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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #400 on: September 16, 2014, 03:25:30 PM »
I believe it has a lot to do with society and the desire to get something for nothing. Everyone believes nowadays they can get rich quick without doing any work for it. It permeates more than we realize

Frum society breeds naive people... load up your kids with stories of yiddin getting riches showered from heaven, avoid instilling the fundamentals of hard work, honesty, thrift and mazal... you wind up with this, drug dealers and so on and so forth

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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #401 on: September 16, 2014, 03:27:43 PM »
Frum society breeds naive people... load up your kids with stories of yiddin getting riches showered from heaven, avoid instilling the fundamentals of hard work, honesty, thrift and mazal... you wind up with this, drug dealers and so on and so forth
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Because no one else has fairy tales and angles and treasures and elves giving out presents...

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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #402 on: September 16, 2014, 03:28:21 PM »
Can't the same thing be said about DDFers? One opens 2 CC's and another opens 10+. One does 1k of MS and another does 100k+. What scale are we all using?
Seems that alot of the concern is making sure we can continue to do what we do and that they don't harm us... How do we determine who is right and who is wrong? By what standards?

I have been following this discussion and I feel like there is no easy answer,  but it is hard to condemn others for doing what some of us on DDF do ourselves....

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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #403 on: September 16, 2014, 03:33:25 PM »
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Because no one else has fairy tales and angles and treasures and elves giving out presents...

There are gold diggers, fruadsters and scammers everywhere. But the difference is this, in secular society often with an emphasis of accomplishment on wealth or status.. and the general push to get a college degree etc

But the frum world eschews a higher calling.. no we dont care about $ they say.. as the guy scams people so he can buy 100k gasos with silver batim covers in real mink talis bag

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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #404 on: September 16, 2014, 03:36:13 PM »
There are gold diggers, fruadsters and scammers everywhere. But the difference is this, in secular society often with an emphasis of accomplishment on wealth or status.. and the general push to get a college degree etc

But the frum world eschews a higher calling.. no we dont care about $ they say.. as the guy scams people so he can buy 100k gasos with silver batim covers in real mink talis bag
you can't pick one guy who may "act"  frum, and then say that all frum people are like that.
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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #405 on: September 16, 2014, 03:36:52 PM »
Frum society breeds naive people... load up your kids with stories of yiddin getting riches showered from heaven, avoid instilling the fundamentals of hard work, honesty, thrift and mazal... you wind up with this, drug dealers and so on and so forth
Alternatively: send them to public schools and 4 year colleges for a real education, load them up on drugs, zenus ed, TV and violent video games and you end up with sexual degenerates, alcoholics and so on and so forth.

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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #406 on: September 16, 2014, 03:42:40 PM »
you can't pick one guy who may "act"  frum, and then say that all frum people are like that.

Im only pointing out what possibly ails frum society.


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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #407 on: September 16, 2014, 03:43:50 PM »
Alternatively: send them to public schools and 4 year colleges for a real education, load them up on drugs, zenus ed, TV and violent video games and you end up with sexual degenerates, alcoholics and so on and so forth.

Except we are supposed to be better than them... and the frum world is full of the above btw

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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #408 on: September 16, 2014, 03:46:24 PM »
Alternatively: send them to public schools and 4 year colleges for a real education, load them up on drugs, zenus ed, TV and violent video games and you end up with sexual degenerates, alcoholics and so on and so forth.
Perhaps there is room for a middle ground?
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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #409 on: September 16, 2014, 03:50:06 PM »
Except we are supposed to be better than them... and the frum world is full of the above btw
If only things were always the way they were supposed to be... No one was ever guaranteed that being Frum would take away his Yetzer Harah...

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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #410 on: September 16, 2014, 03:53:17 PM »
Chevron was missed...

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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #411 on: September 16, 2014, 03:54:30 PM »
Perhaps there is room for a middle ground?

Absolutely, emphasis on honest work..

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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #412 on: September 16, 2014, 03:55:14 PM »
Alternatively: send them to public schools and 4 year colleges for a real education, load them up on drugs, zenus ed, TV and violent video games and you end up with sexual degenerates, alcoholics and so on and so forth.

Yes because that's exactly what happens to every one who goes to public school and college. You see the only way in this world to not be a degenerate is to go to the cheder. I guess I have no hope.
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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #413 on: September 16, 2014, 03:55:41 PM »
If only things were always the way they were supposed to be... No one was ever guaranteed that being Frum would take away his Yetzer Harah...

If you told me you were dishonest so you can eat fancy food etc I understand it.. but what I dont get is where people are dishonest and buy a 500$ esrog

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« Reply #414 on: September 16, 2014, 03:57:57 PM »
If you told me you were dishonest so you can eat fancy food etc I understand it.. but what I dont get is where people are dishonest and buy a 500$ esrog
And if someone told you that you would believe them? ???

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« Reply #415 on: September 16, 2014, 03:58:03 PM »
If you told me you were dishonest so you can eat fancy food etc I understand it.. but what I dont get is where people are dishonest and buy a 500$ esrog
What's the difference....

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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #416 on: September 16, 2014, 03:59:57 PM »
Yes because that's exactly what happens to every one who goes to public school and college. You see the only way in this world to not be a degenerate is to go to the cheder. I guess I have no hope.
Well chevron would have us believe that everyone who goes to Cheder and Yeshivah is:
...this [scammers], drug dealers and so on and so forth

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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #417 on: September 16, 2014, 04:01:29 PM »
Can we start a new thread called: "Do you hate frum people"? move the last few pages to there and keep this thread somewhat on topic?

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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #418 on: September 16, 2014, 04:02:06 PM »
What's the difference....

I suppose none really, perhaps some have a yetzer hara that tells them to be dishonest bein adam lechaveiro so he can pimp out his bein adam lemakom... thats the story (or parable) guy steals a kidush cup or something and rabbi tells him for teshuva to i dont remember maybe light candles or something.. so his friend asks him where is he getting the money for the tikun.. so he says same way i got the kidush cup

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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #419 on: September 16, 2014, 04:02:14 PM »
If you told me you were dishonest so you can eat fancy food etc I understand it.. but what I dont get is where people are dishonest and buy a 500$ esrog
there you go again.
Don't judge everyone by what one person does.
One person, ten people, a hundred people. Same rule applies.
We don't all steal to buy expensive esrogim.

If I would say I knew a couple people that brag about such a thing I'd be a lier. Maybe stop associating with so many of these people.

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