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-The Lufthansa Premier Miles & More World MasterCard
You can enroll in the Miles & More program here.

US to Israel: For departures from the USA nonstop to Tel Aviv: 80K coach, 135K business. For departures from the USA to Tel Aviv via Europe: 100K coach, 185K business, 290K first. For departures from Israel to the USA nonstop or via Europe for Miles & More accounts with an Israeli address on file: 60K coach, 105K business, 170K first.

The card has no foreign exchange fees.
Lufthansa miles have a few sweet uses:

3 one-way domestic first class flights on United:
You can fly on Star Alliance partner United in domestic first class for just 17,000 miles each way with no fuel surcharges.  All United flights between JFK and Los Angeles or S. Francisco and several flights from Newark have lie-flat seats in business class.  Plus you can still order hot kosher meals between JFK and Los Angeles or S. Francisco in business class.  United charges 25,000 of their own miles each way for these seats, so youíll save 8,000 miles each way via Lufthansa. Within 24 hours Lufthansa does allow free cancellations even on United medal.

Remember to book one-way flights as a round-trip business class is 35,000 but they charge half the price and round down for one-way so itís only 17,000 each way.

4 one-way coach tickets:
A one-way coach ticket within the US on United will run 12,000 miles.

Business class to Europe:

Business class to Europe is 52,000 miles each way and there are no fuel surcharges on Lot Polish which flies 787s with an excellent lie-flat business class to Warsaw. (Note that United.com canít search for LOT Polish flights if you use that to search for Star Alliance awards).
Availability is excellent.

Hawaii:

Business class to Hawaii (including lie-flat seats on flights from Houston and Newark) is just 35,000 miles each way when booked with Lufthansa miles flying on United with no fuel surcharges.  Thatís a 10,000 mile savings on a round-trip flight compared to using United miles.
Coach is 20K miles each way, a 5,000 mile savings on a round-trip flight compared to using United miles.

Israel based account:
If your Lufthansa account is registered with an Israeli address then you can book tickets from Israel using the much cheaper Europe award rates.  A flight from Israel to the US will be prices like a flight from Europe to the US. (now must call to get this rate)

Other uses:
Lufthansa First Class has significantly better availability when booked with Miles & More as opposed to programs like United.
There is also much better availability on other airlines like Singaporeís top-notch business class when booked via Miles & More as opposed to programs like United.
Barclays cards can be churned, so you can always start saving up for a dream trip.
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #405 on: February 26, 2018, 07:22:24 PM »
If you split it in 2, then you're right, it is not, but if you want it under 1 PNR, it is going to be a 3 region award (NA,EU,ME).
Then why isn't it the same in reverse?
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« Reply #406 on: February 26, 2018, 07:23:13 PM »
Then why isn't it the same in reverse?
It is, unless you have an Israeli address in which case they see it as originating in EU.

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« Reply #407 on: February 26, 2018, 07:25:41 PM »
It is, unless you have an Israeli address in which case they see it as originating in EU.
I dont know but i was searching for TLV-NYC without Israeli address and it was giving me 105k. This was last summer so unless something changed...
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« Reply #408 on: February 26, 2018, 07:32:02 PM »
FYI if you search EWR-TLV now you get Ethiopian awards in J at 67k. I just think their pricing is messed up.
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« Reply #409 on: February 26, 2018, 08:58:43 PM »
I dont know but i was searching for TLV-NYC without Israeli address and it was giving me 105k. This was last summer so unless something changed...

Is it possible 3 region award in F price went up from 210K to 290K?

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« Reply #410 on: February 26, 2018, 09:01:55 PM »
Is it possible 3 region award in F price went up from 210K to 290K?
AFAIK there hasnt been a devaluation anytime recently.
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« Reply #411 on: February 26, 2018, 09:27:49 PM »
Is this only for First or for all classes? and if only for First is it the same the opposite direction if there's an EU stop?
All classes.

Opposite direction I am not sure, being as I have only booked from accounts with an Israeli address which prices it as starting in EU.

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« Reply #412 on: February 26, 2018, 09:31:43 PM »
All classes.

Opposite direction I am not sure, being as I have only booked from accounts with an Israeli address which prices it as starting in EU.
My account was mjstakenly set to Jordan which doesnt get you European pricing  if leaving from TLV
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« Reply #413 on: February 27, 2018, 11:00:00 AM »
If you split it in 2, then you're right, it is not, but if you want it under 1 PNR, it is going to be a 3 region award (NA,EU,ME).

Would it be possible to book it speratly and then have them combine it to one PNR?

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« Reply #414 on: February 27, 2018, 11:38:41 AM »
Would it be possible to book it speratly and then have them combine it to one PNR?
AFAIK they can link in notes but not merge
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« Reply #415 on: February 27, 2018, 05:17:03 PM »
AFAIK they can link in notes but not merge

Ended up reserving in J for 92K pp

MM website is really not working, even when searching leg by leg the phone agent had J that didn't show on site

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« Reply #416 on: February 27, 2018, 05:22:48 PM »
Ended up reserving in J for 92K pp

MM website is really not working, even when searching leg by leg the phone agent had J that didn't show on site
How did they get to that number?
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« Reply #417 on: February 27, 2018, 11:30:27 PM »
How did they get to that number?

I am not really sure but I am guessing it's half the 3 region award price in J?

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« Reply #418 on: February 27, 2018, 11:53:14 PM »
I am not really sure but I am guessing it's half the 3 region award price in J?
Yep. 185k / 2 and rounded down.

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« Reply #419 on: February 28, 2018, 12:24:02 AM »
So why not book separately for 87k?
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