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Find ITA routing codes here: http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=17085

Can book the hidden cities here: http://bookwithmatrix.com

If you are doing a hidden city ticket, get to the gate early, or at least on time. You don't want them to run out of overhead space and check your bag all the way to your "final destination. if they insist you check the carry on in tell them you have medication, if it still doesnt work then dump the carry on & put everything in shopping bags"

You can use this link to copy and paste select routes.

US Airport list (Top 100):
ABQ, ACY, ALB, ATL, AUS, BDL, BHM, BLI, BNA, BOI, BOS, BTV, BUF, BUR, BWI, CAK, CHS, CLE, CLT, CMH, COS, CVG, DAL, DAY, DCA, DEN, DFW, DSM, DTW, ELP, ERI, EWR, FAT, FLL, FNT, GEG, GRR, GSO, GSP, HOU, HPN, HSV, IAD, IAH, ICT, IND, ISP, JAX, JFK, LAS,LAX, LGA, LGB, LIT, MCI, MCO, MDT, MDW, MEM, MHT, MIA, MKE, MSN, MSP, MSY, OAK, OKC, OMA, ONT, ORD, ORF, PBI, PDX, PHF, PHL, PHX, PIT, PNS, PVD, PWM, RDU, RIC, RNO, ROC, SAN, SAT, SDF, SEA, SFO, SJC, SLC, SMF, SNA, STL, SYR, TPA, TUL, TUS, TYS

US Full List:
ABE, ABI, ABQ, ABR, ABY, ACK, ACT, ACV, ACY, ADQ, AEX, AGS, AKN, ALB, ALO, ALW, AMA, ANC, ANI, ART, ASE, ATL, ATW, AUS, AVL, AVP, AZA, AZO, BDL, BET, BFI, BFL, BGM, BGR, BHB, BHM, BIL, BIS, BJI, BKG, BLD, BLI, BMI, BNA, BOI, BOS, BPT, BQK, BRD, BRO, BRW, BTM, BTR, BTV, BUF, BUR, BWI, BZN, CAE, CAK, CDV, CEC, CHA, CHO, CHS, CIC, CID, CIU, CKB, CLD, CLE, CLL, CLM, CLT, CMH, CMI, CMX, COD, COS, COU, CPR, CRP, CRW, CSG, CVG, CWA, CYS, DAB, DAL, DAY, DBQ, DCA, DEN, DFW, DHN, DLG, DLH, DRO, DRT, DSM, DTW, DUT, EAT, EAU, ECP, EGE, EKO, ELM, ELP, EMK, ENA, ENV, ERI, EUG, EVV, EWB, EWN, EWR, EYW, FAI, FAR, FAT, FAY, FCA, FLG, FLL, FLO, FMN, FNL, FNT, FOD, FOE, FRD, FSD, FSM, FWA, GAL, GCC, GCK, GCN, GCW, GEG, GFK, GGG, GJT, GNV, GPT, GRB, GRI, GRK, GRR, GSO, GSP, GTF, GTR, GUC, HDN, HGR, HHH, HIB, HLN, HNH, HNL, HOM, HOU, HPN, HRL, HSV, HTS, HVN, HYA, IAD, IAG, IAH, ICT, IDA, IFP, ILM, IND, INL, IPT, ISN, ISP, ITH, ITO, IYK, JAC, JAN, JAX, JFK, JHW, JNU, KMO, KOA, KTN, LAN, LAR, LAS, LAW, LAX, LBB, LCH, LEX, LFT, LGA, LGB, LIH, LIT, LMT, LNK, LNY, LRD, LSE, LWB, LWS, LYH, MAF, MBS, MCI, MCO, MCW, MDT, MDW, MEI, MEM, MFE, MFR, MGM, MGW, MHK, MHT, MIA, MKE, MKG, MKK, MLB, MLI, MLU, MMH, MOB, MOD, MOT, MQT, MRI, MRY, MSN, MSO, MSP, MSY, MTJ, MVY, MYR, OAJ, OAK, OGG, OKC, OMA, OME, ONT, ORD, ORF, ORH, OTH, OTZ, OWB, PAH, PBG, PBI, PDX, PGA, PGD, PGV, PHF, PHL, PHX, PIA, PIB, PIE, PIH, PIR, PIT, PLN, PNS, PQI, PSC, PSG, PSM, PSP, PTK, PUB, PUW, PVC, PVD, PVU, PWM, RAP, RDD, RDM, RDU, RFD, RHI, RIC, RIW, RKD, RKS, RNO, ROA, ROC, ROW, RST, RSW, SAF, SAN, SAT, SAV, SBA, SBN, SBP, SBY, SCC, SCE, SCK, SDF, SEA, SFB, SFO, SGF, SGU, SHD, SHR, SHV, SIT, SJC, SJT, SLC, SMF, SMX, SNA, SPI, SPS, SRQ, STC, STL, STS, SUN, SUX, SWF, SYR, TLH, TOL, TPA, TRI, TTN, TUL, TUP, TUS, TVC, TWF, TXK, TYR, TYS, UNK, UST, VDZ, VGT, VLD, VPS, WRG, WST, XNA, YAK, YKM, YNG, YUM

South America Airport List:
AAX, ADZ, AEP, AFA,AFL, AGT, AJU, ANF, ANS, APO, AQP, ARI, ARU, ASI, ASU, ATM, AUC, AUX, AXM, AYP, BAQ, BAU, BBA, BEL, BGA, BHI, BHZ, BLA, BNS, BOG, BPS, BRA, BRC, BRM, BSB, BSC, BUE, BUN, BVB, BVH, CAC, CAY, CBB, CCM, CCP, CCS, CFB, CGB, CGH, CGR, CIJ, CIX, CJA, CJC, CKS, CLO, CMG, CNF, CNQ, COR, CPC, CPO, CPQ, CPV, CRD, CTC, CTG, CUC, CUE, CUM, CUP, CUZ, CWB, CXJ, CZE, CZS, CZU, DOU, EJA, EOH, EOZ, EQS, ERM, ESM, ESR, EYP, EZE, FEN, FLA, FLN, FMA, FOR, FRC, FTE, GDO, GEL, GEO, GIG, GPI, GPS, GRU, GVR, GYA, GYE, GYN, IBE, IGR, IGU, IMP, IOS, IPC, IPI, IPN, IQQ, IQT, IRJ, JDF, JDO, JOI, JPA, JPR, JUJ, JUL, LCR, LDB, LET, LGQ, LIM, LMC, LOH, LPB, LPD, LQM, LSC, LSP, LUQ, MAB, MAO, MAR, MCP, MCZ, MDE, MDQ, MDZ, MEC, MGF, MII, MOC, MPN, MRD, MTR, MUN, MVD, MVP, MVS, MZL, NAT, NQN, NQU, NVA, NVT, OCC, OPS, PBM, PCL, PCR, PDA, PDP, PEI, PEM, PET, PFB, PIN, PIU, PLU, PMC, PMV, PMW, PMY, PNZ, POA, PPB, PPN, PSO, PSS, PSZ, PUQ, PUU, PVA, PVH, PYH, PZO, RAO, RBQ, RBR, RCH, REC, REL, RES, RGA, RGL, RIA, RIB, RIG, RIO, ROO, ROS, RSA, RVE, SAO, SBL, SCL, SCY, SDE, SDU, SFD, SFN, SJE, SJK, SJP, SLA, SLZ, SMR, SNC, SOM, SRA, SRE, SRJ, SRZ, SSA, STD, STM, SVI, SVZ, TBP, TCO, TCQ, TDD, THE, TJA, TME, TMT, TPP, TRU, TUA, TUC, TUR, TYL, UAQ, UBA, UDI, UIB, UIO, URG, USH, VDC, VDM, VGZ, VIG, VIX, VLN, VLV, VUP, VVC, VVI, XAP, XMS, ZAL, ZCO, ZOS

Central America List:
BEF, BOC, BZE, CHX, DAV, FRS, GUA, LCE, LIR, MGA, PAC,PTY, RTB, SAL, SAP, SJO, SYQ, TGU, TMU, XQP

North America FULL List:
ABE, ABI, ABL, ABQ, ABR, ABY, ACA, ACK, ACT, ACV, ACY, ADK, ADQ, AET, AEX, AGM, AGN, AGS, AGU, AIA, AIN, AKB, AKI, AKK, AKN, AKP, AKV, ALB, ALM, ALO, ALS, ALW, ALZ, AMA, ANC, ANI, ANV, AOO, AOS, APF, APN, ARC, ART, ARV, ASE, ATK, ATL, ATT, ATW, ATY, AUG, AUK, AUS, AVL, AVP, AZA, AZO, BDL, BDR, BET, BFD, BFF, BFI, BFL, BGM, BGR, BHB, BHM, BID, BIL, BIS, BJI, BJX, BKC, BKW, BLD, BLI, BLV, BMI, BNA, BOI, BOS, BPT, BQK, BRD, BRL, BRO, BRW, BTI, BTM, BTR, BTT, BTV, BUF, BUR, BWI, BYH, BZN, CAE, CAK, CDB, CDC, CDR, CDV, CDW, CEC, CEM, CEN, CEZ, CFA, CGA, CGI, CHA, CHI, CHO, CHS, CHU, CIC, CID, CIK, CIU, CJS, CKB, CKD, CLD, CLE, CLL, CLM, CLP, CLQ, CLT, CME, CMH, CMI, CMX, CNM, CNP, CNY, COD, COS, COU, CPE, CPR, CRP, CRW, CSG, CSL, CTM, CUL, CUN, CUU, CVG, CVM, CVN, CWA, CXH, CYF, CYS, CZM, CZN, DAB, DAL, DAY, DBQ, DCA, DDC, DEC, DEN, DFW, DGO, DHN, DIK, DLG, DLH, DRG, DRO, DRT, DSM, DTT, DTW, DUJ, DUQ, DUT, DVL, EAA, EAR, EAT, EAU, EDA, EEK, EGE, EGV, EGX, EKO, ELI, ELM, ELP, ELV, EMK, ENA, ERI, ESC, ESD, EUG, EVV, EWB, EWN, EWR, EXI, EYW, FAI, FAR, FAT, FAY, FCA, FKL, FLG, FLL, FLO, FMN, FNL, FNT, FOD, FRD, FSD, FSM, FSP, FWA, FYU, GAL, GAM, GBD, GCC, GCK, GCN, GDL, GEG, GFK, GGG, GJT, GLH, GLV, GNU, GNV, GOH, GPT, GRB, GRK, GRR, GSO, GSP, GST, GTF, GTR, GUC, GYM, HAE, HCR, HDN, HHH, HIB, HKB, HLN, HMO, HNH, HNL, HNM, HNS, HOB, HOM, HON, HOU, HPB, HPN, HRL, HSL, HSV, HTS, HUS, HUX, HVN, HYA, HYG, HYL, HYS, IAD, IAH, IAN, ICT, IDA, IFP, IGG, IKO, ILF, ILI, ILM, IMT, IND, INL, INT, IPL, IPT, IRC, ISN, ISO, ISP, ITH, ITO, IWD, IYK, JAC, JAL, JAN, JAV, JAX, JCH, JEG, JFK, JFR, JGO, JHM, JHS, JHW, JMS, JNN, JNU, JQA, JST, KAE, KAL, KBC, KCC, KCG, KCL, KCQ, KEB, KEK, KEW, KFP, KGK, KGX, KIF, KKA, KKB, KKH, KKI, KKU, KLG, KLL, KLN, KLW, KMO, KMY, KNK, KNW, KOA, KOT, KOY, KOZ, KPB, KPC, KPN, KPR, KPV, KPY, KQA, KSM, KTB, KTN, KTS, KUK, KUS, KVC, KVL, KWF, KWK, KWN, KWP, KWT, KXA, KYK, KYU, KZB, LAK, LAN, LAP, LAR, LAS, LAW, LAX, LBB, LBE, LBF, LBL, LCH, LEB, LEX, LFT, LGA, LGB, LIH, LIT, LKE, LLU, LMA, LMM, LMT, LNK, LNY, LOV, LPS, LRD, LSE, LTO, LTS, LUP, LUR, LWB, LWS, LWT, LYH, LZC, MAF, MAM, MBL, MBS, MCG, MCI, MCK, MCN, MCO, MCW, MDT, MDW, MEI, MEM, MEX, MFE, MFR, MGE, MGM, MGW, MHK, MHT, MIA, MID, MKC, MKE, MKG, MKK, MLB, MLI, MLL, MLM, MLU, MLY, MMH, MNT, MOB, MOD, MOT, MOU, MQT, MRY, MSA, MSL, MSN, MSO, MSP, MSS, MSY, MTJ, MTM, MTT, MTY, MUE, MVY, MWA, MXL, MYL, MYR, MYU, MZT, NAQ, NIB, NIP, NKI, NLD, NLG, NME, NNL, NUI, NUL, NUP, NYC, OAJ, OAK, OAX, OBU, ODW, OGG, OGS, OKC, OLH, OMA, OME, ONL, ONT, OOK, ORD, ORF, ORI, ORL, ORV, OTH, OTZ, OXR, PAH, PAZ, PBC, PBG, PBI, PDB, PDS, PDT, PDX, PEC, PFN, PGA, PGM, PGV, PHF, PHL, PHO, PHX, PIA, PIB, PIE, PIH, PIP, PIR, PIT, PIW, PIZ, PKA, PKB, PLN, PMD, PML, PNS, PPE, PPV, PQI, PQS, PRC, PSC, PSG, PSP, PTA, PTH, PTK, PTU, PUB, PUW, PVC, PVD, PVR, PWK, PWM, PXM, QBC, QRO, RAP, RBY, RCE, RDB, RDD, RDM, RDU, RDV, REX, RFD, RHI, RIC, RIW, RKD, RKS, RMP, RNO, ROA, ROC, ROW, RSH, RSJ, RST, RSW, RUT, SAN, SAT, SAV, SBA, SBN, SBP, SBY, SCC, SCE, SCK, SCM, SCX, SDF, SDP, SDY, SEA, SFB, SFJ, SFO, SGF, SGU, SGY, SHD, SHG, SHH, SHR, SHV, SHX, SIT, SJC, SJD, SJT, SKK, SLC, SLE, SLK, SLN, SLP, SLQ, SLW, SMF, SMK, SMN, SMX, SNA, SNP, SOV, SOW, SPI, SPS, SRQ, SRV, SSC, SSM, STC, STG, STL, STS, SUN, SUR, SUX, SVA, SVC, SVS, SWF, SXP, SYB, SYR, TAL, TAM, TAP, TBN, TCT, TEB, TEX, TGZ, TIJ, TKE, TKJ, TLA, TLC, TLH, TLJ, TLT, TNC, TNK, TOG, TOL, TPA, TPQ, TRC, TRI, TSL, TUL, TUP, TUS, TVC, TVF, TWA, TWF, TXK, TYR, TYS, UAK, UGB, UGI, UIN, UMD, UNK, VAK, VCT, VDZ, VEE, VEL, VER, VLD, VPS, VSA, WAA, WAS, WBB, WBQ, WKK, WLK, WMK, WMO, WNA, WNN, WRG, WRL, WSN, WST, WSX, WTK, WTL, WWP, WWT, WYS, XBE, XBR, XCM, XFZ, XGR, XKS, XLB, XNA, XQU, XSI, XTL, YAA, YAC, YAG, YAK, YAM, YAT, YAX, YAY, YAZ, YBB, YBC, YBG, YBI, YBK, YBL, YBR, YBT, YBV, YBW, YBX, YCA, YCB, YCC, YCD, YCG, YCK, YCM, YCO, YCR, YCS, YCY, YDA, YDF, YDN, YDP, YDQ, YEA, YEG, YEK, YER, YEV, YFA, YFB, YFC, YFH, YFJ, YFO, YFS, YFX, YGB, YGG, YGH, YGK, YGL, YGO, YGR, YGT, YGV, YGW, YGX, YGZ, YHA, YHB, YHD, YHG, YHI, YHK, YHM, YHO, YHP, YHR, YHS, YHU, YHY, YHZ, YIF, YIK, YIO, YIV, YJT, YKA, YKF, YKG, YKL, YKM, YKQ, YKT, YKU, YLC, YLE, YLH, YLL, YLQ, YLW, YLY, YMH, YMM, YMN, YMO, YMQ, YMT, YNA, YNC, YND, YNE, YNG, YNO, YNP, YNS, YOC, YOG, YOH, YOJ, YOO, YOP, YOW, YPB, YPC, YPE, YPH, YPJ, YPL, YPM, YPO, YPR, YPW, YPX, YPZ, YQB, YQC, YQD, YQF, YQG, YQK, YQL, YQM, YQN, YQQ, YQR, YQT, YQU, YQX, YQY, YQZ, YRA, YRB, YRF, YRG, YRJ, YRL, YRS, YRT, YSB, YSG, YSH, YSJ, YSK, YSM, YSO, YST, YSY, YTD, YTE, YTF, YTH, YTL, YTM, YTO, YTQ, YTS, YTZ, YUB, YUD, YUL, YUM, YUT, YUX, YUY, YVB, YVM, YVO, YVP, YVQ, YVR, YVZ, YWB, YWG, YWH, YWJ, YWK, YWL, YWM, YWP, YWS, YXC, YXE, YXH, YXJ, YXK, YXL, YXN, YXP, YXS, YXT, YXU, YXX, YXY, YYB, YYC, YYD, YYE, YYF, YYG, YYH, YYJ, YYL, YYQ, YYR, YYT, YYU, YYY, YYZ, YZF, YZG, YZP, YZR, YZS, YZT, YZV, ZAC, ZBF, ZCL, ZEL, ZEM, ZFM, ZFN, ZGI, ZGS, ZIH, ZKE, ZKG, ZLO, ZLT, ZMT, ZNA, ZPB, ZRJ, ZSJ, ZTB, ZTM, ZUM

Caribbean Airport List:
ANU, ASD, ATC, AUA, AXA, AXP, AZS, BCA, BDA, BGI, BIM, BON, BQN, BYM, CAP, CCC, CCZ, CIW, CMW, CRI, CUR, CYB, CYO, DOM, EIS, ELH, EUX, FDF, FPO, GAO, GBJ, GCM, GDT, GER, GGT, GHB, GND, HAV, HOG, IGA, KIN, KME, LGI, LRM, LSS, LYB, MAZ, MBJ, MDS, MHH, MNI, MOA, MYG, MZO, NAS, NCA, NEV, PAP, PLS, POP, POS, PSE, PTP, PUJ, RSD, SAB, SBH, SCU, SDQ, SFG, SJU, SKB, SLU, SLX, SML, SNU, SPB, SSB, STI, STT, STX, SVD, SXM, TAB, TBI, TCB, UPB, UVF, VIJ, VQS, VRA, VTU, XSC, ZSA

Canada TOP airport list:
YAG, YAM, YAZ, YBG, YBL, YBS, YCC, YCD, YEG, YEV, YFC, YGK, YHD, YHZ, YKF, YLW, YMQ, YOJ, YOW, YPR, YPX, YQB, YQD, YQG, YQM, YQR, YQT, YQX, YQY, YSB, YSJ, YSL, YTS, YUL, YUY, YVO, YVR, YWG, YXE, YXS, YXU, YXY, YYC, YYG, YYJ, YYQ, YYR, YYT, YYZ, YZF, YZR, YZV

Canada FULL airport list:
AKV, CJH, CXH, DAS, DUQ, ILF, KES, KEW, KIF, LAK, MSA, PIW, SSQ, SUR, WNN, WPL, XBE, XBR, XCM, XGR, XKS, XLB, XPK, XPP, XQU, XSI, XTL, YAA, YAB, YAC, YAG, YAH, YAL, YAM, YAT, YAU, YAW, YAW, YAX, YAY, YAZ, YBB, YBC, YBE, YBG, YBG, YBI, YBK, YBL, YBL, YBN, YBO, YBR, YBR, YBT, YBV, YBW, YBW, YBX, YCA, YCB, YCC, YCD, YCE, YCF, YCG, YCH, YCK, YCL, YCN, YCO, YCQ, YCR, YCS, YCW, YCX, YCY, YCZ, YDA, YDB, YDF, YDG, YDL, YDN, YDO, YDP, YDQ, YDT, YDV, YDW, YEG, YEK, YEL, YEM, YEN, YER, YET, YEU, YEV, YEY, YFA, YFB, YFC, YFC, YFE, YFH, YFO, YFR, YFS, YFX, YGB, YGE, YGG, YGH, YGK, YGL, YGM, YGO, YGP, YGQ, YGR, YGT, YGV, YGW, YGX, YGZ, YHA, YHB, YHD, YHE, YHF, YHG, YHI, YHK, YHM, YHM, YHN, YHO, YHP, YHR, YHT, YHU, YHY, YHZ, YIB, YIF, YIK, YIO, YIV, YJF, YJM, YJN, YJT, YKA, YKD, YKF, YKF, YKG, YKJ, YKK, YKL, YKQ, YKU, YKX, YKY, YKZ, YLC, YLD, YLH, YLJ, YLL, YLQ, YLR, YLS, YLT, YLW, YMA, YMB, YMB, YME, YMG, YMH, YMJ, YMJ, YML, YMM, YMN, YMO, YMP, YMT, YMW, YMX, YNA, YNC, YND, YNE, YNH, YNJ, YNL, YNM, YNO, YNS, YOA, YOC, YOD, YOD, YOG, YOH, YOJ, YOO, YOO, YOS, YOS, YOW, YOW, YOY, YPA, YPB, YPC, YPD, YPE, YPG, YPH, YPI, YPJ, YPL, YPM, YPN, YPO, YPQ, YPR, YPS, YPT, YPW, YPY, YPZ, YQA, YQB, YQB, YQC, YQD, YQF, YQG, YQH, YQI, YQK, YQL, YQM, YQM, YQN, YQQ, YQQ, YQR, YQS, YQT, YQU, YQV, YQW, YQX, YQY, YQY, YQZ, YRA, YRB, YRF, YRG, YRI, YRJ, YRL, YRM, YRN, YRQ, YRS, YRT, YRV, YSB, YSB, YSC, YSD, YSE, YSF, YSH, YSJ, YSK, YSL, YSM, YSN, YSN, YSO, YSP, YST, YSU, YSX, YSY, YTA, YTB, YTD, YTE, YTF, YTG, YTH, YTL, YTQ, YTR, YTR, YTS, YTT, YTZ, YTZ, YUB, YUD, YUL, YUT, YUX, YUY, YVB, YVC, YVE, YVM, YVO, YVP, YVQ, YVR, YVT, YVV, YVZ, YWA, YWG, YWH, YWJ, YWK, YWL, YWP, YWS, YWY, YXC, YXE, YXH, YXJ, YXJ, YXK, YXL, YXN, YXP, YXQ, YXR, YXS, YXT, YXT, YXU, YXX, YXY, YXZ, YYB, YYC, YYD, YYE, YYF, YYG, YYH, YYJ, YYL, YYN, YYQ, YYR, YYR, YYT, YYU, YYW, YYY, YYZ, YYZ, YZE, YZF, YZG, YZH, YZP, YZR, YZS, YZT, YZU, YZV, YZW, YZX, YZX, YZY, ZAC, ZBF, ZBM, ZEL, ZEM, ZFA, ZFD, ZFM, ZFN, ZGF, ZGI, ZGR, ZJG, ZJN, ZKE, ZLT, ZMH, ZMH, ZMT, ZNA, ZOF, ZPB, ZRJ, ZSJ, ZST, ZTB, ZTM, ZTS, ZUC, ZUM, ZWL

Europe Airport List (top 150):
ABZ, ACE, AER, AGP, ALC, AMS, ARN, ATH, BBU, BCN, BEG, BFS, BGO, BGY, BHD, BHX, BIO, BLL, BLQ, BMA, BOD, BOO, BRE, BRI, BRS, BRU, BSL, BTS, BUD, CAG, CDG, CGN, CIA, CPH, CRL, CTA, CWL, DME, DRS, DTM, DUB, DUS, EDI, EMA, EVN, FAO, FCO, FLR, FMO, FNC, FRA, FUE, GCI, GDN, GLA, GOT, GRO, GVA, GYD, HAJ, HAM, HEL, HER, HHN, IBZ, IOM, JER, KBP, KEF, KGD, KRK, KRR, KTW, KUF, LBA, LCY, LED, LEJ, LGW, LHR, LIN, LIS, LJU, LPA, LPL, LTN, LUX, LYS, MAD, MAH, MAN, MCM, MJV, MLA, MRS, MUC, MXP, NAP, NCE, NCL, NTE, NUE, OLB, OPO, ORK, ORY, OSL, OTP, PIK, PMI, PMO, PRG, PSA, RHO, RIX, ROV, SIP, SKG, SNN, SOF, SOU, SPC, STN, STR, SVG, SVO, SVQ, SXB, SXF, TFN, TFS, TIA, TLL, TLS, TOS, TRD, TRF, TRN, TSR, TXL, VCE, VIE, VKO, VLC, VNO, VRN, WAW, WRO, ZAG, ZRH

Europe FULL list:
AAL, AAQ, AAR, ABA, ABC, ACE, ACH, ADA, ADB, ADF, AER, AES, AEY, AGF, AGH, AGP, AHO, AJA, AJI, AJR, ALC, ALF, AMS, AMV, ANE, ANR, ANX, AOE, AOI, AOK, ARH, ARN, ARW, ASF, ASR, ATH, AUR, AVN, AXD, AYT, BAL, BAX, BAY, BBU, BCM, BCN, BDS, BDU, BEG, BER, BES, BGO, BGY, BIA, BIO, BIQ, BJF, BJV, BJZ, BKA, BLE, BLL, BLQ, BMA, BNN, BNX, BOD, BOJ, BOO, BQS, BRE, BRI, BRN, BRQ, BRU, BSL, BTK, BTS, BUD, BUH, BVA, BVE, BVG, BWK, BZG, BZO, BZR, CAG, CDG, CEE, CEK, CFE, CFN, CFR, CFU, CGN, CHQ, CIA, CKH, CKZ, CLJ, CLY, CMF, CND, CPH, CRA, CRL, CSH, CSY, CTA, CUF, CVU, CWC, CYX, DBV, DCM, DIY, DLM, DME, DNK, DNR, DNZ, DOK, DRS, DTM, DUB, DUS, DYR, EAS, EBA, EBJ, ECN, EDO, EFL, EGC, EGO, EGS, EIB, EIE, EIN, ENF, EPU, ERC, ERF, ERZ, ESB, ETZ, EUM, EVE, EVG, EZS, FAE, FAO, FCN, FCO, FDE, FDH, FKB, FLR, FLW, FMM, FMO, FNC, FOG, FRA, FRL, FRO, FSC, FUE, GDN, GDX, GEV, GIB, GMZ, GNB, GOA, GOJ, GOT, GPA, GRO, GRQ, GRV, GRW, GRX, GRY, GRZ, GSE, GVA, GWT, GWY, GZT, HAA, HAD, HAJ, HAM, HAU, HDB, HDF, HEL, HER, HFS, HFT, HGL, HHN, HMA, HMV, HOQ, HOR, HOV, HRK, HTA, HTG, HUV, HVG, IAA, IAS, IBZ, IEG, IEV, IFJ, IFO, IKS, IKT, ILZ, INI, INN, IOA, IST, IVL, IZM, JIK, JKG, JKH, JKL, JMK, JNX, JOE, JSH, JSI, JSY, JTR, JTY, JYV, KAJ, KAO, KBP, KCM, KDL, KEF, KEJ, KEM, KGD, KGP, KGS, KHE, KHV, KID, KIR, KIT, KIV, KJA, KKN, KLR, KLU, KLV, KLX, KOK, KRF, KRK, KRN, KRP, KRR, KRS, KSC, KSD, KSF, KSJ, KSO, KSU, KSY, KSZ, KTT, KTW, KUF, KUO, KVA, KVB, KVK, KWG, KXK, KYA, KYZ, KZI, KZN, KZS, LAI, LBC, LBG, LCA, LCG, LCJ, LDE, LDG, LDV, LED, LEH, LEI, LEJ, LEN, LGG, LIG, LIL, LIN, LIS, LJU, LKL, LKN, LLA, LMP, LNZ, LPA, LPI, LPK, LPP, LPX, LPY, LRH, LRS, LRT, LTT, LUG, LUX, LWO, LXS, LYC, LYR, LYS, MAD, MAH, MCX, MEH, MHG, MHP, MHQ, MIL, MJF, MJT, MJV, MJZ, MLA, MLN, MLO, MLX, MMA, MMK, MMX, MOL, MOW, MPL, MPW, MQF, MQM, MQN, MRS, MRV, MSQ, MSR, MST, MUC, MXN, MXP, MXX, MZH, NAP, NAV, NBC, NCE, NCY, NER, NJC, NLV, NNM, NOC, NOJ, NOZ, NRK, NSK, NTE, NUE, NUX, NVK, NYM, NYO, ODS, OER, OGZ, OHD, OHO, OLA, OLB, OMO, OMR, OMS, OPO, ORB, ORK, ORY, OSD, OSI, OSK, OSL, OSR, OSW, OSY, OSZ, OTP, OUL, OVB, OVD, OZH, PAD, PAR, PAS, PDL, PED, PEE, PEG, PES, PEX, PEZ, PFO, PGF, PGX, PIS, PIX, PJA, PKC, PLQ, PMF, PMI, PMO, PNA, PNL, POR, POZ, PRG, PRN, PSA, PSR, PUF, PUY, PVK, PWE, PXO, PYJ, RDZ, REG, REK, REN, RET, RHO, RIX, RJK, RJL, RKV, RLG, RMI, RNB, RNN, RNS, ROM, ROV, RRS, RTM, RTW, RVK, RVN, RYG, RZE, SAW, SBZ, SCN, SCQ, SCV, SCW, SDL, SDN, SDR, SFT, SGC, SGD, SIC, SIP, SJJ, SJY, SJZ, SKE, SKG, SKN, SKP, SKU, SLM, SLY, SMA, SMI, SNN, SNR, SOB, SOF, SOG, SOJ, SOO, SPC, SPU, SQO, SRP, SSJ, STO, STR, STW, SUF, SUJ, SVG, SVJ, SVL, SVO, SVQ, SVX, SXB, SXF, SXL, SZF, SZG, SZZ, TAT, TBW, TCE, TCI, TER, TFN, TFS, TGD, TGM, THN, THO, TIA, TIV, TJM, TKU, TLL, TLN, TLS, TMP, TOF, TOS, TPS, TQR, TRD, TRF, TRN, TRS, TSF, TSR, TUF, TXL, TYF, TZX, UCT, UDJ, UFA, UIP, ULY, UME, URE, URJ, URO, URS, USK, USQ, UUD, UUS, UWE, VAA, VAN, VAR, VAS, VAW, VBS, VBY, VCE, VDB, VDE, VDS, VEY, VGO, VHM, VIE, VIT, VKO, VKT, VLC, VLL, VNO, VOG, VOL, VOZ, VPN, VRK, VRN, VRY, VSG, VST, VVO, VXO, WAT, WAW, WRO, XRY, XWP, XWQ, XWZ, XXA, XXK, XXU, XYC, XYI, XYP, XYX, YEI, YKS, ZAD, ZAG, ZAZ, ZQW, ZRH, ZTH

UK Airport List:
EMA, QCY, SQZ, ORM, NQT, WTN, ETR, BFC, CBG, QFO, BEQ, LKZ, LTN, KNF, MHZ, NWI, CLF, QUY, SEN, STN, BEQ, BQH, LHR, NHT, LCY, MME, NCL, BWF, CAX, LPL, BLK, MAN, ABB, BBP, BEX, BZZ, LGW, SOU, FAB, OXF, ESH, QLA, LYX, KRH, ODH, RCS, QUG, BBS, GLO, EXT, FFD, BOH, LYE, NQY, LEQ, ISC, UPV, BRS, YEO, CVT, BHX, DSA, HUY, LBA, HRT

Northern Ireland:
BFS, BHD,  ENK, LDY

Scotland:
ABZ, ADX, BEB, BRR, CAL, COL, CSA, DND, EDI, EOI, FIE, FOA, FSS, GLA, ILY, INV, KOI, LMO, LSI, NDY, NRL, OBN, OUK, PIK, PPW, PSL, PSV, SKL, SOY, SYY, TRE, WHS, WIC, WRY

Wales:
CEG, CWL, HAW, SWS, VLY

Middle East Airport List:
AAN, AAY, ABD, ABT, ACP, ACZ, ADE, ADJ, ADU, AHB, AJF, ALP, AMM, AQI, AQJ, AUH, AWZ, AZD, BAH, BDH, BEY, BHH, BJB, BND, BUZ, BXR, CQD, DAM, DEF, DEZ, DMM, DOH, DWD, DXB, EAM, EBL, EJH, ELQ, ETH, GBT, GIZ, GSM, GXF, HAS, HBT, HDM, HEA, HFA, HOD, HOF, IFN, IHR, IIL, IKA, JED, JYR, KAC, KBL, KER, KHS, KIH, KMC, KSH, KWI, LFM, LRR, LTK, MCT, MED, MHD, MZR, NSH, OMH, PFQ, RAE, RAH, RAS, RIY, RJN, RKT, RUH, RZR, SAH, SCT, SDG, SDV, SHJ, SHW, SLL, SRY, SYJ, SYZ, TAI, TBZ, THR, TIF, TLV, TUI, TUU, URY, VDA, WAE, XBJ, YES, YNB, ZAH, ZBR

Asia Airport List:
 AAT, ACX, AGR, AGX, AJL, AKA, AKJ, AKU, AKX, AKY, ALA, AMD, AMI, AMQ, AOJ, AOR, AQG, ASB, ASJ, ATQ, AXT, AZN, BAG, BAV, BBI, BBN, BCD, BDJ, BDO, BDP, BDQ, BEP, BFV, BHJ, BHK, BHO, BHR, BHU, BHV, BHY, BIK, BIR, BJS, BKI, BKK, BKM, BKS, BLR, BMO, BMU, BMV, BOM, BPN, BPX, BSD, BSO, BSX, BTH, BTJ, BTU, BUS, BWA, BWN, BXU, BYN, BZL, CAH, CAN, CBO, CCJ, CCK, CCU, CEB, CEI, CGD, CGK, CGM, CGO, CGP, CGQ, CGY, CIF, CIH, CIT, CJB, CJJ, CJL, CJU, CKG, CNX, COK, COQ, CRK, CRM, CSX, CTS, CTU, CXB, CXR, CYI, CYP, CYU, CZX, DAC, DAD, DAT, DAX, DBA, DDG, DEA, DED, DEL, DGT, DHM, DIB, DIG, DIL, DIN, DIU, DJB, DJJ, DLC, DLI, DLU, DLZ, DMK, DMU, DNH, DOP, DOY, DPL, DPS, DSN, DVO, DYG, DYU, DZN, ENE, ENH, ENI, ENY, EVN, FEG, FKQ, FKS, FNJ, FOC, FRU, FUG, FUJ, FUK, GAJ, GAN, GAU, GAY, GES, GIL, GMP, GOI, GOP, GOQ, GTO, GUW, GWD, GWL, GYD, HAC, HAK, HAN, HAQ, HBX, HCN, HDY, HEH, HEK, HET, HFE, HGH, HGN, HHQ, HIJ, HIN, HJR, HKD, HKT, HLD, HLH, HNA, HND, HOE, HPH, HRB, HSG, HSN, HTN, HUI, HUN, HVD, HYD, HYN, HZG, ICN, IDR, ILO, IMF, IMK, INC, IPH, IQM, IQN, ISB, ISG, ITM, IUE, IWJ, IXA, IXB, IXC, IXD, IXE, IXG, IXI, IXJ, IXL, IXM, IXR, IXS, IXU, IXW, IXY, IXZ, IZO, JAI, JDH, JDZ, JGA, JGN, JGS, JHB, JHG, JIU, JJN, JKT, JLR, JMU, JNZ, JOG, JOL, JRH, JSA, JSR, JUM, JUZ, JZH, KAW, KBR, KBV, KCA, KCF, KCH, KCZ, KDI, KDM, KDO, KDU, KEP, KET, KGF, KHG, KHH, KHI, KHM, KHN, KIJ, KIX, KKC, KKJ, KLH, KLO, KMG, KMI, KMJ, KMQ, KMV, KNG, KNH, KNU, KOE, KOJ, KOP, KOW, KPO, KRL, KRY, KSN, KSQ, KTE, KTM, KUA, KUD, KUH, KUL, KUT, KUU, KUV, KVD, KWE, KWJ, KWL, KYP, KZO, LAO, LBD, LBP, LBU, LCX, LDN, LDU, LGK, LGL, LGP, LHE, LHW, LIW, LJG, LKH, LKO, LLF, LMN, LNJ, LPQ, LPT, LSH, LTI, LUA, LUM, LUV, LWN, LWY, LXA, LXG, LYA, LYG, LYI, LYP, LZH, LZN, LZO, MAA, MBE, MBT, MDC, MDG, MDL, MES, MEY, MFK, MFM, MGZ, MIG, MJD, MKM, MKQ, MKW, MLE, MLG, MMB, MMY, MNL, MNU, MOF, MOG, MPH, MSJ, MUR, MUX, MWQ, MXV, MXZ, MYE, MYJ, MYT, MYY, MZG, MZV, NAG, NAJ, NAO, NAW, NAY, NBX, NCU, NDG, NGB, NGO, NGS, NHA, NKG, NMA, NNG, NNT, NNY, NRT, NST, NTG, NTQ, NYU, OBO, ODN, ODY, OGN, OIM, OIT, OKA, OKD, OKI, OKJ, ONJ, OSA, OSS, OZC, PAI, PAT, PBD, PBH, PBU, PDG, PEK, PEN, PEW, PGK, PHS, PIF, PJG, PKG, PKK, PKR, PKU, PKY, PKZ, PLM, PLW, PLX, PNH, PNK, PNQ, PPK, PPL, PPS, PQC, PUS, PVG, PWQ, PXU, PZI, RAJ, RDN, REP, RGN, RIS, RJA, RMQ, ROI, RPR, RSU, RUK, RUM, RXS, RYK, RZS, SBW, SCO, SDJ, SDK, SDT, SEL, SGN, SHA, SHB, SHE, SHL, SHM, SHP, SIA, SIF, SIN, SJI, SJW, SKD, SKH, SKT, SKZ, SLV, SNO, SNW, SOC, SOQ, SPK, SRG, STV, SUB, SUG, SUL, SWA, SXR, SYM, SYO, SYX, SZB, SZX, TAC, TAE, TAG, TAK, TAO, TAS, TBB, TBH, TBS, TCR, TDX, TEN, TGG, TGO, THL, THS, TIM, TIR, TJQ, TKG, TKN, TKS, TMC, TMJ, TNA, TNN, TOD, TOY, TPE, TPJ, TRK, TRV, TRZ, TSA, TSE, TSJ, TSN, TST, TTE, TTJ, TTT, TUG, TUK, TVY, TWT, TWU, TXN, TYN, TYO, UBJ, UBP, UDR, UEO, UET, UGC, UIH, UKB, UKK, ULN, ULO, UNN, UPG, URA, URC, URT, USM, USN, USU, UTH, UTP, UUN, UYN, VCL, VCS, VGA, VII, VKG, VNS, VRC, VTE, VTZ, WEF, WEH, WGP, WJU, WKJ, WNP, WNZ, WUA, WUH, WUS, WUX, WXN, XCH, XFN, XIC, XIL, XIY, XKH, XMN, XNN, XSP, XUZ, XZM, YBP, YGJ, YIH, YIN, YIW, YNJ, YNT, YNY, YNZ, ZAM, ZAT, ZHA, ZUH, ZVK, ZYL

Africa Airport List:
 AAE, AAM, ABJ, ABK, ABS, ABV, ACC, ADD,AEH, AGA, AHU, AJN, AKF, ALG, ALY, AMH, AMY, ANM, APL, ARK, ASA, ASM, ASO, ASV, ASW, ATB, ATR, ATZ, AXU, AZR, BBK, BBO, BEN, BEW, BFN, BGF, BJA, BJL, BJM, BJR, BKO, BKY, BLJ, BLZ, BMW, BNI, BOY, BPY, BSA, BSG, BSK, BUO, BUQ, BUX, BVC, BZV, CAB, CAI, CBH, CBQ, CBT, CFK, CIP, CKY, CMN, COO, CPT, CSK, CZL, DAR, DIE, DIR, DIS, DJE, DJG, DKR, DLA, DOG, DUE, DUR, DWB, DZA, EBB, EBD, EDL, EGN, ELF, ELG, ELS, ELU, ENU, ERH, ERS, ESU, EUN, FBM, FEZ, FIH, FKI, FNA, FRW, FTU, GAE, GAF, GAX, GBE, GDE, GDQ, GHA, GHT, GJL, GLK, GLN, GMA, GMB, GOM, GOU, GRJ, GXG, HAH, HBE, HDS, HGA, HIL, HLA, HME, HRE, HRG, HVA, IAM, IBA, ILR, INH, INZ, ION, JIB, JIJ, JIM, JNB, JRO, JUB, JVA, KAB, KAD, KAN, KFA, KGA, KIM, KIS, KMS, KND, KOU, KRT, KSL, KWZ, KYS, LAD, LAQ, LAU, LBV, LFW, LKG, LLI, LLW, LOS, LUD, LUN, LUO, LVI, LXR, MAK, MBA, MBD, MDK, MEG, MFU, MGH, MGQ, MIR, MJA, MJL, MJM, MJN, MKU, MLW, MMO, MNJ, MOQ, MPA, MPM, MQP, MQX, MRA, MRE, MRU, MSU, MSW, MSZ, MTS, MUB, MUH, MUZ, MVB, MVR, MWZ, MXM, MXT, MYD, MYW, MZI, NBO, NDB, NDJ, NDR, NGE, NIM, NKC, NLA, NOS, NOV, NSI, NWA, NYK, OFI, OGX, OMB, OMD, OND, ORN, OUA, OUD, OUE, OUZ, OXB, OYE, OYG, OZZ, PHC, PHG, PHW, PLZ, PMA, PNR, POG, POL, PRI, PTG, PZB, PZU, RAI, RAK, RBA, RCB, RMF, ROB, RRG, RUA, RUN, RVA, SDD, SEB, SEW, SEZ, SFA, SFL, SGX, SHC, SHY, SID, SKO, SLI, SMS, SNE, SPP, SRX, SSG, SSH, SSY, SVB, SZA, TBJ, TBO, TCH, TCP, TEE, TET, TGR, TIN, TIP, TKQ, TLE, TLM, TML, TMM, TMR, TMS, TMX, TNG, TNR, TOE, TOM, TTA, TTU, TUN, UAS, UEL, ULU, UTN, UTT, UYL, VFA, VHC, VIL, VNX, VPE, VPY, VVZ, VXC, VXE, WAQ, WDH, WHF, WIL, WMN, WTS, WVB, XLS, YVA, ZIG, ZNZ

Australia Airport List: Incomplete
ABX, ADL, ALH, ARM, ASP, AVV, AYQ, BCI, BDB, BHQ, BHS, BKQ, BME, BNE, BNK, BWT, CBR, CCK, CED, CFS, CMA, CNJ, CNS, CPD, CTL, CVQ, DBO, DGE, DPO, DRW, ELC, EMD, EPR, GET, GFF, GFN, GLT, GOV, GTE, HBA, HID, HTI, HVB, ISA, KDC, KGI, KNS, KNX, KTA, LDH, LEA, LRE, LST, LSY, LVO, MCY, MEL, MGB, MIM, MJK, MKY, MMG, MNG, MOV, MQL, MRZ, MYA, NAA, NLK, NRA, NTL, OAG, ONS, OOL, OOM, PBO, PER, PHE, PKE, PLO, PPP, PQQ, PUG, RMA, ROK, SGO, SYD, TCA, TMW, TSV, WEI, WGA, WTB, WUN, WYA, XCH, XTG, ZNE
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Re: Hidden City Ticketing
« Reply #1280 on: November 07, 2018, 06:56:07 PM »
Any issues with ElAl hidden city?

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Re: Hidden City Ticketing
« Reply #1281 on: November 10, 2018, 11:19:19 PM »
Definitely works and saves money

Quick question - nyc-tlv-jfk-yul
Will I get my bags in NY even though my final is not USA?
Any issues with delta @ TLV?

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Re: Hidden City Ticketing
« Reply #1282 on: November 12, 2018, 07:08:12 AM »
Quick question - nyc-tlv-jfk-yul
Will I get my bags in NY even though my final is not USA?
Any issues with delta @ TLV?

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Re: Hidden City Ticketing
« Reply #1283 on: November 12, 2018, 04:07:10 PM »
Quick question - nyc-tlv-jfk-yul
Will I get my bags in NY even though my final is not USA?
Any issues with delta @ TLV?

you will get the bags

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Re: Hidden City Ticketing
« Reply #1284 on: November 12, 2018, 04:25:38 PM »
you will get the bags
and no issues just be smart and remember you are going to YUL and not JFK

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Re: Hidden City Ticketing
« Reply #1285 on: November 13, 2018, 01:01:41 AM »
Quick question - nyc-tlv-jfk-yul
Will I get my bags in NY even though my final is not USA?
Any issues with delta @ TLV?
If you want to have extra peace of mind, just book the third segment of the multi city as a separate flight the next day, it should price out the same

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Re: Hidden City Ticketing
« Reply #1286 on: November 13, 2018, 05:39:13 AM »
If you want to have extra peace of mind, just book the third segment of the multi city as a separate flight the next day, it should price out the same

Got it. Thank you!!

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Re: Hidden City Ticketing
« Reply #1287 on: November 18, 2018, 10:42:12 PM »
Is there any route for fuel dumping on NYC-TLV routes? This dates I want has a crazy amount of YQ charges
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« Reply #1288 on: November 18, 2018, 10:54:13 PM »
Is there any route for fuel dumping on NYC-TLV routes?
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Re: Hidden City Ticketing
« Reply #1290 on: November 18, 2018, 11:21:31 PM »

the secrets come out when you show up to these DOs.
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« Reply #1291 on: November 18, 2018, 11:43:11 PM »
the secrets come out when you show up to these DOs.
secret of town, hu?

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Re: Hidden City Ticketing
« Reply #1292 on: November 19, 2018, 12:31:16 AM »
the secrets come out when you show up to these DOs.
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Re: Hidden City Ticketing
« Reply #1293 on: November 20, 2018, 05:44:40 PM »
Hidden city ticketing will be legal under Spanish law on Iberia.

https://www.elmundo.es/economia/ahorro-y-consumo/2018/11/20/5bf3fd3a22601dc64c8b45a1.html

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Re: Hidden City Ticketing
« Reply #1294 on: November 20, 2018, 06:04:45 PM »
Hidden city ticketing will be legal under Spanish law on Iberia.

https://www.elmundo.es/economia/ahorro-y-consumo/2018/11/20/5bf3fd3a22601dc64c8b45a1.html
They will not be allowed to cancel the ticket in case of a no show? That would be insane especially because of this:
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Although the ruling affects only the case of Iberia, the criterion of the Supreme Court may be required from other airlines with such clauses

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Re: Hidden City Ticketing
« Reply #1295 on: November 20, 2018, 07:13:13 PM »
Hidden city ticketing will be legal under Spanish law on Iberia.

https://www.elmundo.es/economia/ahorro-y-consumo/2018/11/20/5bf3fd3a22601dc64c8b45a1.html

My Spanish isn't that good, but it seems like they are 3 clauses in the contract of carriage that the court ruled against. A big win for consumers.

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Re: Hidden City Ticketing
« Reply #1296 on: November 20, 2018, 09:08:52 PM »
They will not be allowed to cancel the ticket in case of a no show?

Correct.

HT: GSTP on BoardingArea

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Re: Hidden City Ticketing
« Reply #1297 on: November 20, 2018, 09:15:44 PM »
Correct.

HT: GSTP on BoardingArea
WOW!! When can we start doing this?

Again, this is insane! specially if it starts affecting more airlines (can you imagine if it spills over into the US?!), I can't see the airlines not finding a way out of this.
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Re: Hidden City Ticketing
« Reply #1298 on: November 25, 2018, 05:18:15 PM »
anyone have any issues with a hidden city ticket when adding there skymiles to the reservation to get the benefits? Is is okay if this is the first time doing it?

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Re: Hidden City Ticketing
« Reply #1299 on: November 25, 2018, 05:27:27 PM »
anyone have any issues with a hidden city ticket when adding there skymiles to the reservation to get the benefits? Is is okay if this is the first time doing it?
definitely ok.
Just dont do it often with FFN
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