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$75 fee:

-21+ days prior to departure is based on the departing city time zone, not the booking city time zone.

EDIT: I managed to call in and have them waive the fee when it was within 21 days in departing city time zone but not by booking city time zone

UPDATE: AA has removed all close-in fees

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Re: AA Award Flights
« Reply #1620 on: January 11, 2016, 12:29:35 PM »
Source?
Saw it a while ago, so I'll need to find it. May have changed, but I know I saw it after the stopped allowing 24h+ stops.

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Re: AA Award Flights
« Reply #1621 on: January 11, 2016, 01:35:22 PM »
Years ago. The only time a greater than 24 hour layover is legal is when it's connecting to the next available flight.
...by next available flight you mean next flight I assume. If there isn't availability for the next two days it still won't work.

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Re: AA Award Flights
« Reply #1622 on: January 11, 2016, 01:37:07 PM »
...by next available flight you mean next flight I assume. If there isn't availability for the next two days it still won't work.
Right, but I still can't find the source. It's irrelevant 99% of the time anyway.

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Re: AA Award Flights
« Reply #1623 on: January 11, 2016, 09:04:28 PM »
AA NYC-GIG in J (Tam) I was quoted 50k no availability yet for GIG-IGU for that date.

If I fly within 24h can It be one award for 50k ?

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Re: AA Award Flights
« Reply #1624 on: January 11, 2016, 09:07:24 PM »
Yes, if you book NYC - IGU on the same PNR

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Re: AA Award Flights
« Reply #1625 on: January 11, 2016, 09:21:03 PM »
Yes, if you book NYC - IGU on the same PNR

Thanks

I see GIG-IGU fully open last week in Feb but nothing first week in March, I hope it opens up

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Re: AA Award Flights
« Reply #1626 on: January 11, 2016, 09:40:59 PM »
Thanks

I see GIG-IGU fully open last week in Feb but nothing first week in March, I hope it opens up
Best of luck.

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Re: AA Award Flights
« Reply #1627 on: January 12, 2016, 03:54:56 AM »
Looking for advice based on yesterdays DDMS:

1) I booked HKT-JFK x2 on random dates for after my planned travel date (post 3/22).
2) My goal is to pull those reservations forward (earlier) as the actual travel date gets closer (post 3/22).
3) My hope is also to route them much more conveniently but still keeping the O&D obviously.

-I understand that the "cancel-without-redeposit" path makes it easier to put 2 pax on 1 PNR, but I already booked on separate PNRs.
-I understand that my risk is whether route-changing (but keeping O&D) will be allowed. Though I cant imagine that if route changing isn't allowed (without paying new award prices) that re-booking from a route that one canceled would be allowed.
-If I'm correct, the "book-into-the-future" path saves the $75 <21 days booking fee.

Basically:
Is Dan's "cancel-without-redeposit" path better? and why?

Thanx
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Re: AA Award Flights
« Reply #1628 on: January 12, 2016, 08:11:24 AM »

Looking for advice based on yesterdays DDMS:

1) I booked HKT-JFK x2 on random dates for after my planned travel date (post 3/22).
2) My goal is to pull those reservations forward (earlier) as the actual travel date gets closer (post 3/22).
3) My hope is also to route them much more conveniently but still keeping the O&D obviously.

-I understand that the "cancel-without-redeposit" path makes it easier to put 2 pax on 1 PNR, but I already booked on separate PNRs.
-I understand that my risk is whether route-changing (but keeping O&D) will be allowed. Though I cant imagine that if route changing isn't allowed (without paying new award prices) that re-booking from a route that one canceled would be allowed.
-If I'm correct, the "book-into-the-future" path saves the $75 <21 days booking fee.

Basically:
Is Dan's "cancel-without-redeposit" path better? and why?

Thanx

It's not about better. He said it is not confirmed that it'll work vs date changes which should definitely work as that shouldn't involve a reprice. His point is that it's very difficult to find availability far out but much easier to find availability close in. That is why he says- while unconfirmed- to book today and cancel today and potentially get to book your award later on for just $75.
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Re: AA Award Flights
« Reply #1629 on: January 12, 2016, 08:32:27 AM »
Why wouldnt one book ANY F1 availability, even on separate flights, as far out as you can find and then cancel and rebook after deval? No need to find F2+ just piece it together when it opens up. i.e. You find F1 on JFK-HKG on 2 different flights this week. Book, cancel and then rebook after deval when F2 opens on desired flight.

Is that the whole point of DDMS post?
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Re: AA Award Flights
« Reply #1630 on: January 12, 2016, 08:33:44 AM »
It's not about better. He said it is not confirmed that it'll work vs date changes which should definitely work as that shouldn't involve a reprice. His point is that it's very difficult to find availability far out but much easier to find availability close in. That is why he says- while unconfirmed- to book today and cancel today and potentially get to book your award later on for just $75.
Ok. So then that's not relevant to someone who can find one leg in their preferred class on any random date. Correct?

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Re: AA Award Flights
« Reply #1631 on: January 12, 2016, 08:36:49 AM »
Why wouldnt one book ANY F1 availability, even on separate flights, as far out as you can find and then cancel and rebook after deval? No need to find F2+ just piece it together when it opens up. i.e. You find F1 on JFK-HKG on 2 different flights this week. Book, cancel and then rebook after deval when F2 opens on desired flight.

Is that the whole point of DDMS post?

And if nothing works out, you pay $150x2 instead of $150+$25

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Re: AA Award Flights
« Reply #1632 on: January 12, 2016, 08:38:08 AM »
Ok. So then that's not relevant to someone who can find one leg in their preferred class on any random date. Correct?

Being further out then your travel date.
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Re: AA Award Flights
« Reply #1633 on: January 12, 2016, 08:45:11 AM »
Why wouldnt one book ANY F1 availability, even on separate flights, as far out as you can find and then cancel and rebook after deval? No need to find F2+ just piece it together when it opens up. i.e. You find F1 on JFK-HKG on 2 different flights this week. Book, cancel and then rebook after deval when F2 opens on desired flight.

Is that the whole point of DDMS post?
Lower redeposit fees and less time spent dealing with changes when you're on the same PNR.
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Re: AA Award Flights
« Reply #1634 on: January 12, 2016, 09:11:42 AM »
Lower redeposit fees and less time spent dealing with changes when you're on the same PNR.
Understood. But worst case scenario to lock in current rates separate PNRs will cost $125 more per redeposit vs 32.5k more miles on JFK-HKG routing. Worth the risk.
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Re: AA Award Flights
« Reply #1635 on: January 13, 2016, 01:33:55 PM »
I'm trying to change an award booking to an earlier date but they charging me the $75 for the 21 day window , will HUCA help or there's no way around this anymore ?

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Re: AA Award Flights
« Reply #1636 on: January 13, 2016, 01:34:58 PM »
I'm trying to change an award booking to an earlier date but they charging me the $75 for the 21 day window , will HUCA help or there's no way around this anymore ?
No way around this anymore, unless you have status and are not charged a close in fee.

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Re: AA Award Flights
« Reply #1637 on: January 13, 2016, 01:36:19 PM »
I'm trying to change an award booking to an earlier date but they charging me the $75 for the 21 day window , will HUCA help or there's no way around this anymore ?

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Re: AA Award Flights
« Reply #1638 on: January 13, 2016, 01:50:08 PM »
I'm trying to change an award booking to an earlier date but they charging me the $75 for the 21 day window , will HUCA help or there's no way around this anymore ?

No way around this anymore, unless you have status and are not charged a close in fee.

Get status.
If the ticket was booked more than 21 days ago then this doesn't apply. Correct?

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Re: AA Award Flights
« Reply #1639 on: January 13, 2016, 01:51:20 PM »
Correct. It's not close in.