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South Florida Kosher Restaurant and Attraction Map (HT: Yaalili).

DD Trip Notes:
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/16322 (2011)
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/26692 (2012)
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/49206 (2014)
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/61082 (2015)
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/72957 (2015)
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/trip-notes/trip-notes-miami-foodies-delight-finally-cracking-sunpass-tolls (2021)
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/trip-notes/trip-notes-miami-2023-great-food-awesome-cholov-yisroel-chocolate-workshop-weekend-fun/ (2023)

Trip Reports:
@Yehuda's 1st trip to Miami https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=63986.0
@Yehuda Miami Weekend Getaway at SRBH https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=100169.0
@Alexsei Surfside 2018 https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=452.msg1896122#msg1896122
@Alexsei Surfside/Bay Harbor 2019 https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=452.msg2055841#msg2055841
@jj1000 ideal foodie oriented day in Miami based on what I've had/done so far https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=452.msg1387809;topicseen#msg1387809
@BOOKY trip report for Miami https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=452.msg1062268;topicseen#msg1062268
@jack Short trip report https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=452.msg745120;topicseen#msg745120
@Chachem Balaileh South Florida mini trip report https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=452.msg726747;topicseen#msg726747
@dealfinder85 somewhat of a TR https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=452.msg1059208#msg1059208
@JayR 3 Days In Florida https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=50450.msg1088383#msg1088383
@AJK Labor Day Hop https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=55342.0
@twentie4hrs Miami Beach for a Relaxing 4 days (Including Shabbos) https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=59239.0
@srulky Mini TR for quick 3 day/2 night Jaunt down to Ft. Lauderdale/Miami https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=452.msg1354473#msg1354473
@Adam101 Chanukka '15 trip MIA & BNA https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=59271.0
@mgoldhammer18 A different kind of trip to Miami beach https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=61518.0
@shnoz Quick TR from N Miami https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=452.msg790875;topicseen#msg790875
@Amusch low-key low-cost trip https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=452.msg1413855;topicseen#msg1413855
@joe999 4 Days in Miami https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=452.msg1201938#msg1201938
@mochjas Saturday Night @Meat Bar (Surfside) Sunday Night at SOHO https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=452.msg2184097#msg2184097

Hotels

41st and Collins Area
Four Points (Shabbos friendly)
Lexington
Courtyard by Marriott
Holiday Inn
Grand Beach
Best Western Atlantic Beach Resort
Fontainebleau
Eden Roc
Alexander
Confidante (Hyatt)
The Cadillac (Marriott)

Bal Harbour/Surfside/Bay harbor - Walking Distance To Shul
hotels in walking distance to shul:

Surfside:
Residence Inn by Marriott $$ (confirmed shabbos friendly)
Four Seasons $$$ Ocean front hotel
Sun Harbour Boutique Hotel $$
Grand Beach Surfside $$ Ocean front hotel
Grand Beach Surfside West $$

Bal Harbour:
St Regis $$$ Ocean front hotel
Ritz Carlton $$$ Ocean front hotel
Bal Harbour Quarzo $$ inter-coastal front hotel
Sea View $$ Ocean front hotel

Bay Harbour:
Grand beach Bay Harbour $$ inter-coastal front hotel
TRYP by Wyhndam $ CLOSED
The Landon $
The Altair(kosher)

Aventura
Turnberry Isle Resort (Marriott)

Hollywood
Westin Diplomat Resort and Spa (Leaving SPG 10/30/14)


Fort Lauderdale
Westin Fort Lauderdale Beach Resort and Spa
W Fort Lauderdale
Hyatt Place
Hyatt House

Boca
Waldorf Astoria
Boca Hilton Suites


Rent a villa/apartment
horarentals.com
floridakoshervillas.com
northmiamirental.com
northmiamivilla.com
lxure.com
reservekosher.com
flamingokosher.com
motelchai.com


 
Miami Kosher Restaurants 

map with kosher restaurants under Kosher Miami
http://koshermiami.org/
41st and Collins Area
Name                               Style   Price    Kid Friendly?RecommendationsNotes
Miami Beach’s Chocolate Dairy  $$$                                    CLOSED. They opened on Harding
Lenny’s Pizza                      Dairy      $      Yes                                             Multipule Locations   
Asi’s Grill (CLOSED)                      Meat      ??           ??                                           
Carlos & Gabby's                      Meat      $      Yes                                                     
Grill House                      Meat      ??           ??                                           
MONTEFIORE CAFE              Dairy      ??      Yes                                               
17 Restaurant & Sushi Bar        Dairy      $$$                                                  
Tasti Cafe              Dairy Not CY      ??      Yes                                               
Bagel Time              Dairy      $      Yes                                             off 41st street, on Alton Rd. 
Florida Grill                      Meat      ??           ??                                           
Kikar Tel Aviv                      Meat      ??           ??                                          Shabbos Meals



Bal Harbor / Surfside / Bay Harbor
Name                               Style   Price    Kid Friendly?RecommendationsNotesCertificationOnline Ordering
Cine Cite Cafe Dairy  $$YesClick HereCholov Yisroel / Pas YisroelOKUberEats
Foozo Artisan Pizza Dairy  $YesCholov Yisroel / Pas YisroelKMChowNow
Cafe Vert              Dairy   $$Yes Click HereCholov Yisroel / Pas YisroelOKEat24
Rustiko Dairy  $$Yes Click Here   KMChowNow
26 Sushi& Tapas        Dairy   $$$YesClick Here   KMUberEats
Serendipity Yogurt Cafe    Dairy  $YesClick Here    KMUberEats
Yossi's Out Of Home Pizza Dairy  $YesClick HereCholov Yisroel / Pas YisroelTheShulCall/WA (786) 352-1913
Rachel's Baked Goods & Dips Parve  $YesClick HereFree Delivery??Call/Text (786) 447-9809
Harbor Grill                      Meat   $$$No                                   KM??
Harbor Bistro                      Meat   $$$NoClick Here    KMEat24 pickup Only
Kosh                  Meat   $$$NoClick Here    KM??
Chai Wok                  Meat   $$YesClick Here    KMUberEats/GrubHub/ChowNow/Eat24
The Backyard BBQ & Brew                      Meat   $$$Yes Click Here   KMUberEats
The Carrot                      Meat   $$??                                  KMUberEats/GrubHub/Eat24
King David Cuisine Meat ??Yes                                 KM
Meat Bar (Bay Harbor) (New 2019) Meat ????                                 KMUberEats
Street Kitchen (New 2019) Meat ????                                 KM??
Surf-n-sides Meat $$                                 MDKComing Soon
pokado Take out & Delivery Only (New 2021) Meat/sushi $Yes                                 KMAll
So Heavenly Take out & Delivery Only Meat/shabbos $Yes                                 KMAll
Rolling Pin Bakery              Parve   $Yes                                  StarK??
Kosherland+Maven baker Grocery bakery and deli??Yes                               Shabbos Packages+Free Hot PlateKMDeli Has online ordering
Newtime Catering Meat   ????                               Takeout/Shabbos MealsKM
Miami Beach Chocolates Surfside Parve/dairy $$??KM
BON Chocolatier Bay Harbor Parve $$??Click HereVegan Chocolate BoutiqueKMPickUp Only

Shabbos Meals in Bal Harbour/Surfside
  • Kosher Kingdom Takeout (15 drive)
  • KosherLand Takeout (was bought by The Grove and now has a massive shabbos selection as well as prepared foods all week long. no more hot plates as far as I know. jj)
  • Esti Englander - Pickup in NMB (305) 502-4611
  • Fromowitz 347-680-1099
  • Backyard BBQ Friday Night and Shabbas Day Meal Service
  • Kosh Friday Night Meal Service
  • Meat Bar (Bay harbor) Friday Night and Shabbas Day Meal Service
  • OVO at Altair (Bay harbor) Friday Night and Shabbas Day Meal Service
  • For Shabbat day people usually eat in the SHUL

Shabbos Friendly Hotels in Bal Harbour/Surfside
  • Residence Inn Surfside

COVID Testing

Aventura/North Miami Beach/Sunny Isles
Name Style   Price    Kid Friendly?RecommendationsNotesCertificationOnline Ordering
Fresko Dairy     $$$                                                          
China Bistro                      Meat      $$$              No                                             
Dixie BBQ    Meat     $      Yes                                               
Foozo    Dairy     $      Yes                                               
Fuego                      Meat      ??           ??                                           
Grill Time                        Meat      ??      Yes                                                     
Mozart Grill                      Meat      ??           ??                                           
Holy Bagel              Parve/Dairy      ??      Yes                                               
Soho Asian Grill        Meat      ??                                                  
Mozart Cafe              Dairy      $$      Yes                                               
The Frieze              Dairy Not CY      ??      Yes                                               
Vgan    Vegan     $$                                                     
Grand Cafe              Dairy Not CY      ??      Yes                                             Stirling Road- Hollywood, Israeli breakfast joint 


Boca Raton
Name StylePrice    Kid Friendly?RecommendationsNotesCertificationOnline Ordering
Mozart CafeDairy. 4/5$$??     Nice outdoor area tooORB??
Jon's Place (pizza)Dairy$Yes     ---??
Pita N GoDairy 4.5/5????     They currently have a unreliable hechsher according to R Goldberg of BRS/ORB????
BOCA BAGEL FACTORY CAFEDairy 4/5????     ORB??
MenchiesDairy 5/5????Incredible non C'Y frozen yogurt????
AsiaMeat. 4/5$$??     ORB??
Boca GrillMeat????     ORB??
Century GrillMeat 4/5????     ORB??
Orchid's Garden ChineseMeat 4/5????     ????
Butcher Block GrillMeat 4/5$$$??     ORB??
Ditmas Kitchen BocaMeat&Sushi????     ORB??

Butcher Block Grill, Asia, and Mozart are adjacent to each other at the Fountains Center at Camino Real.
Update Jan 2021: all 3 establishments above closed. They are being replaced by a new set. Carmela’s (dairy) rave pizza (not open yet) roadshow (meat) Eden wok (Chinese, not open yet) oak & ember (steakhouse, not open yet)

Great website for all things kosher in Boca - https://www.kosherbocaraton.org/

Hollywood
Name                              Style   Price   Kid Friendly?RecommendationsNotesCertificationOnline Ordering
Cafe Noir (open till 2 AM) Dairy  $$YesCholov Yisroel / Pas YisroelORBhttps://www.kosher24.net/
Cafe 56 Dairy  $YesCholov Yisroel / Pas YisroelORBNo
Toast Avenue Cafe Dairy  $YesCholov Yisroel / Pas YisroelORBDoorDash
Yum Berry Cafe & Sushi Bar Dairy  $YesCholov Yisroel / Pas YisroelORBNo
Sara's Pizza Dairy  $YesCholov Yisroel / Pas YisroelORB?
Lenny's Pizza Dairy  $YesCholov Yisroel / Pas YisroelORBSliceLife
Mizrachi's Pizza Kitchen Dairy  $YesCholov Yisroel / Pas YisroelORBChowNow
Ariels Delicious Pizza Dairy  $YesCholov Yisroel / Pas YisroelORB?
Grand Cafe Espresso Bar Dairy  $Yes NOT Cholov Yisroel / Pas YisroelORBChowNow
HBK Burger Meat $$?? Glatt Kosher, Pas Yisroel ORBOn Website
China Bistro & Sushi Meat $$?? Pas Yisroel ORBMany
Hummus Factory Meat $$?? Pas Yisroel ORBMany
Nava's Kosher Kitchen & Restaurant Meat $$?? Pas Yisroel? ORB?
Pita Star Meat $$?? Pas Yisroel ORB?
Pita Express Meat $$?? Pas Yisroel? ORB?
JZ Steakhouse Meat $$$?? Glatt Kosher, Pas Yisroel ORB?
Pita Plus Meat $$?? Pas Yisroel? ??


Lauderhill

Sunrise Pita - 2680 N University Dr, Sunrise, FL 33322
(954) 748-0090


Fort Lauderdale
PX Grill (next door to chabad)



Supermarkets

41st and Collins Area
Kastner's Market
Kosher Price Market - 460 West 41st St. (305) 763-8524
YES Market

Bal Harbour/Surfside
Kosher land
Publix (regular big supermarket - Some Kosher items are available)


Aventura
Sara's Tent -Aventura
Kosher Kingdom - Aventura
Winn Dixie - 20417 Biscayne Blvd, Aventura

Hollywood
Kosher Central
Aroma Market
Grove - Hollywood
Sylvia's


Coral Springs/Parkland
Fooderie - 5651 Coral Ridge Drive, 954-752-0008


Boca
Grove - Boca
Kosher Marketplace , with full take out
22191 North Powerline Road, (561) 391-3318
Winn-Dixie (Kosher take-out, bakery,meat,fish,pizza, large kosher section)
7024 Beracasa Way, (561) 368-5442
Aroma Boca
Glicks

Delray Beach
Glick's Kosher Market, with full take out - now under ORB
7351 W. Atlantic Avenue, (561) 637-5771


Things to do
Vizcaya Museum and Gardens
Miami Zoo
Seaquarium
Jungle Island
Lincoln Road Mall
Bal Harbour Shops
Aventura Mall
Sawgrass Mills outlets - Ft. Lauderdale
Lion Country Safari
rent bikes
watersports
Gulfstream
Hard Rock Hotel & Casino
Segway
Kayak or canoe
Hanglidng
Scuba diving by the keys

Jay Why's List of things to do with kids:

Airboat or swamp buggy in the Everglades.
MODS museum in FLL.
Drive Loop Rd in the Everglades.
Jungle Island.
Fruit and Spice park.
Glass bottom boat in key largo.
Fairchild Gardens. (It’s mango season currently)
Kayaking in Oleta river SP.
Sugar sand park in boca.
Frost Museum.
Lion country safari
If all else fails, beach and pool

JJ1000's list of top restaurants and dishes in Miami:

1. Backyard BBQ (New chef in mid 2017 totally new menu): Burnt ends, 2nd cut brisket, Dinosaur Rib, BBQ Sundae, BBQ Burger.

2. 26: Sushi pizza is  a must I prefer it with baked salmon, then the Passion Mojito, Sushi Teriyaki tempuraed, Cilantro Aioli dip and truffle fires, all of their soups are good. Miso Bass is incredible as well.

3. Harbour Bistro, new menus in early 2018: Chicken and waffles just perfect, duck a l'orange pot stickers, millionaire ramen, lamb shank, charcuterie platter if that's your thing... Also serving brunch, Chicken and waffles again, eggs Benedict with bacon on top,

4. Fuego: Flatbreads are a must, then the back ribs, pastrami egg rolls, smores dessert, perfect date drink are good. (Update March 2017, the app chef and bbq chef isn't there anymore and the quality has been spotty from recent reviews.)

5. Zak The Baker. Menu changes too often to recommend stuff. Not Cholov Yisroel.

6. Kosh: Chocolate souffle and korean beef with extra sauce are good.

7. Rustiko: Spinach and Artichoke Dip, (Quinoa Salad is very good), (Pappardelle Mushroom if lunch), Mushrooms Panzerotti is an absolute must order only down side is it's a dinner only item. Oreo cheescake dessert but make sure it's fresh.

8. Harbour Grill: The Harbour Grill Filet or TheKing Reserve steaks are great. Supreme Burger is very good as well.

9. Pizza type options:

Foozo: Foozolis, the caprese foozoli with extra balsamic sauce and garlic aoili, their pastas are good as well.

Jerusalem Pizza: Best plain pie, get it fresh in store, coated fries good as well.

Lenny's pizza: Gan Eden Pie.

Also notable unique places are The Freeze which makes ices, serendipity makes ice cream (there is one next door to ZTB now), and Miami Beach Chocolates turtles and bark now also in Surfside!


#2020 Restaurants with outdoor seating

Soho - large semi enclosed patio, perfect for a rainy day

Fuego - large semi sheltered area outside the restaurant, indoors area has a new $20k air filtration system

Mozart Sunny isles -  large semi sheltered area outside the restaurant

Foozo - streetside tables

Zak The Baker -  streetside tables

Cine Cita, Backyard BBQ, Street Kitchen, 26, Kosh - streetside tables on Harding Ave 

Karne


Dan's Steakhouse Recommendations
Food: Street>Mendel's>Kosh>Fuego>Harbour Bistro>Meat Bar
Ambiance: Kosh>Meat Bar>Fuego>Harbour Bistro>Mendel's>Street
Service:  Kosh>Fuego>Mendel's>Street>Meat Bar>Harbour Bistro

Dan's 2024 Update
Moran (pastries) 9.5/10
Neya 9/10
Hadekel 9/10
Bambu Boca 8.5/10
Bambu NMB 8/10
Asiatiko 8/10
Ostrow Brasserie 8/10
Levy's 8/10
Street 7.5/10
26 7/10
Vish 7/10
Rustiko 6.5/10
Fresko 6/10
Smash House 6/10
Foozo 6/10
SoHo 6/10
Kosh 5.5/10
Carmela's Boca 5/10
Fuego 5/10
Ditmas Boca 4.5/10
China Beach 4/10
Cine Citta 3/10 Can't recommend due to service failures.
Meat Bar 2/10 Can't recommend due to service failures.
Cafe Noir: 0/10 Can't recommend due to service failures.
G7: 0/10 Can't recommend due to service failures.
Harbour Grill: 0/10 Can't recommend due to service failures.

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Re: South Florida Master Thread
« Reply #10540 on: June 30, 2020, 07:06:38 PM »
Is there any shul in the North Miami Beach area or short driving distance, where one can go pray without registering or going through investigations ?

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plan on going to florida for 2 days am i going to have any problems with hotels coming in fron NY

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plan on going to florida for 2 days am i going to have any problems with hotels coming in fron NY
its the opposite now

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« Reply #10544 on: July 03, 2020, 12:19:56 PM »
plan on going to florida for 2 days am i going to have any problems with hotels coming in fron NY
Driving down I got stopped and had to fill out a form. Doesnt look like anyone reads them thou.
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Anyone know where one can get a Covid swab test with fast results today? Walgreens, CBS, etc have no available appts for a week at least.

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« Reply #10546 on: July 05, 2020, 06:40:44 PM »
Hi

I am trying to find a hotel in the Miami area for November. I would be staying over Shabbos, so I need it to be Shabbos friendly and within reasonable walking distance to a shul.

My wife has a hangup, that she will only reserve a hotel that the room can support my family. Meaning she does not want to count on joining rooms. So I would need a hotel that has two bedroom suits with at least a pull out couch.

While I would rather be on the water, I don't want to spend an arm and leg to do that (I saw Turnberry is a few thousand a night).

Any suggestions?

Thank you

EDIT: It looks like these hotels fit the criteria but are they shabbos friendly (can go in and out without problems on shabbos, and close to a shul)

 Sun Harbor Boutique
Fontaine Bleau
Grand Beach Hotel, Miami Beach
TRYP by Wyndham Miami Bay Harbor
Ritz Carlton Miami Beach

EDIT 2: I was looking at floridakoshervillas. The locations don't have addresses. Can anyone recommend one personally?
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Now that Miami-Dade is shut down, are there still restaurants in Hollywood/Aventura with indoor or outdoor seating?
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EDIT 2: I was looking at floridakoshervillas. The locations don't have addresses. Can anyone recommend one personally?
@ghurty  I looked at several of the Florida Kosher Villas a while back, at the request of friends from up north who were making a family simcha in North Miami Beach.  The location of villas are superimposed on the eruv map at https://floridakoshervillas.com/north-miami-beach-eruv-map-courtesy-of-floridakoshervillas-com/
They were all about a 2-15 minute walk to a shul, and the shuls are pretty close to each other.  Some are even right "on the water", if that's important to you!  That is, near the canal which has a walking path alongside.  But the others are only a 10 minute walk away from the canal. 

The houses were all set up with the accoutrements for Shabbos, including shabbos lights in the bedrooms.  The photos I had seen on the website very accurately matched what I actually saw in the houses, with two exceptions:
Many photos are taken with a wide angle lens, understandably, so that you can see the whole room.  But it means that the room itself may look smaller than you imagine based on the photo.  Not that the rooms were small, just smaller than I had expected from the pictures.
Also, many of the houses were built at a time (1960s? 70s?) when the split level was popular, and so they have 2 or 3 steps going from the main kitchen/living room level to the bedroom/bathroom level, in some cases with no railing.  These steps weren't always visible in the photos on the website.  So if this would be a problem for your family, ask them which houses don't have the steps. 

The friends who asked me to look ended up taking 3 of the houses, and were very happy with them.  They enjoyed the feeling of being in a home of their own, rather than a hotel, having their own kitchen and pool and washer/dryer.

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« Reply #10550 on: July 10, 2020, 12:29:37 PM »
Let’s put the political side, is Miami safe nowadays?
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Highest COVID positivity rate in the world and jammed hospitals and you think that's safe right now?
I suppose if you have antibodies it should be.
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Highest COVID positivity rate in the world and jammed hospitals and you think that's safe right now?
I suppose if you have antibodies it might be.
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I originally wrote that, but changed it as I didn't want to get into an argument over that here :D
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Per inside sources the largest hospital system in Broward has reached COVID capacity and is transporting patients to other hospitals. That’s not good :/

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« Reply #10559 on: July 10, 2020, 05:05:06 PM »
is Orlando any better?
Personally, I wouldn't go to FL in the near term, despite having antibodies.

I do have trips to CPT, EWR, ORD later this year, which we'll see if they pan out.
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