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-The Lufthansa Premier Miles & More World MasterCard
You can enroll in the Miles & More program here.

US to Israel: For departures from the USA nonstop to Tel Aviv: 80K coach, 135K business. For departures from the USA to Tel Aviv via Europe: 100K coach, 185K business, 290K first. For departures from Israel to the USA nonstop or via Europe for Miles & More accounts with an Israeli address on file: 60K coach, 105K business, 170K first.

The card has no foreign exchange fees.
Lufthansa miles have a few sweet uses:

3 one-way domestic first class flights on United:
You can fly on Star Alliance partner United in domestic first class for just 17,000 miles each way with no fuel surcharges.  All United flights between JFK and Los Angeles or S. Francisco and several flights from Newark have lie-flat seats in business class.  Plus you can still order hot kosher meals between JFK and Los Angeles or S. Francisco in business class.  United charges 25,000 of their own miles each way for these seats, so youíll save 8,000 miles each way via Lufthansa. Within 24 hours Lufthansa does allow free cancellations even on United medal.

Remember to book one-way flights as a round-trip business class is 35,000 but they charge half the price and round down for one-way so itís only 17,000 each way.

4 one-way coach tickets:
A one-way coach ticket within the US on United will run 12,000 miles.

Business class to Europe:

Business class to Europe is 52,000 miles each way and there are no fuel surcharges on Lot Polish which flies 787s with an excellent lie-flat business class to Warsaw. (Note that United.com canít search for LOT Polish flights if you use that to search for Star Alliance awards).
Availability is excellent.

Hawaii:

Business class to Hawaii (including lie-flat seats on flights from Houston and Newark) is just 35,000 miles each way when booked with Lufthansa miles flying on United with no fuel surcharges.  Thatís a 10,000 mile savings on a round-trip flight compared to using United miles.
Coach is 20K miles each way, a 5,000 mile savings on a round-trip flight compared to using United miles.

Israel based account:
If your Lufthansa account is registered with an Israeli address then you can book tickets from Israel using the much cheaper Europe award rates.  A flight from Israel to the US will be prices like a flight from Europe to the US. (now must call to get this rate)

Other uses:
Lufthansa First Class has significantly better availability when booked with Miles & More as opposed to programs like United.
There is also much better availability on other airlines like Singaporeís top-notch business class when booked via Miles & More as opposed to programs like United.
Barclays cards can be churned, so you can always start saving up for a dream trip.

Mileage Expiration
Miles expire after 36 months, regardless of activity. If you have a Miles & More credit card and use it monthly, then your miles will not expire.
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #465 on: June 24, 2018, 08:19:35 AM »
Is the last line in the wiki still valid in todays slim market?
As far as I know it is.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #466 on: June 25, 2018, 04:18:13 AM »
How much is yq 1 way tlv to USA on lx/lh/Austrian in business?

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« Reply #467 on: June 25, 2018, 04:21:04 AM »
How much is yq 1 way tlv to USA on lx/lh/Austrian in business?
$400-500

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #470 on: June 25, 2018, 07:12:55 AM »
a) What is the mileage cost TLV-BOS Economy with an Israel based account?

b) What are the chances of finding 6 seats for Jul 24-Aug 8 flexible?

I tried searching vi the M&M site and got nothing. 

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« Reply #471 on: June 25, 2018, 07:24:52 AM »
a) What is the mileage cost TLV-BOS Economy with an Israel based account?

b) What are the chances of finding 6 seats for Jul 24-Aug 8 flexible?

I tried searching vi the M&M site and got nothing.
a. 60k rt for adults and 45k for children

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« Reply #472 on: July 03, 2018, 06:47:28 PM »
I'm confused. This award chart shows a RT within North America costs 30k in economy but the calculator shows it as 12.5k. Can someone please clarify...
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« Reply #473 on: July 03, 2018, 06:52:45 PM »
I'm confused. This award chart shows a RT within North America costs 30k in economy but the calculator shows it as 12.5k. Can someone please clarify...
Where you seeing RT for 12.5, what route?
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« Reply #474 on: July 03, 2018, 06:56:49 PM »
Where you seeing RT for 12.5, what route?
NYC-LAX

Also, is there any way to see if there is currently an expiration date tagged to my miles? Dan has written that "If you have a Miles & More credit card and use it monthly, then your miles will not expire." I have a card but haven't really used it???
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« Reply #475 on: July 03, 2018, 06:58:14 PM »
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« Reply #476 on: July 03, 2018, 06:59:44 PM »
Showing 30k RT here.
On the chart or the calculator?
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« Reply #477 on: July 03, 2018, 07:00:43 PM »
On the chart or the calculator?
Calculator. Although I'm fairly certain it should be 12.5k a way.
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« Reply #478 on: July 03, 2018, 07:01:57 PM »
Calculator. Although I'm fairly certain it should be 12.5k a way.
From DDMS:The Best Cards From Barclaycard "4 one-way coach tickets:
A one-way coach ticket within the US on United will run 12,000 miles."

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« Reply #479 on: July 03, 2018, 07:05:27 PM »
From DDMS:The Best Cards From Barclaycard "4 one-way coach tickets:
A one-way coach ticket within the US on United will run 12,000 miles."
Exactly, so it's 12k a flight. Which means for 50k you get 4.
Side note that post also has this:
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USAirways has a very generous award chart:
-Domestic awards on USAirways flights are just 20,000 miles round-trip for cardholders thanks to the 5,000 mile discount.
-Off-peak coach awards to the Caribbean for cardholders are just 20,000 miles and to Europe or South America are just 30,000 miles round-trip if you fly on USAirways. Off peak First........
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