South Florida Master Thread

[jj1000]

Moran or Hadekel

Moran is Hadekel... But yeah, they have different items.

For family I like Bagel Time or Italian Time is same place but some items cheaper iirc.

[jj1000]

Was there a question in there

[Dan]

Moran is Hadekel...

Huh

[jj1000]

Huh

Same owner and merged the stores.

Hadekel now sells all the fresh daily pastries as well as cookied/cakes from their Moran flagship store in FLL.

[Dan]

Same owner and merged the stores.

Hadekel now sells all the fresh daily pastries as well as cookied/cakes from their Moran flagship store in FLL.

But completely different food menus?
Also when I was at Hadekel at 9am earlier this month, the croissants weren't ready yet.

We ate at Moran one day and Hedekel the next. Can't go wrong with either, but they're not the same at all.

[momo]

I heard person certifying it is big talmid chacham, and only reason there not under the vaad is because he certifies all their ny locations(the ones that are kosher

Feel free to eat there. Open Shabbos Yom Tov, and Yom Kippur. To me this is different then a donut or ice cream shop, as they aren't preparing any foods. Here there is a full kitchen to go with veggies that require real checking, fires that need to be lit etc..

I'm not saying don't eat at these locations, but every person should do their own homework and decide what level of kashrus they are comfortable with.
Story about one of the locations below. Problem was rectified, and he was well meaning, but again to each their own. Personally with so many many other frum owned, and run bagel store options on Long Island available, it wasn't a difficult decision, to decide that maybe i should take my business elsewhere. Would i eat there if i was travelling in Omaha, and this was the only kosher establishment? Possibly.

Recently, a sharp-eyed frum reader witnessed something quite bizarre.  It was a kosher bagel store with a prominently displayed kashrus certificate that was doing a brisk business over Pesach. The store, known as Bagel Boss, located at 263 First Avenue in Manhattan, also displayed a prominent Mezuzah on the doorpost.

Um, Uh-Oh.

So what’s the story?

THE EXPLANATION

A call to the Rav HaMachshir who signed the Kashrus certificate produced the following explanation:

The Rabbi explained that, last year, during the height of COVID, he had received an interesting call.  Apparently, Beth Israel Hospital was undergoing construction, and they did not have cafeteria facilities available for their staff and the construction workers.  The hospital made a request that, in light of the situation, was there some way that could be figured out that the bagel store be kept open?

The Rabbi felt that in order to accommodate the hospital’s request he would make a full sale of the business to a gentile.  It seems that the Rabbi felt that there were cheshbonos and elements of Chillul Hashem in not accommodating the request.  He further explained that a full and legal sale was done, no different than the sale done to the national supermarket chains with Jewish ownership.  The Rabbi did the same sale again for this year.

 

THE PROBLEM

The problem was that the sign that indicated the hechsher was, in fact, not taken down from the store front. Furthermore, there was no signage indicating that such a sale had taken place.

There is an issue in halacha called “Maris Ayin” – where a situation appears to be a violation of Halacha (see Shulchan Aruch OC 243:2).  This is particularly problematic when a business is specifically identified as under Jewish ownership.  For example, it is forbidden to rent out a bathhouse to a gentile if it had previous Jewish ownership. This is called, “shaim Yisroel nikrah alav – the name of Jewish ownership is still upon it.”

THE SIGN IS REMOVED

The Rabbi, having been contacted by the sharp-eyed and alert observer, instructed that the sign be removed immediately.

[yeshivabucher]

Went to Hadekel got the yemenite toast and shuk breakfast with lemonan. Was really amazing!!

[Dan]

Went to Hadekel got the yemenite toast and shuk breakfast with lemonan. Was really amazing!!

Burnt eggplant, pita sabich, and pita saruf are just insane.
Mocha and lemonana are also fantastic.

[jj1000]

Pita saruf

All day every day.

[yeshivabucher]

While on Collins in Bal harbor  got into a little fender bender  super Minor damage while switching lanes I thought the lady was letting me in and it turns out she was not. Cop wrote a moving violation. 😡😡

[jj1000]

While on Collins in Bal harbor  got into a little fender bender  super Minor damage while switching lanes I thought the lady was letting me in and it turns out she was not. Cop wrote a moving violation. 😡😡

Mathew Buchwald Ticket Lawyer FL +1 (305) 788-2680

He's excellent IME.

[yeshivabucher]

Mathew Buchwald Ticket Lawyer FL +1 (305) 788-2680

He's excellent IME.

real mentch doesn't want to charge for telling me how to get it thrown out.

[yeshivabucher]

What are the must try dishes by Asiatiko?

[Euclid]

What are the must try dishes by Asiatiko?

Turkey wrapped dates

[Dan]

What are the must try dishes by Asiatiko?

Sumatran Tiger cocktail, corn ribs, Turkey wrapped dates, gyozas, sliders, ribeye, green bean fries, truffle fries, dessert dumplings.

[Yo ssi]

What are the must try dishes by Asiatiko?

Anything that's lubavich

[jj1000]

real mentch doesn't want to charge for telling me how to get it thrown out.

BH!

That's amazing, I hope it works!

[chevron]

Neya was amazing. Really expensive but I loved it

[chevron]

The only issue with neya is they won't let 1 person get the chefs tasting menu at $110. They require all those in dinning party to get it ..

Kinda lame. I understand this is the norm but yeah

[chevron]

Grand Cafe nmb is very nice, can't really attest to the food

Assa In nmb is very nice, The pastries are from moran, food is great

To me Zak is still the best