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Response to naysayers:
Some of you are unbelievable. All the post does is encourage you to be careful with your personal information, to think hard about the type of schemes you are getting yourself into and to excersize caution and discretion with credit/financial decisions. So the only people whose parnassah is getting screwed by this are those that are relying on duping others to some extent.

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Who will put money for an ad?

Yakov116
Drago - $20
Ad120- $10
cubicles $20
Mendy from Lakewood $20
Travel-ing $20
Yochiek93- get an ad running and I'll give to that
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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #220 on: September 15, 2014, 12:38:48 AM »
I understand what may be illegal.
Then I was trying to figure out what the sales pitch of the ad would be.
Being that it's done here on a small scale, it'll be hard to tell people off just to save the tricks for yourself.
It may be good enough just to write that they are dishonest with the amount they pay you.
Also that they're not careful with how they do it, so are leaving you locked out of Amex cards in the future.
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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #221 on: September 15, 2014, 12:41:22 AM »
Also that they're not careful with how they do it, so are leaving you locked out of Amex cards in the future.
+1
I think leaving it at a personal level like how they won't be able to get Amex in the future, or how they don't always give the money may be enough.
Once law or halacha mixes in it'll turn into something like the kol koreh where everyone has a different interpretation of what is really happening and why it may/may not be legal.

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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #222 on: September 15, 2014, 01:20:23 AM »
Last week. I have no clue what he is spending and what he is doing with all my info :-( i regret  going to him! But too late :(

This may be a noob comment but if you ever run into problems like this you can always call the credit bureaus and tell them to freeze your credit. I believe it's either free to do or it costs like $10. Anytime in the future when you want to access credit you can call to have it unfrozen, apply for the card/loan/etc and then call and have it refrozen. Also, due to the attacks on Target and Home Depot they have made credit monitoring tools available for free for the first year for anyone who signs up (and everyone should sign up).
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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #223 on: September 15, 2014, 01:26:04 AM »
I wouldn't say they are DDFers but I'm sure they're reading....
Im pretty sure they are active here

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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #224 on: September 15, 2014, 02:06:29 AM »
I have a few more noobish comments.

1) It shouldn't be terribly hard to get the identity of who's running the ads. All you would need is some strongly written letters from some of the gedolim and the papers should provide it easily.

2) This can end badly for those who are still involved in the scam. If everything comes crashing down who says these guys don't just run off with millions of dollars in available credit from their "clients". I'm sure everyone here knows how easy it is to liquidate a credit card into cash.

3) These scams have also hit me close to home. My sister almost fell victim to one of these scams because her husband had a "friend" who did this stuff and promised all kinds of neat vacations. Luckily he got snagged by chase on his first application though she did have to work out a fraud inquiry.

4) One last thought is maybe Dan could host a Webinar or something like that to quickly and succinctly address these issues and the perils involved.

Like I said just some rambling noobish comments. I really hope this ends quickly and quietly and I for one would gladly give something toward ads or a concentrated effort to stop this schtick and help educate everyone against the risks these games have.
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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #225 on: September 15, 2014, 07:39:30 AM »
This may be a noob comment but if you ever run into problems like this you can always call the credit bureaus and tell them to freeze your credit. I believe it's either free to do or it costs like $10. Anytime in the future when you want to access credit you can call to have it unfrozen, apply for the card/loan/etc and then call and have it refrozen. Also, due to the attacks on Target and Home Depot they have made credit monitoring tools available for free for the first year for anyone who signs up (and everyone should sign up).
"And everyone should sign up"
I believe only people that shopped there are eligible.

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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #226 on: September 15, 2014, 08:01:50 AM »
I personaly belive that a letter from a lawyer to the editor can do a lot more then one ad in a magazine.
Why dont we raise money to pay a ddf lawyer to send a letter to the editors of the magazines that run the ads?

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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #227 on: September 15, 2014, 08:10:00 AM »
Im pretty sure they are active here
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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #228 on: September 15, 2014, 08:10:35 AM »
I personaly belive that a letter from a lawyer to the editor can do a lot more then one ad in a magazine.
Why dont we raise money to pay a ddf lawyer to send a letter to the editors of the magazines that run the ads?
What would that letter say ?

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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #229 on: September 15, 2014, 08:43:30 AM »
Im pretty sure they are active here
Great, so when the FBI rounds them up we can start a fund for them.
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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #230 on: September 15, 2014, 09:05:27 AM »
Great, so when the FBI rounds them up we can start a fund for them.
So now we have a fund going to stop them and once they're stopped we'll start a fund to defend them? :P

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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #231 on: September 15, 2014, 09:22:55 AM »
Maybe we can post an add on dansdeals I know the guy who owns it maybe he can give a good deal!  :P
Money talks...mine says goodbye!

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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #232 on: September 15, 2014, 09:24:11 AM »
Maybe we can post an add on dansdeals I know the guy who owns it maybe he can give a good deal!  :P
Dan already posted about these guys

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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #233 on: September 15, 2014, 09:36:10 AM »
I think there is one thing we are all forgetting. I am willing to bet they have many satisfied customers. The is the best advertising you can have.
I just found a new supply of forks!

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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #234 on: September 15, 2014, 09:36:13 AM »
Dan already posted about these guys
I think it needs to be done in greater detail

Money talks...mine says goodbye!

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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #235 on: September 15, 2014, 09:37:01 AM »
I think there is one thing we are all forgetting. I am willing to bet they have many satisfied customers. The is the best advertising you can have.
So that doesn't mean they won't get messed up later.

Money talks...mine says goodbye!

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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #236 on: September 15, 2014, 09:39:32 AM »
I am willing to bet they have many satisfied customers.
Even says so in the ad.

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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #237 on: September 15, 2014, 09:40:51 AM »
So that doesn't mean they won't get messed up later.
My point being you can have a ton of ads saying how bad this is. One person saying they received the 5k and most will disregard the ads because they see dollar signs. Why do you think pyramid schemes are so successful.
I just found a new supply of forks!

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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #238 on: September 15, 2014, 09:54:10 AM »
My point being you can have a ton of ads saying how bad this is. One person saying they received the 5k and most will disregard the ads because they see dollar signs. Why do you think pyramid schemes are so successful.
Ok.
But the problem is that there is NO awareness at all!

Money talks...mine says goodbye!

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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #239 on: September 15, 2014, 10:00:57 AM »
Ok.
But the problem is that there is NO awareness at all!
If everyone thinks ads will work then start a fund. I will kick in.
I just found a new supply of forks!