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-The Lufthansa Premier Miles & More World MasterCard
You can enroll in the Miles & More program here.

US to Israel: For departures from the USA nonstop to Tel Aviv: 80K coach, 135K business. For departures from the USA to Tel Aviv via Europe: 100K coach, 185K business, 290K first. For departures from Israel to the USA nonstop or via Europe for Miles & More accounts with an Israeli address on file: 60K coach, 105K business, 170K first.

The card has no foreign exchange fees.
Lufthansa miles have a few sweet uses:

3 one-way domestic first class flights on United:
You can fly on Star Alliance partner United in domestic first class for just 17,000 miles each way with no fuel surcharges.  All United flights between JFK and Los Angeles or S. Francisco and several flights from Newark have lie-flat seats in business class.  Plus you can still order hot kosher meals between JFK and Los Angeles or S. Francisco in business class.  United charges 25,000 of their own miles each way for these seats, so youíll save 8,000 miles each way via Lufthansa. Within 24 hours Lufthansa does allow free cancellations even on United medal.

Remember to book one-way flights as a round-trip business class is 35,000 but they charge half the price and round down for one-way so itís only 17,000 each way.

4 one-way coach tickets:
A one-way coach ticket within the US on United will run 12,000 miles.

Business class to Europe:

Business class to Europe is 52,000 miles each way and there are no fuel surcharges on Lot Polish which flies 787s with an excellent lie-flat business class to Warsaw. (Note that United.com canít search for LOT Polish flights if you use that to search for Star Alliance awards).
Availability is excellent.

Hawaii:

Business class to Hawaii (including lie-flat seats on flights from Houston and Newark) is just 35,000 miles each way when booked with Lufthansa miles flying on United with no fuel surcharges.  Thatís a 10,000 mile savings on a round-trip flight compared to using United miles.
Coach is 20K miles each way, a 5,000 mile savings on a round-trip flight compared to using United miles.

Israel based account:
If your Lufthansa account is registered with an Israeli address then you can book tickets from Israel using the much cheaper Europe award rates.  A flight from Israel to the US will be prices like a flight from Europe to the US. (now must call to get this rate)

Other uses:
Lufthansa First Class has significantly better availability when booked with Miles & More as opposed to programs like United.
There is also much better availability on other airlines like Singaporeís top-notch business class when booked via Miles & More as opposed to programs like United.
Barclays cards can be churned, so you can always start saving up for a dream trip.
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #285 on: November 23, 2016, 02:05:23 PM »
Added Wiki.


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All United flights between JFK and Los Angeles or S. Francisco and several flights from Newark have lie-flat seats in business class.

United no longer fly from JFK & don't all flights from EWR- LAX have lie-flat in J?

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #286 on: November 23, 2016, 02:24:35 PM »

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United no longer fly from JFK & don't all flights from EWR- LAX have lie-flat in J?
no not all united flights ewr-lax have lie flat

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #287 on: November 23, 2016, 03:26:23 PM »
no not all united flights ewr-lax have lie flat
You sure about that?

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« Reply #288 on: November 23, 2016, 03:39:36 PM »
You sure about that?
only the non-stops do the ones that connect do not

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #289 on: November 23, 2016, 03:42:32 PM »
only the non-stops do the ones that connect do not
Duh. That's what he meant.

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« Reply #290 on: November 23, 2016, 04:00:04 PM »
only the non-stops do the ones that connect do not
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #291 on: November 23, 2016, 04:04:13 PM »
only the non-stops do the ones that connect do not
The ones with a stop are EWR-xxx-LAX, not ewr-lax.

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« Reply #292 on: November 23, 2016, 04:19:54 PM »
I don't know what all the flaming is for. Not everyone will understand what you mean you gotta be more specific. Sorry if 3 people found it obvious

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #293 on: November 29, 2016, 05:14:45 PM »
will M&M only book nonstop saver business United award flights for example  ewr-lax or also ones with a stop over? If only nonstop can you piece together two one way flights for example ewr-ord and ord-lax

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« Reply #294 on: November 30, 2016, 01:02:14 PM »
anybody?

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« Reply #295 on: December 01, 2016, 03:47:19 AM »
will M&M only book nonstop saver business United award flights for example  ewr-lax or also ones with a stop over? If only nonstop can you piece together two one way flights for example ewr-ord and ord-lax
They can book anything as it's saver availability

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #296 on: December 01, 2016, 06:00:23 AM »
Good luck finding nonstop saver in J from EWR-LAX

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #297 on: December 01, 2016, 01:04:16 PM »
They can book anything as it's saver availability

are you sure about that? when I call them they seem to only locate nonstop?

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« Reply #298 on: December 01, 2016, 01:41:52 PM »
are you sure about that? when I call them they seem to only locate nonstop?
Are you sure it's saver availability, give them the flight numbers

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« Reply #299 on: December 01, 2016, 03:51:13 PM »
are you sure about that? when I call them they seem to only locate nonstop?
I had the issue with SQ what you have to do is treat it as 2 separate segments so lets say you are doing EWR-LAX with a stop in IAH. let them search EWR-IAH and then IAH to LAX and they should be able to book it as one award