PSA - Stay Away From The Card Signup Farms Who Offer $5000 In One Month

[aygart]

I think the point of many here is that there are two potential issues. That they may be messing people up and their methods. The correct approach to deal with it depends upon which issue, or both, you are trying to deal with. If you are dealing with people getting messed up then you are almost certainly best off using letters to the editor over placing ads. The first thing someone who sees an ad will ask is "what is the motive of the one who placed the ad". With a letter you do not have this question. The most obvious answer that people will give to the motive is that he is afraid the loophole will get closed. In that case the one who placed the ad may be worse than the one doing it. He is then like the ganiv who snitches on a different one who is getting the better loot since there is none left for him.
If the issue is his methods in and of themselves then for someone who uses the same methods to place an ad is certainly being hypocritical. It would mean that your issue is either again that he is messing it up for the others who use the same on a smaller scale or just that you feel you can do it as long as you don't get caught.
There are some here who do not wish to be so hypocritical and are only willing to participate if there is a clear issue of people being messed up in ways that they did not understand and would not have taken that risk. If the person understood and was ready to take the risk then there is no problem.
If the issue is that he is signing up for someone else with permission then you are getting into an area which may be illegal but not unethical and may also not warrant ads. They also will not be too effective when the issue is something that people feel is not wrong.

[yakov116]

I think the point of many here is that there are two potential issues. That they may be messing people up and their methods. The correct approach to deal with it depends upon which issue, or both, you are trying to deal with. If you are dealing with people getting messed up then you are almost certainly best off using letters to the editor over placing ads. The first thing someone who sees an ad will ask is "what is the motive of the one who placed the ad". With a letter you do not have this question. The most obvious answer that people will give to the motive is that he is afraid the loophole will get closed. In that case the one who placed the ad may be worse than the one doing it. He is then like the ganiv who snitches on a different one who is getting the better loot since there is none left for him.
If the issue is his methods in and of themselves then for someone who uses the same methods to place an ad is certainly being hypocritical. It would mean that your issue is either again that he is messing it up for the others who use the same on a smaller scale or just that you feel you can do it as long as you don't get caught.
There are some here who do not wish to be so hypocritical and are only willing to participate if there is a clear issue of people being messed up in ways that they did not understand and would not have taken that risk. If the person understood and was ready to take the risk then there is no problem.
If the issue is that he is signing up for someone else with permission then you are getting into an area which may be illegal but not unethical and may also not warrant ads. They also will not be too effective when the issue is something that people feel is not wrong.

Can you please rewrite so I can read it?
Just because you write a lot of words doesn't mean we will get your point! In fact its the opposite.

[lunatic]

Can you please rewrite so I can read it?
Just because you write a lot of words doesn't mean we will get your point! In fact its the opposite.

It's a complicated issue

[aygart]

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=45061.msg919635#msg919635

Now let's move on!

We should put that in the ad too?

Ok we fought about it yesterday LET'S MOVE ON.

+1 Very well said
Can we move on!!!!!!!!
What are we going to about can we stop yapping and do something?

What exactly is your problem and what exactly do you want to do??

[Achas Veachas]

Can you please rewrite so I can read it?
Just because you write a lot of words doesn't mean we will get your point! In fact its the opposite.

     I think the point of many here is that there are two potential issues. That they may be messing people up and their methods. The correct approach to deal with it depends upon which issue, or both, you are trying to deal with. If you are dealing with people getting messed up then you are almost certainly best off using letters to the editor over placing ads. The first thing someone who sees an ad will ask is "what is the motive of the one who placed the ad". With a letter you do not have this question. The most obvious answer that people will give to the motive is that he is afraid the loophole will get closed. In that case the one who placed the ad may be worse than the one doing it. He is then like the ganiv who snitches on a different one who is getting the better loot since there is none left for him.

     If the issue is his methods in and of themselves then for someone who uses the same methods to place an ad is certainly being hypocritical. It would mean that your issue is either again that he is messing it up for the others who use the same on a smaller scale or just that you feel you can do it as long as you don't get caught.

     There are some here who do not wish to be so hypocritical and are only willing to participate if there is a clear issue of people being messed up in ways that they did not understand and would not have taken that risk. If the person understood and was ready to take the risk then there is no problem.

     If the issue is that he is signing up for someone else with permission then you are getting into an area which may be illegal but not unethical and may also not warrant ads. They also will not be too effective when the issue is something that people feel is not wrong.

[aygart]

lol

[yakov116]

What exactly is your problem and what exactly do you want to do??

Problem: These guys
What I want to do: Put out an ad

[yakov116]

lol

What's so funny, when you write in one long paragraph its very hard to read.

[HolyNyc]

Problem: These guys
What I want to do: Put out an ad

in which newspaper / how big of an ad / what will be the primary message ?
 

[aygart]

Problem: These guys
What I want to do: Put out an ad

Since you apparently have an issue with statements more than a sentence long....

What is you problem with these guys?

What do you want the ad to say?

[aygart]

What's so funny, when you write in one long paragraph its very hard to read.

They were separate paragraphs just not double spaced.

[HolyNyc]

By the way if someone is doing this scam and is not from Lakewood is it ok ?   
"Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month"

[Twin]

By the way if someone is doing this scam and is not from Lakewood is it ok ?   
"Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month"

There is only one guy offering this much money for your ss# and he is located out of lkwd he advertises everywhere but office is in lkwd

[yakov116]

What is you problem with these guys?

The people that gave their info want the spending to be legitimate not shady spending.

What do you want the ad to say?

I think we should put 1 or 2 testimonials and put all the risks

The title should be "Its not a scam..but your getting scammed"

Ok VacationLover can you make an ad with the title that I gave and put in you testimonial.
Put on it the risks:
1 Amex closing all your accounts
2 Having to answer to amex why there are Refundable Chages on the account
3 Having your personal info by some random person

[HolyNyc]

And if someone offers you less for your ssn you should give it narrowing it down to one doesn't make sense IMO

There is only one guy offering this much money for your ss# and he is located out of lkwd he advertises everywhere but office is in lkwd

[yuneeq]

The pickpocket shouldn't call the purse snatcher a thief

What's that gotta do with what I wrote?

[aygart]

Regarding scale: even if you are of the opinion that the average ddf'er is also stealing, scale still matters a lot. If someone steals $5, it's likely that no one will hear about it and no one will get hurt badly...Steal $1mm and everyone knows about it; think about the major Chillul Hashem the guy has caused. Think about the business or the person that got hurt badly, maybe altering his life. Can one act of theft be worse than another? DEFINITELY!

You are basically saying that really they are both wrong just one is worse because of the larger scale. For those doing it on a smaller scale to place ads is the pickpocket calling the bank robber a theif.

[aygart]

I think the point of many here is that there are two potential issues. That they may be messing people up and their methods. The correct approach to deal with it depends upon which issue, or both, you are trying to deal with. If you are dealing with people getting messed up then you are almost certainly best off using letters to the editor over placing ads. The first thing someone who sees an ad will ask is "what is the motive of the one who placed the ad". With a letter you do not have this question. The most obvious answer that people will give to the motive is that he is afraid the loophole will get closed. In that case the one who placed the ad may be worse than the one doing it. He is then like the ganiv who snitches on a different one who is getting the better loot since there is none left for him........

There are some here who do not wish to be so hypocritical and are only willing to participate if there is a clear issue of people being messed up in ways that they did not understand and would not have taken that risk. If the person understood and was ready to take the risk then there is no problem....

[clear thinker]

OK OK OK ENOUGH with the back & forth back & forth whoever wants to debate the issue go to a new thread & whoever wants to stick "WE" wanna do something about it!

Seriously this is just never ending, taking words out of context putting it back in & finding words between the paragraphs, I think by now each & every argument has been pur out already & if someone still has an argument just search it you'll find the appropriate answer to that upthread & if you have what to answer back that too is covered already!
SO MOVE ON!

[TimT]

You really can't trust anyone with your personal info.
http://www.vosizneias.com/179184/2014/09/17/new-york-5-ny-bank-tellers-charged-with-identity-theft/