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-The Lufthansa Premier Miles & More World MasterCard
You can enroll in the Miles & More program here.

US to Israel: For departures from the USA nonstop to Tel Aviv: 80K coach, 135K business. For departures from the USA to Tel Aviv via Europe: 100K coach, 185K business, 290K first. For departures from Israel to the USA nonstop or via Europe for Miles & More accounts with an Israeli address on file: 60K coach, 105K business, 170K first.

The card has no foreign exchange fees.
Lufthansa miles have a few sweet uses:

3 one-way domestic first class flights on United:
You can fly on Star Alliance partner United in domestic first class for just 17,000 miles each way with no fuel surcharges.  All United flights between JFK and Los Angeles or S. Francisco and several flights from Newark have lie-flat seats in business class.  Plus you can still order hot kosher meals between JFK and Los Angeles or S. Francisco in business class.  United charges 25,000 of their own miles each way for these seats, so youíll save 8,000 miles each way via Lufthansa. Within 24 hours Lufthansa does allow free cancellations even on United medal.

Remember to book one-way flights as a round-trip business class is 35,000 but they charge half the price and round down for one-way so itís only 17,000 each way.

4 one-way coach tickets:
A one-way coach ticket within the US on United will run 12,000 miles.

Business class to Europe:

Business class to Europe is 52,000 miles each way and there are no fuel surcharges on Lot Polish which flies 787s with an excellent lie-flat business class to Warsaw. (Note that United.com canít search for LOT Polish flights if you use that to search for Star Alliance awards).
Availability is excellent.

Hawaii:

Business class to Hawaii (including lie-flat seats on flights from Houston and Newark) is just 35,000 miles each way when booked with Lufthansa miles flying on United with no fuel surcharges.  Thatís a 10,000 mile savings on a round-trip flight compared to using United miles.
Coach is 20K miles each way, a 5,000 mile savings on a round-trip flight compared to using United miles.

Israel based account:
If your Lufthansa account is registered with an Israeli address then you can book tickets from Israel using the much cheaper Europe award rates.  A flight from Israel to the US will be prices like a flight from Europe to the US. (now must call to get this rate)

Other uses:
Lufthansa First Class has significantly better availability when booked with Miles & More as opposed to programs like United.
There is also much better availability on other airlines like Singaporeís top-notch business class when booked via Miles & More as opposed to programs like United.
Barclays cards can be churned, so you can always start saving up for a dream trip.

Mileage Expiration
Miles expire after 36 months, regardless of activity. If you have a Miles & More credit card and use it monthly, then your miles will not expire.
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #120 on: February 10, 2016, 05:04:13 AM »
Not the best value... is the transfer value better to M&M than LH?

M&M and LH are the same thing.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #121 on: February 26, 2016, 06:52:51 AM »
How many miles is SIN-FRA and SIN-FRA-USA in F?

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #122 on: February 27, 2016, 01:25:22 PM »
How many miles is SIN-FRA and SIN-FRA-USA in F?
according to this the same 105k per way for sin-fra and sin-usa

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #123 on: March 01, 2016, 10:53:31 AM »
Does any Israeli address work for discounted miles ex-TLV? Requires proof?

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #124 on: March 01, 2016, 10:54:22 AM »
Does any Israeli address work for discounted miles ex-TLV? Requires proof?

Yes.No.
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #125 on: March 01, 2016, 10:57:40 AM »
How many miles is SIN-FRA and SIN-FRA-USA in F?

105k OW
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #126 on: March 01, 2016, 12:07:47 PM »
105k OW

Even though it's a 3 region award?

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #127 on: March 01, 2016, 12:18:55 PM »
Even though it's a 3 region award?

Ding Ding Ding!

SIN-USA will be 105k as it goes via the Pacific.

SIN-FRA-USA will be 145k as it goes *the longer way* via the Atlantic and is 3 region award.
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #128 on: March 01, 2016, 12:43:57 PM »
Ding Ding Ding!

SIN-USA will be 105k as it goes via the Pacific.

SIN-FRA-USA will be 145k as it goes *the longer way* via the Atlantic and is 3 region award.

Figured, thanks.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #129 on: March 10, 2016, 12:44:18 PM »
How much is a non-discounted award TLV-NYC? (meaning without Israeli address)
Mileage calculator on website says 67k but some of Dans say that it's more if you connect in Europe

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #130 on: March 10, 2016, 12:52:46 PM »
How much is a non-discounted award TLV-NYC? (meaning without Israeli address)
Mileage calculator on website says 67k but some of Dans say that it's more if you connect in Europe

Direct - 67k
With a connection in Europe - 92k

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #131 on: March 10, 2016, 02:48:23 PM »
Direct - 67k
With a connection in Europe - 92k

Note that with an Israeli address miles are less AND there is no supplement to connect in Europe.
No proof needed, just change address online.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #132 on: March 10, 2016, 03:29:15 PM »
Note that with an Israeli address miles are less AND there is no supplement to connect in Europe.
No proof needed, just change address online.

I'm well aware, but OP specifically asked -

How much is a non-discounted award TLV-NYC? (meaning without Israeli address)
Mileage calculator on website says 67k but some of Dans say that it's more if you connect in Europe

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #133 on: March 10, 2016, 03:35:31 PM »
Have about 15k M&M.
Any flights that I can book with them ?
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #134 on: March 10, 2016, 03:46:05 PM »
Have about 15k M&M.
Any flights that I can book with them ?

JFK-LAX in Y or J at 12k/17k
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #135 on: March 10, 2016, 04:20:47 PM »
What's up with all these SPG transfer audits ?
Why does it seem that spg transfer partners - M&M, AS - cause so many more issues then  other transferable mileage programs ?
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #136 on: March 10, 2016, 11:13:31 PM »
Note that with an Israeli address miles are less AND there is no supplement to connect in Europe.
No proof needed, just change address online.
Is there a reason why I wouldn't want to use my Israeli address?

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #137 on: March 11, 2016, 07:09:46 AM »
Is there a reason why I wouldn't want to use my Israeli address?

No.
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #138 on: March 11, 2016, 07:12:19 AM »
Is there a reason why I wouldn't want to use my Israeli address?

Do you have proof of address in case of an audit?

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« Reply #139 on: March 11, 2016, 07:13:28 AM »
Do you have proof of address in case of an audit?

Do they audit frequently? And if so, what proof do they ask for? Bill?
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