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-The Lufthansa Premier Miles & More World MasterCard
You can enroll in the Miles & More program here.

US to Israel: For departures from the USA nonstop to Tel Aviv: 80K coach, 135K business. For departures from the USA to Tel Aviv via Europe: 100K coach, 185K business, 290K first. For departures from Israel to the USA nonstop or via Europe for Miles & More accounts with an Israeli address on file: 60K coach, 105K business, 170K first.

The card has no foreign exchange fees.
Lufthansa miles have a few sweet uses:

3 one-way domestic first class flights on United:
You can fly on Star Alliance partner United in domestic first class for just 17,000 miles each way with no fuel surcharges.  All United flights between JFK and Los Angeles or S. Francisco and several flights from Newark have lie-flat seats in business class.  Plus you can still order hot kosher meals between JFK and Los Angeles or S. Francisco in business class.  United charges 25,000 of their own miles each way for these seats, so you’ll save 8,000 miles each way via Lufthansa. Within 24 hours Lufthansa does allow free cancellations even on United medal.

Remember to book one-way flights as a round-trip business class is 35,000 but they charge half the price and round down for one-way so it’s only 17,000 each way.

4 one-way coach tickets:
A one-way coach ticket within the US on United will run 12,000 miles.

Business class to Europe:

Business class to Europe is 52,000 miles each way and there are no fuel surcharges on Lot Polish which flies 787s with an excellent lie-flat business class to Warsaw. (Note that United.com can’t search for LOT Polish flights if you use that to search for Star Alliance awards).
Availability is excellent.

Hawaii:

Business class to Hawaii (including lie-flat seats on flights from Houston and Newark) is just 35,000 miles each way when booked with Lufthansa miles flying on United with no fuel surcharges.  That’s a 10,000 mile savings on a round-trip flight compared to using United miles.
Coach is 20K miles each way, a 5,000 mile savings on a round-trip flight compared to using United miles.

Israel based account:
If your Lufthansa account is registered with an Israeli address then you can book tickets from Israel using the much cheaper Europe award rates.  A flight from Israel to the US will be prices like a flight from Europe to the US. (now must call to get this rate)

Other uses:
Lufthansa First Class has significantly better availability when booked with Miles & More as opposed to programs like United.
There is also much better availability on other airlines like Singapore’s top-notch business class when booked via Miles & More as opposed to programs like United.
Barclays cards can be churned, so you can always start saving up for a dream trip.

Mileage Expiration
Miles expire after 36 months, regardless of activity. If you have a Miles & More credit card and use it monthly, then your miles will not expire.
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Miles and more
« on: October 21, 2014, 05:07:23 AM »
Just flew with an infant using miles and more miles. They told me on phone, when I booked, that I would pay $17.50 for infant at airport. When I got there they (Swiss ticket counter ben gurion )charged me $385. Did I make a mistake somewhere? Will calling miles and more get me my money back?

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2014, 10:15:12 AM »
You should call them and get a refund. This $385to was charged as you were flying on a PAID ticket. M&M charges very little for infants. Not sure why they told you to pay at the airport.
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2014, 11:27:26 AM »
That's what I told them but as at this point in time I was 40 min before flight, there was no time to argue
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2014, 01:50:34 PM »
You got a dumb rep.

I would have HUCA till someone would have done it.

Should of asked here, at this point I would try to call M&M, but I doubt they'll give in.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2014, 02:45:23 PM »
So just dispute the charge?
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2014, 08:49:33 PM »

You got a dumb rep.

I would have HUCA till someone would have done it.

Should of asked here, at this point I would try to call M&M, but I doubt they'll give in.
huca? I was in airport 40 before flight

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2014, 08:50:23 PM »

So just dispute the charge?
for now m&m told me to email my info and they will let me know

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2014, 09:20:26 PM »
huca? I was in airport 40 before flight
HUCA when they told you to add at airport.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2014, 10:53:57 PM »
huca? I was in airport 40 before flight
It's been posted many times on here that M&M only charges $17.50 to add an infant.

When the rep said you need to add at airport, you should of HUCAed or asked on here what you should do.

Lessened learned.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2014, 07:17:30 AM »

It's been posted many times on here that M&M only charges $17.50 to add an infant.

When the rep said you need to add at airport, you should of HUCAed or asked on here what you should do.

Lessened learned.

#AlwaysAskOnDDF
they told me on phone it would be $17.50 at airport ( which I knew as well from other places) so why would I huca at that point in time?

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2014, 05:14:45 PM »
Does anyone know how much the tax would be for a flight from ZRH-SIN using awards?

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2014, 02:16:12 PM »
Just got off the phone with miles and more - I was charged 12,500 for a one way domestic award (US48). I asked why it wasn't rounded down to 12k, like it always was for one ways? And the rep told me they changed the rules on October 1st and they no longer round it down, one ways are 12,500 and 17,500
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2014, 06:35:10 PM »
Do you get a stopover on a OW award?

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2014, 06:41:58 PM »
Do you get a stopover on a OW award?
Within 24hrs

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2014, 07:05:23 PM »
Within 24hrs
So just a connection. Darn.
Thanks.

ETA: Does that change if it's a RT award?

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2014, 07:06:35 PM »
So just a connection. Darn.
Thanks.

ETA: Does that change if it's a RT award?
Don't know, I never do our Rt. anyone?

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2014, 07:16:04 PM »
Hey there! I am using DansDeals Forums.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #18 on: December 22, 2014, 07:21:15 PM »
Just called M&M. As always, you never know if you can trust phone reps, but I was told that if you book a RT, you can take 1 stopover in each direction as long as you hit 2 regions in your trip. That works for me!

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #19 on: December 22, 2014, 08:18:34 PM »
Just flew with an infant using miles and more miles. They told me on phone, when I booked, that I would pay $17.50 for infant at airport. When I got there they (Swiss ticket counter ben gurion )charged me $385. Did I make a mistake somewhere? Will calling miles and more get me my money back?
Just saw this thread. What happened in the end? Were you refunded?