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Re: Kickstarter: Shabbos App
« Reply #30 on: September 29, 2014, 05:21:34 PM »
Biography

We are a team of people including programmers, marketing and Rabbis who want to make it easier to be Jewish and fully observant. Today, there are too many people leaving the fold because they find observant Judaism too cumbersome and outdated and it doesn't need to be.

In fact, there are lots of things that we, observant Jews keep today that are not based on anything other than some stringencies according to a very small number of opinions. Our goal is to change that and empower people with the knowledge that they can be good, fully observant Jews and still keep up with the times.

Controversy and machlochet are as Jewish as challah and gefilte fish. Rashi, Tosfos, Rambam pioneered the way and we can only imagine what their opinion would be of the Shabbos App. But we do know for sure that they would not be quick to pass an opinion in either direction, pro or against, without carefully weighing the information and taking into account that it is 2014.

Perhaps one thought to reflect upon before passing judgement would be the possibility of this app bringing more Jews into the fold. How many semi observant Jews would be more observant if not for their phone being used on Shabbos? How many Jews have elderly parents or teenagers and the stress and worry of their well being takes away from their neshama yesaira? How many Jews feel that orthodoxy is old fashioned and antiquated and crave their religion to grow with the times?

So much of orthodoxy creates separation and division among the different sects, and the different genders and the different generations. Now is our chance to bring everyone together and to be open to new opportunities and endless potential.

It is our hope and prayer that the Shabbos App will enhance the Shabbos for everyone.
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Re: Kickstarter: Shabbos App
« Reply #31 on: September 29, 2014, 05:28:58 PM »
IINM that was set up today and is still only a draft.
+1 not professional at all, even the video is nothing...
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Re: Kickstarter: Shabbos App
« Reply #32 on: September 29, 2014, 05:29:27 PM »
nauseating. Sounds like conservative or reform.

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Re: Kickstarter: Shabbos App
« Reply #33 on: September 29, 2014, 05:31:12 PM »
The resistance to change.
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Re: Kickstarter: Shabbos App
« Reply #34 on: September 29, 2014, 05:35:46 PM »


Well the most fishy thing for me now is:

Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

     yossi.golstein@shabbosapp.com

Technical details of permanent failure:
Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the server for the recipient domain shabbosapp.com by aspmx.l.google.com. [2a00:1450:4010:c04::1a].

The error that the other server returned was:
550-5.1.1 The email account that you tried to reach does not exist. Please try
550-5.1.1 double-checking the recipient's email address for typos or
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Probably supposed to be goldstein

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Re: Kickstarter: Shabbos App
« Reply #35 on: September 29, 2014, 05:37:36 PM »
From one side we have this
www.theshabbosproject.org
And from other side this
www.shabbosapp.com
sad. Kedusha and Tumah fighting.

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Re: Kickstarter: Shabbos App
« Reply #36 on: September 29, 2014, 05:39:01 PM »
The resistance to change.
Judaism is constantly changing, but the changes have to be within the framework of Judaism and Jewish law. Once you go out of that framework it can not be called Judaism anymore.
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Re: Kickstarter: Shabbos App
« Reply #37 on: September 29, 2014, 05:42:34 PM »
Judaism is constantly changing, but the changes have to be within the framework of Judaism and Jewish law. Once you go out of that framework it can not be called Judaism anymore.
Judaism never changes. It's the way we do it that changes.

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Re: Kickstarter: Shabbos App
« Reply #38 on: September 29, 2014, 05:44:26 PM »
Judaism is constantly changing, but the changes have to be within the framework of Judaism and Jewish law. Once you go out of that framework it can not be called Judaism anymore.
Same with most major religions. The debate is always if it is within the framework. Most change is initially seen as not within the framework.
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Re: Kickstarter: Shabbos App
« Reply #39 on: September 29, 2014, 05:47:01 PM »
Whois search came up with this-

Registrant Name: Yossi Goldstein
Registrant Organization: 
Registrant Street: 1600 Broadway
Registrant City: Denver
Registrant State/Province: Colorado
Registrant Postal Code: 80202
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Re: Kickstarter: Shabbos App
« Reply #40 on: September 29, 2014, 05:47:24 PM »
Same with most major religions. The debate is always if it is within the framework. Most change is initially seen as not within the framework.
And that's what we are debating here, if this app fits within the framework of the laws of Shabbat. No one dismissed it out of hand just because "my grandfather in Poland didn't have a Shabbat app on his iPhone", we are discussing if the laws of Shabbat can be kept while using such an app...
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Re: Kickstarter: Shabbos App
« Reply #41 on: September 29, 2014, 05:53:24 PM »
nauseating. Sounds like conservative or reform.

Besides for all the spelling mistakes which make it sound like it's coming from somewhere in BP.
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Re: Kickstarter: Shabbos App
« Reply #42 on: September 29, 2014, 05:53:54 PM »
we are discussing if the laws of Shabbat can be kept while using such an app...
I don't think those that state "I hope this is a joke" think this should be up for discussion.  ;)
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Re: Kickstarter: Shabbos App
« Reply #43 on: September 29, 2014, 06:20:20 PM »

I don't think those that state "I hope this is a joke" think this should be up for discussion.  ;)
What makes you say that?

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Re: Kickstarter: Shabbos App
« Reply #44 on: September 29, 2014, 06:24:19 PM »
What makes you say that?
When someone states that my guess is their mind is pretty much made up.
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