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-The Lufthansa Premier Miles & More World MasterCard
You can enroll in the Miles & More program here.

US to Israel: For departures from the USA nonstop to Tel Aviv: 80K coach, 135K business. For departures from the USA to Tel Aviv via Europe: 100K coach, 185K business, 290K first. For departures from Israel to the USA nonstop or via Europe for Miles & More accounts with an Israeli address on file: 60K coach, 105K business, 170K first.

The card has no foreign exchange fees.
Lufthansa miles have a few sweet uses:

3 one-way domestic first class flights on United:
You can fly on Star Alliance partner United in domestic first class for just 17,000 miles each way with no fuel surcharges.  All United flights between JFK and Los Angeles or S. Francisco and several flights from Newark have lie-flat seats in business class.  Plus you can still order hot kosher meals between JFK and Los Angeles or S. Francisco in business class.  United charges 25,000 of their own miles each way for these seats, so you’ll save 8,000 miles each way via Lufthansa. Within 24 hours Lufthansa does allow free cancellations even on United medal.

Remember to book one-way flights as a round-trip business class is 35,000 but they charge half the price and round down for one-way so it’s only 17,000 each way.

4 one-way coach tickets:
A one-way coach ticket within the US on United will run 12,000 miles.

Business class to Europe:

Business class to Europe is 52,000 miles each way and there are no fuel surcharges on Lot Polish which flies 787s with an excellent lie-flat business class to Warsaw. (Note that United.com can’t search for LOT Polish flights if you use that to search for Star Alliance awards).
Availability is excellent.

Hawaii:

Business class to Hawaii (including lie-flat seats on flights from Houston and Newark) is just 35,000 miles each way when booked with Lufthansa miles flying on United with no fuel surcharges.  That’s a 10,000 mile savings on a round-trip flight compared to using United miles.
Coach is 20K miles each way, a 5,000 mile savings on a round-trip flight compared to using United miles.

Israel based account:
If your Lufthansa account is registered with an Israeli address then you can book tickets from Israel using the much cheaper Europe award rates.  A flight from Israel to the US will be prices like a flight from Europe to the US. (now must call to get this rate)

Other uses:
Lufthansa First Class has significantly better availability when booked with Miles & More as opposed to programs like United.
There is also much better availability on other airlines like Singapore’s top-notch business class when booked via Miles & More as opposed to programs like United.
Barclays cards can be churned, so you can always start saving up for a dream trip.

Mileage Expiration
Miles expire after 36 months, regardless of activity. If you have a Miles & More credit card and use it monthly, then your miles will not expire.
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #440 on: May 24, 2018, 07:52:30 PM »
When I try to see what's available online it can't find anything at all. When calling they find  LH flights for my dates.
Any ideas why?
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #441 on: May 24, 2018, 10:59:04 PM »
When I try to see what's available online it can't find anything at all. When calling they find  LH flights for my dates.
Any ideas why?
2 connections?

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #442 on: May 24, 2018, 11:20:31 PM »
you need to call
You mean it's a known problem? Really difficult since I don't think you can check availability on any other site.

2 connections?
No just one

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #443 on: May 28, 2018, 05:43:12 PM »
It seems like Hawaii to Asia is only 35,000 miles per way in Business.
Does anyone know if you can route through the continental U.S? Example: HNL-LAX-NRT

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #444 on: May 29, 2018, 06:21:57 PM »
The LH yq on ITA is $100 less than what they are quoting over the phone, is that a known problem or a glitch?

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #445 on: May 29, 2018, 10:04:38 PM »
The LH yq on ITA is $100 less than what they are quoting over the phone, is that a known problem or a glitch?
TLV-IAD $190 on ITA
$290 quote by phone

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #446 on: May 30, 2018, 05:50:59 AM »
TLV-IAD $190 on ITA
$290 quote by phone
it is yq + some fees

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #447 on: May 30, 2018, 09:30:20 AM »

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #448 on: June 04, 2018, 09:10:32 PM »
Am I missing something here?

I search lh site for F tickets ewr to FRA and it shows 8 available paid. I search for award tickets on mnm site it shows not a single F ticket.
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #449 on: June 04, 2018, 09:19:35 PM »
Am I missing something here?

I search lh site for F tickets ewr to FRA and it shows 8 available paid. I search for award tickets on mnm site it shows not a single F ticket.
Lately their availability has been abysmal. Found one economy seat NYC-TLV over a 3 week period.
PUTPAC reports are they see different availability.
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #450 on: June 04, 2018, 09:32:00 PM »
Am I missing something here?

I search lh site for F tickets ewr to FRA and it shows 8 available paid. I search for award tickets on mnm site it shows not a single F ticket.
their website isn't great try calling

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #451 on: June 04, 2018, 09:37:43 PM »
Would putpac work for booking with united?
their website isn't great try calling
Lately their availability has been abysmal. Found one economy seat NYC-TLV over a 3 week period.
PUTPAC reports are they see different availability.
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #452 on: June 04, 2018, 09:39:47 PM »
Would putpac work for booking with united?
If its available yes. I had to call them last august to get me on a United flight. But lately United does show up on their site. Also, beware, they charge YQ on United too.
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #453 on: June 04, 2018, 09:41:41 PM »
If its available yes. I had to call them last august to get me on a United flight. But lately United does show up on their site. Also, beware, they charge YQ on United too.
I meant to use United miles to book on LH.
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #454 on: June 04, 2018, 09:45:10 PM »
I meant to use United miles to book on LH.
14 days out? or longer if you find availability using LM or SQ
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #455 on: June 04, 2018, 10:19:06 PM »
14 days out? or longer if you find availability using LM or SQ
my flight is 2 months out, but i was playing around and looking for next 2 weeks on UA but saw nothing.
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #456 on: June 04, 2018, 10:20:51 PM »
my flight is 2 months out, but i was playing around and looking for next 2 weeks on UA but saw nothing.
Check LM and SQ. I'm beginning to think there is an issue with LH F showing on UA.
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #457 on: June 04, 2018, 10:22:10 PM »
Check LM and SQ. I'm beginning to think there is an issue with LH F showing on UA.
thanks ill look.
If there is avaialbility there and not UA would i call UA to book or id have to use SQ or LM
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #458 on: June 04, 2018, 10:23:10 PM »
thanks ill look.
If there is avaialbility there and not UA would i call UA to book or id have to use SQ or LM
Dont know the answer to that. Probably have to call UA and see if they can see same availability.
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #459 on: June 20, 2018, 07:54:57 PM »
Is there any Miles and more partner that i can put in my Air Canada or United Booking code?