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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2014, 11:06:05 AM »
So how long will it be until we find out that better looking women got an easier conversion path  >:( :P :'(
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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #21 on: October 19, 2014, 11:10:05 AM »
So how long will it be until we find out that better looking women got an easier conversion path  >:( :P :'(
You object to adding good looking genes into the Jewish gene pool?
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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #22 on: October 19, 2014, 12:36:20 PM »
What I don't get why? There are much easier and legal ways to see naked women
Life isn't about checking the boxes. Nobody cares.

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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #23 on: October 19, 2014, 12:45:51 PM »
What I don't get why? There are much easier and legal ways to see naked women
You are thinking like a normal person. These guys are sick.
I just found a new supply of forks!

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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #24 on: October 19, 2014, 12:48:51 PM »
What I don't get why? There are much easier and legal ways to see naked women
He probably knew many of these women quite well.

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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #25 on: October 19, 2014, 12:49:46 PM »
"In the realm of Orthodox Judaism, Kesher is on the progressive side. It has all-women study and prayer sessions in which women can read from the Torah, and girls in the congregation can celebrate their bat mitzvahs. Women and men can give sermons at services on Saturday mornings, and women for years have served on the board of directors. Like all Orthodox synagogues, Kesher has a mechitza, a barrier separating men and women in the sanctuary, and women do not lead prayers in mixed-gender settings or count in the 10-person quorum required for a prayer service."

from the WP article

Doesn't say anything about woman aliyah's from the torah. Just that woman have their own davening groups and read from the torah. Could be from a scroll, or just reading from a chumash. It's still very uncommon to have woman called up for an aliyah during a minyan (and I'm unsure if Open does this yet or not).
 

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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #26 on: October 19, 2014, 12:50:16 PM »
He probably knew many of these women quite well.
Bingo

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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #27 on: October 19, 2014, 01:31:17 PM »
He probably knew many of these women quite well.
I still don't get it
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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #28 on: October 19, 2014, 01:33:05 PM »
I still don't get it
Personal vs. impersonal.
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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #29 on: October 19, 2014, 01:53:05 PM »
I still don't get it
Don't use your imagination..:P

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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #30 on: October 19, 2014, 01:53:13 PM »
I still don't get it
See Megillah 15a "כי קאמינא ביודעה ובמכירה"

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Re: Barry Freundel Scandal
« Reply #31 on: October 19, 2014, 02:02:21 PM »
Is that the rachav gemara? Not relevant
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Re: Barry Freundel Scandal
« Reply #32 on: October 19, 2014, 02:05:22 PM »
Is that the rachav gemara? Not relevant
I really don't want to get into an argument over this but the Gemarah clearly says that you have more of a Taavah for someone you know...

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Re: Barry Freundel Scandal
« Reply #33 on: October 19, 2014, 03:39:47 PM »
You can't just say that there are immoral people everywhere, besides for his personal weakness he has done great damage to the cause.

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Re: Barry Freundel Scandal
« Reply #34 on: October 19, 2014, 08:22:30 PM »
Just saw this on FB
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My husband, Rabbi Ezra Y. Schwartz , and I just returned from carefully going through the KAJ (Breuer's) Mikvah to look for concealed cameras and recording devices. We were joined by a husband and wife from the Breuer's community who are deeply involved in the mikvah and its maintenance. As I am a regular user of the Washington Heights Mikvah, my stake in this is personal as well as communal. Aside from the security/surveillance cameras, which are aimed at the street outside, the outside door on Broadway, and the inside door, we found no electronic devices of any sort. KAJ is convening a committee of women that will meet tomorrow to further scrutinize the security and privacy arrangements of the mikvah, to make sure that all women in our community can use the mikvah without concern. If anyone in the community would like to discuss this further, she or he can reach out to me.
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Re: Barry Freundel Scandal
« Reply #35 on: October 19, 2014, 08:37:35 PM »
I'd hire a professional.
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Re: Barry Freundel Scandal
« Reply #36 on: October 19, 2014, 08:51:09 PM »
Just saw this on FB
Great move! All mikvaos would do well to follow...

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Re: Barry Freundel Scandal
« Reply #37 on: October 19, 2014, 08:59:16 PM »
whats FB

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Re: Barry Freundel Scandal
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Re: Barry Freundel Scandal
« Reply #39 on: October 20, 2014, 07:08:26 PM »
Barry made people (who went through conversions) do clerical work in his home and give money to his rabbinical court:

http://m.forward.com/articles/207633/rabbinic-group-knew-of-rabbi-barry-freundel-conver/
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