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Will Ebola spread in the U.S.?

No. It spreads in third-world continents like Africa, but a country like the U.S. can contain it quickly.
9 (23.1%)
Yes, And it can be just as bad as Africa.
9 (23.1%)
Yes, but it won't be as bad as Africa.
21 (53.8%)

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Re: Will Ebola spread in the U.S.?
« Reply #60 on: October 23, 2014, 09:46:59 PM »
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/24/nyregion/craig-spencer-is-tested-for-ebola-virus-at-bellevue-hospital-in-new-york-city.html
According to this article he used the subway going to brooklyn & uber for the way home. Good luck cleaning all that up.
Probably wasn't feeling well and decided to take the uber home.

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Re: Will Ebola spread in the U.S.?
« Reply #61 on: October 23, 2014, 09:51:42 PM »
Uber should be able to track everyone who used that driver after him. So if there's a knock on your door.....

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Re: Will Ebola spread in the U.S.?
« Reply #62 on: October 23, 2014, 10:03:04 PM »
I used uber on tuesday.

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Re: Will Ebola spread in the U.S.?
« Reply #63 on: October 23, 2014, 10:04:22 PM »
What I don't understand is if Ebola can only spread through body fluids then why is it more of a concern of spreading  than HIV. Healthcare workers are concerned that hospitals are not adequately equipped and staff is not adequately trained to contain Ebola. But if the hospitals treat patients with HIV, shouldn't there be procedures in place already to prevent the spread of Ebola?

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Re: Will Ebola spread in the U.S.?
« Reply #64 on: October 23, 2014, 10:05:02 PM »

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Re: Will Ebola spread in the U.S.?
« Reply #65 on: October 23, 2014, 10:08:36 PM »
What I don't understand is if Ebola can only spread through body fluids then why is it more of a concern of spreading  than HIV. Healthcare workers are concerned that hospitals are not adequately equipped and staff is not adequately trained to contain Ebola. But if the hospitals treat patients with HIV, shouldn't there be procedures in place already to prevent the spread of Ebola?

Because they are lying to you and it is much more contagious than that.  Doctors and nurses almost never get HIV from patients, and they don't use any special equipment at all. But a nurse got Ebola from the very first patient even while wearing full protective gear.

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Re: Will Ebola spread in the U.S.?
« Reply #66 on: October 23, 2014, 10:10:51 PM »

Because they are lying to you and it is much more contagious than that.  Doctors and nurses almost never get HIV from patients, and they don't use any special equipment at all. But a nurse got Ebola from the very first patient even while wearing full protective gear.
That's what I fear.
So should my wife take a loa? She works in a hospital downtown.

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Re: Will Ebola spread in the U.S.?
« Reply #67 on: October 23, 2014, 10:13:13 PM »
Once we're asking questions if im not mistaken i read 5k died from ebola and the fatality right is higher than 50 % that means less than 10k have been effected by this epidemic. Obviously no amount is little but this has been going on in third world countries for months and only less than 10k? Doesnt sound like something that should spread that much in the US with a much better health system and disease control. No?

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Re: Will Ebola spread in the U.S.?
« Reply #68 on: October 23, 2014, 10:14:31 PM »
Once we're asking questions if im not mistaken i read 5k died from ebola and the fatality right is higher than 50 % that means less than 10k have been effected by this epidemic. Obviously no amount is little but this has been going on in third world countries for months and only less than 10k? Doesnt sound like something that should spread that much in the US with a much better health system and disease control. No?

But, compare the mobility in the US with the mobility in Liberia. 

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Re: Will Ebola spread in the U.S.?
« Reply #69 on: October 23, 2014, 10:15:14 PM »

Once we're asking questions if im not mistaken i read 5k died from ebola and the fatality right is higher than 50 % that means less than 10k have been effected by this epidemic. Obviously no amount is little but this has been going on in third world countries for months and only less than 10k? Doesnt sound like something that should spread that much in the US with a much better health system and disease control. No?
I heard 90% fatality rate!

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Re: Will Ebola spread in the U.S.?
« Reply #70 on: October 23, 2014, 10:16:17 PM »
But, compare the mobility in the US with the mobility in Liberia.
Good point but still doesn't make so much sense. If it's so contagious that nurse in full protective gear catches out should be spreading at a much higher rate...

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Re: Will Ebola spread in the U.S.?
« Reply #71 on: October 23, 2014, 10:16:59 PM »
I heard 90% fatality rate!
Haven't seen that any where I've seen little over 50

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Re: Will Ebola spread in the U.S.?
« Reply #72 on: October 23, 2014, 10:25:03 PM »
Good point but still doesn't make so much sense. If it's so contagious that nurse in full protective gear catches out should be spreading at a much higher rate...

Well, she definitely has it. And I don't think she was exactly kissing the guy.

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Re: Will Ebola spread in the U.S.?
« Reply #73 on: October 23, 2014, 10:41:22 PM »
Well, she definitely has it. And I don't think she was exactly kissing the guy.
She was cleaning up copious amounts of bodily fluids for weeks. Not just serving tea.

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Re: Will Ebola spread in the U.S.?
« Reply #74 on: October 23, 2014, 10:52:54 PM »
She was cleaning up copious amounts of bodily fluids for weeks. Not just serving tea.

In protective gear

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Re: Will Ebola spread in the U.S.?
« Reply #75 on: October 23, 2014, 11:12:14 PM »
In protective gear
She was not wearing proper protective gear to deal with the actual constant handling and cleaning of copious amounts of infected fluids.
It was the correct gear for a quick visit to bring the patient meds or something. Not what she was doing.

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Re: Will Ebola spread in the U.S.?
« Reply #76 on: October 23, 2014, 11:14:28 PM »
She was not wearing proper protective gear to deal with the actual constant handling and cleaning of copious amounts of infected fluids.
It was the correct gear for a quick visit to bring the patient meds or something. Not what she was doing.

Can you provide a source for this?

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Re: Will Ebola spread in the U.S.?
« Reply #77 on: October 23, 2014, 11:21:52 PM »
She was not wearing proper protective gear to deal with the actual constant handling and cleaning of copious amounts of infected fluids.
It was the correct gear for a quick visit to bring the patient meds or something. Not what she was doing.

I read it just didn't cover the neck so they used tape. How much could have penetrated?

And they didn't spray it down well enough when she took it off. How much could it have been?

How much is on a sneeze?

Why do you think they have an idea how it spreads?

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Re: Will Ebola spread in the U.S.?
« Reply #78 on: October 23, 2014, 11:33:04 PM »
Its hard to call a man who risked his life to fight Ebola selfish, let's just call him foolish.

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Re: Will Ebola spread in the U.S.?
« Reply #79 on: October 23, 2014, 11:37:07 PM »
Its hard to call a man who risked his life to fight Ebola selfish, let's just call him foolish.

How about "irresponsible"?

The guy started feeling sick on Tuesday, he just got back the previous Friday from Ebola-infested Guinea TREATING Ebola patients there, and this sick shi#head continues travelling around NYC in taxis and subways?!