I mean, I did the $4k with Red Card. How would the gift card method work? I've been reading up on it a little bit, but it seems like I have to pay for each one and I need to figure out which one is the right one and then Red Card still needs to be loadable with it. It just seems like more of a hassle than just buying a couple of plane tickets, and returning them. I mean, would doing it one time really piss Amex off that much?