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-The Lufthansa Premier Miles & More World MasterCard
You can enroll in the Miles & More program here.

US to Israel: For departures from the USA nonstop to Tel Aviv: 80K coach, 135K business. For departures from the USA to Tel Aviv via Europe: 100K coach, 185K business, 290K first. For departures from Israel to the USA nonstop or via Europe for Miles & More accounts with an Israeli address on file: 60K coach, 105K business, 170K first.

The card has no foreign exchange fees.
Lufthansa miles have a few sweet uses:

3 one-way domestic first class flights on United:
You can fly on Star Alliance partner United in domestic first class for just 17,000 miles each way with no fuel surcharges.  All United flights between JFK and Los Angeles or S. Francisco and several flights from Newark have lie-flat seats in business class.  Plus you can still order hot kosher meals between JFK and Los Angeles or S. Francisco in business class.  United charges 25,000 of their own miles each way for these seats, so youíll save 8,000 miles each way via Lufthansa. Within 24 hours Lufthansa does allow free cancellations even on United medal.

Remember to book one-way flights as a round-trip business class is 35,000 but they charge half the price and round down for one-way so itís only 17,000 each way.

4 one-way coach tickets:
A one-way coach ticket within the US on United will run 12,000 miles.

Business class to Europe:

Business class to Europe is 52,000 miles each way and there are no fuel surcharges on Lot Polish which flies 787s with an excellent lie-flat business class to Warsaw. (Note that United.com canít search for LOT Polish flights if you use that to search for Star Alliance awards).
Availability is excellent.

Hawaii:

Business class to Hawaii (including lie-flat seats on flights from Houston and Newark) is just 35,000 miles each way when booked with Lufthansa miles flying on United with no fuel surcharges.  Thatís a 10,000 mile savings on a round-trip flight compared to using United miles.
Coach is 20K miles each way, a 5,000 mile savings on a round-trip flight compared to using United miles.

Israel based account:
If your Lufthansa account is registered with an Israeli address then you can book tickets from Israel using the much cheaper Europe award rates.  A flight from Israel to the US will be prices like a flight from Europe to the US. (now must call to get this rate)

Other uses:
Lufthansa First Class has significantly better availability when booked with Miles & More as opposed to programs like United.
There is also much better availability on other airlines like Singaporeís top-notch business class when booked via Miles & More as opposed to programs like United.
Barclays cards can be churned, so you can always start saving up for a dream trip.
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #375 on: February 25, 2018, 04:18:34 PM »
searching on m&m website flights business from NY to TLV don't come up at all, but when I search separately each leg there is plenty of avail, is this new?

also the YQ on the NY-EU legs are over $500 pp, will that be the same YQ to TLV or will it be lower? i booked this a year ago YQ was around $250 each
Depends what airline. I had to call to book that route when I had the same problem.
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #376 on: February 25, 2018, 04:20:37 PM »
Depends what airline. I had to call to book that route when I had the same problem.

How about the YQ do you remember if it was that high? It's showing $500 pp ob LH, LX, OS

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #377 on: February 25, 2018, 04:21:34 PM »
How about the YQ do you remember if it was that high? It's showing $500 pp ob LH, LX, OS
Thats what it is. Iy should come down IIRC when they marry the 2 segments.
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #378 on: February 25, 2018, 04:23:26 PM »
Thats what it is. Iy should come down IIRC when they marry the 2 segments.

OK Thanks I will call and see what they say

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #379 on: February 25, 2018, 05:30:13 PM »
Anyone know if MM has a call center open on Sunday?

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #380 on: February 25, 2018, 05:32:17 PM »
Doubt it. The US office is LA based IIRC. Theyre open US business hours. M-F 8-5?
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #381 on: February 25, 2018, 07:19:24 PM »
searching on m&m website flights business from NY to TLV don't come up at all, but when I search separately each leg there is plenty of avail, is this new?

also the YQ on the NY-EU legs are over $500 pp, will that be the same YQ to TLV or will it be lower? i booked this a year ago YQ was around $250 each
Call to book.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #382 on: February 25, 2018, 10:20:44 PM »
Call to book.

YQ TLV-EU-NYC is around 450 round drip, on LH or LX.
FWIW, YQ on the UA direct flights TLV-NYC/SFO is around 750 round trip if booked using Miles and More

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #383 on: February 25, 2018, 10:26:45 PM »
YQ TLV-EU-NYC is around 450 round drip, on LH or LX.
FWIW, YQ on the UA direct flights TLV-NYC/SFO is around 750 round trip if booked using Miles and More
m & m does not charge YQ on UA metal

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #384 on: February 25, 2018, 10:36:37 PM »
m & m does not charge YQ on UA metal
Yes they do..
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #385 on: February 25, 2018, 10:38:07 PM »

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #386 on: February 25, 2018, 10:41:42 PM »
Yes they do..
my bad after double checking they do. The wiki implies that they do not

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #387 on: February 25, 2018, 10:42:18 PM »
I thought the same when i switched from LH TLV-FRA-EWR to UA85 TLV-EWR and got hit with 50 Euro chamge charge plus ~$300 in YQ
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #388 on: February 26, 2018, 02:35:25 PM »
+1

I thought the same when i switched from LH TLV-FRA-EWR to UA85 TLV-EWR and got hit with 50 Euro chamge charge plus ~$300 in YQ

Within USA (or maybe all NA) they don't

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #389 on: February 26, 2018, 02:39:29 PM »
Call to book.

So I put TLV-NYC on Hold was 52K (israel address) and about $300 YQ pp (on a side note agent showed legs avail that did NOT show on m&m site even when searched separately)

However, when I tried to do NYC-TLV via MUC with the first leg in first class and second leg in Economy they quoted me 145K miles pp saying it was a 3 region award or something, is this correct price os should I HUCA