Topic Wiki

DDMS: http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/108754

Response to naysayers:
Some of you are unbelievable. All the post does is encourage you to be careful with your personal information, to think hard about the type of schemes you are getting yourself into and to excersize caution and discretion with credit/financial decisions. So the only people whose parnassah is getting screwed by this are those that are relying on duping others to some extent.

/Thread

-------------------------------------------------------------

Who will put money for an ad?

Yakov116
Drago - $20
Ad120- $10
cubicles $20
Mendy from Lakewood $20
Travel-ing $20
Yochiek93- get an ad running and I'll give to that
« Last edited by yochiek93 on March 08, 2017, 11:32:24 AM »

Author Topic: PSA - Stay Away From The Card Signup Farms Who Offer $5000 In One Month  (Read 301097 times)

Online aygart

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 17395
  • Total likes: 14333
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 14
    • View Profile
    • Lower Watt Energy Brokers
  • Programs: www.lowerwatt.com
Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #1220 on: December 11, 2016, 12:49:45 AM »
True, but there are reliable people out there, i recently did it with a guy (not this one) and he did pay me full amount
I am sure that this can be said about all of them. When all goes perfectly smoothly and ask cards get approved etc. They will all pay. The issue is that when there are bumps the one they are applying for can have serious problems and not get paid not get help from the ones who need them up. Even when it goes smoothly there can be future repercussions.
Feelings don't care about your facts

Offline Drago

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 8388
  • Total likes: 74
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 18
    • View Profile
Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #1221 on: December 11, 2016, 07:58:42 AM »
Full page ad in this week's Ami.
That's a great public service they're doing, giving CC advice.
Do they charge some kind of flat fee?

Offline Sport

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Dec 2013
  • Posts: 2332
  • Total likes: 103
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
    • View Profile
Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #1222 on: December 11, 2016, 09:55:53 AM »
That's a great public service they're doing, giving CC advice.
Do they charge some kind of flat fee?
As long as they advise with their client's best interest in mind.

Offline Moshe123

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Sep 2012
  • Posts: 5935
  • Total likes: 911
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: Spring Valley
  • Programs: Lost
Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #1223 on: December 11, 2016, 10:16:38 AM »
Heh. I know the guy running this. This isn't something hidden. It's a front office.

One of the very few guys to make it extremely successful off of the miles business other than Dan.

Offline Moshe123

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Sep 2012
  • Posts: 5935
  • Total likes: 911
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: Spring Valley
  • Programs: Lost
Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #1224 on: December 11, 2016, 10:16:58 AM »
As long as they advise with their client's best interest in mind.

Like every salesperson....

Offline Moshe123

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Sep 2012
  • Posts: 5935
  • Total likes: 911
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: Spring Valley
  • Programs: Lost
Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #1225 on: December 11, 2016, 10:18:09 AM »
If he's not totally screwing people over that would make him different, that doesn't mean I'm condoning it but it would be different.

This guy has a big business with over a dozen employees. Not some shady stuff.

Offline Emkay

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Dec 2012
  • Posts: 14295
  • Total likes: 376
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 35
    • View Profile
  • Location: Where I ought to be
Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #1226 on: December 11, 2016, 10:19:34 AM »
This guy has a big business with over a dozen employees. Not some shady stuff.
Big doesn't mean not shady. And having an address makes no difference.

Offline Moshe123

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Sep 2012
  • Posts: 5935
  • Total likes: 911
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: Spring Valley
  • Programs: Lost
Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #1227 on: December 11, 2016, 10:22:06 AM »
Big doesn't mean not shady. And having an address makes no difference.

It's a travel agency based on the points business. I have never heard of anybody screwed over by him. I've done numerous transactions with prompt payment. As in same day. Not some fly-by-night.

Offline Emkay

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Dec 2012
  • Posts: 14295
  • Total likes: 376
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 35
    • View Profile
  • Location: Where I ought to be
Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #1228 on: December 11, 2016, 10:23:37 AM »
It's a travel agency based on the points business. I have never heard of anybody screwed over by him. I've done numerous transactions with prompt payment. As in same day. Not some fly-by-night.
They question isn't how they handle the day to day business. Its what happens when the occasional deal goes south.

Offline Sport

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Dec 2013
  • Posts: 2332
  • Total likes: 103
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
    • View Profile
Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #1229 on: December 11, 2016, 10:23:59 AM »
Like every salesperson....
Depends what you're advertising for sale.

Offline Moshe123

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Sep 2012
  • Posts: 5935
  • Total likes: 911
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: Spring Valley
  • Programs: Lost
Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #1230 on: December 11, 2016, 10:26:54 AM »
They question isn't how they handle the day to day business. Its what happens when the occasional deal goes south.

He's been around for a good few years and I've yet to hear a stifle bad word.

Offline Dan

  • Administrator
  • Dansdeals Lifetime 50K Diamond Elite
  • **********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 67598
  • Total likes: 16909
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 16442
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: CLE
  • Programs: UA GS, AA EXP, DL Dirt, Hyatt Glob, Fairmont Lifetime Plat, DD Diamond, Blocked By @NeriaKraus
Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #1231 on: December 11, 2016, 10:34:53 AM »
Heh. I know the guy running this. This isn't something hidden. It's a front office.

One of the very few guys to make it extremely successful off of the miles business other than Dan.
You're saying it's one guy doing all of these farms? What makes you say that?

Besides, seems like plenty of mileage brokers/travel agents have built nice businesses.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

Offline thaber

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 3784
  • Total likes: 465
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 4
    • View Profile
Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #1232 on: December 11, 2016, 10:36:42 AM »
It's a travel agency based on the points business. I have never heard of anybody screwed over by him. I've done numerous transactions with prompt payment. As in same day. Not some fly-by-night.
One second - is this guy selling tickets booked with miles? Or is he signing up for credit cards on your behalf and giving you a little cash? This thread is about the latter.
Big and established is worthless.  Guy across the hall from my office had 60 employees in 2012 and had been open for a few years,  selling refis to little old ladies.  Apparently he wasn't actually refinancing,  and a team from Washington closed him down in under 5 minutes after they walked in the door.  Just like in the movies.

Offline Dan

  • Administrator
  • Dansdeals Lifetime 50K Diamond Elite
  • **********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 67598
  • Total likes: 16909
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 16442
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: CLE
  • Programs: UA GS, AA EXP, DL Dirt, Hyatt Glob, Fairmont Lifetime Plat, DD Diamond, Blocked By @NeriaKraus
Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #1233 on: December 11, 2016, 10:38:02 AM »
One second - is this guy selling tickets booked with miles? Or is he signing up for credit cards on your behalf and giving you a little cash? This thread is about the latter.
Makes sense to be on both sides of the transaction.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

Offline Moshe123

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Sep 2012
  • Posts: 5935
  • Total likes: 911
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: Spring Valley
  • Programs: Lost
Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #1234 on: December 11, 2016, 10:44:57 AM »
You're saying it's one guy doing all of these farms? What makes you say that?

Besides, seems like plenty of mileage brokers/travel agents have built nice businesses.

I never said that. This guy never had any of the farms AFAIK.

Offline Moshe123

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Sep 2012
  • Posts: 5935
  • Total likes: 911
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: Spring Valley
  • Programs: Lost
Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #1235 on: December 11, 2016, 10:47:02 AM »
I don't think I ever vouched for someone. I can vouch for him.

You know many brokers who come back to you if an account goes bad. Right? As far as I can remember, he always took the loss.

Offline Dan

  • Administrator
  • Dansdeals Lifetime 50K Diamond Elite
  • **********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 67598
  • Total likes: 16909
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 16442
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: CLE
  • Programs: UA GS, AA EXP, DL Dirt, Hyatt Glob, Fairmont Lifetime Plat, DD Diamond, Blocked By @NeriaKraus
Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #1236 on: December 11, 2016, 10:48:03 AM »
I never said that. This guy never had any of the farms AFAIK.
Then why did you post in this thread??
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

Offline Emkay

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Dec 2012
  • Posts: 14295
  • Total likes: 376
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 35
    • View Profile
  • Location: Where I ought to be
Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #1237 on: December 11, 2016, 10:48:06 AM »
I never said that. This guy never had any of the farms AFAIK.
Then your not talking about what everyone else is.

Offline Moshe123

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Sep 2012
  • Posts: 5935
  • Total likes: 911
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: Spring Valley
  • Programs: Lost
Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #1238 on: December 11, 2016, 10:50:05 AM »
Then why did you post in this thread??

Because this ad makes it seem like he's looking to go into something similar. I have never asked him yet though.

What I was saying is that this guy has never screwed someone over and don't assume bad intentions or bad outcomes.

Offline yakov116

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: May 2014
  • Posts: 1556
  • Total likes: 205
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #1239 on: December 11, 2016, 10:58:00 AM »
Because this ad makes it seem like he's looking to go into something similar. I have never asked him yet though.

What I was saying is that this guy has never screwed someone over and don't assume bad intentions or bad outcomes.
Not mixing in but you can get into hot water sticking up for anyone in this thread
Money talks...mine says goodbye!