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-The Lufthansa Premier Miles & More World MasterCard
You can enroll in the Miles & More program here.

US to Israel: For departures from the USA nonstop to Tel Aviv: 80K coach, 135K business. For departures from the USA to Tel Aviv via Europe: 100K coach, 185K business, 290K first. For departures from Israel to the USA nonstop or via Europe for Miles & More accounts with an Israeli address on file: 60K coach, 105K business, 170K first.

The card has no foreign exchange fees.
Lufthansa miles have a few sweet uses:

3 one-way domestic first class flights on United:
You can fly on Star Alliance partner United in domestic first class for just 17,000 miles each way with no fuel surcharges.  All United flights between JFK and Los Angeles or S. Francisco and several flights from Newark have lie-flat seats in business class.  Plus you can still order hot kosher meals between JFK and Los Angeles or S. Francisco in business class.  United charges 25,000 of their own miles each way for these seats, so youíll save 8,000 miles each way via Lufthansa. Within 24 hours Lufthansa does allow free cancellations even on United medal.

Remember to book one-way flights as a round-trip business class is 35,000 but they charge half the price and round down for one-way so itís only 17,000 each way.

4 one-way coach tickets:
A one-way coach ticket within the US on United will run 12,000 miles.

Business class to Europe:

Business class to Europe is 52,000 miles each way and there are no fuel surcharges on Lot Polish which flies 787s with an excellent lie-flat business class to Warsaw. (Note that United.com canít search for LOT Polish flights if you use that to search for Star Alliance awards).
Availability is excellent.

Hawaii:

Business class to Hawaii (including lie-flat seats on flights from Houston and Newark) is just 35,000 miles each way when booked with Lufthansa miles flying on United with no fuel surcharges.  Thatís a 10,000 mile savings on a round-trip flight compared to using United miles.
Coach is 20K miles each way, a 5,000 mile savings on a round-trip flight compared to using United miles.

Israel based account:
If your Lufthansa account is registered with an Israeli address then you can book tickets from Israel using the much cheaper Europe award rates.  A flight from Israel to the US will be prices like a flight from Europe to the US. (now must call to get this rate)

Other uses:
Lufthansa First Class has significantly better availability when booked with Miles & More as opposed to programs like United.
There is also much better availability on other airlines like Singaporeís top-notch business class when booked via Miles & More as opposed to programs like United.
Barclays cards can be churned, so you can always start saving up for a dream trip.

Mileage Expiration
Miles expire after 36 months, regardless of activity. If you have a Miles & More credit card and use it monthly, then your miles will not expire.
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #480 on: July 03, 2018, 07:58:47 PM »
You guys are bringing proof from a 4 year old post?  ::)
It's 12.5k each way.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #481 on: July 03, 2018, 08:02:14 PM »


You guys are bringing proof from a 4 year old post?  ::)
It's 12.5k each way.
Hence this:
Side note that post also has this:
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USAirways has a very generous award chart:
-Domestic awards on USAirways flights are just 20,000 miles round-trip for cardholders thanks to the 5,000 mile discount.
-Off-peak coach awards to the Caribbean for cardholders are just 20,000 miles and to Europe or South America are just 30,000 miles round-trip if you fly on USAirways. Off peak First........

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #482 on: July 03, 2018, 11:12:41 PM »
Showing 30k RT here.
Calculator. Although I'm fairly certain it should be 12.5k a way.
Exactly, so it's 12k a flight. Which means for 50k you get 4.
Side note that post also has this:
12 + 12 = 24 not 30. Am I  missing something?

Side note that post also has this:
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USAirways has a very generous award chart:
-Domestic awards on USAirways flights are just 20,000 miles round-trip for cardholders thanks to the 5,000 mile discount.
-Off-peak coach awards to the Caribbean for cardholders are just 20,000 miles and to Europe or South America are just 30,000 miles round-trip if you fly on USAirways. Off peak First........
This is in regard to USAirways which doesn't exist anymore. I don't understand the relevance.
« Last Edit: July 03, 2018, 11:16:47 PM by Thingywingy »
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #483 on: July 04, 2018, 02:44:35 AM »
12 + 12 = 24 not 30. Am I  missing something?
This is in regard to USAirways which doesn't exist anymore. I don't understand the relevance.
I believe the calculator was incorrect.
My point of the US Airways thing was to show that the post is quite outdated.
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #484 on: July 12, 2018, 06:33:46 PM »
Is there a decent way to search for availability?
Looking on Aeroplan, I see biz open from LHR-FRA-JFK on LH. Aeroplan show $649CAN in fees. What does LH charge in fees?
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #485 on: July 12, 2018, 06:42:44 PM »
Is there a decent way to search for availability?
Looking on Aeroplan, I see biz open from LHR-FRA-JFK on LH. Aeroplan show $649CAN in fees. What does LH charge in fees?
You know they show a breakdown of tbe fees.
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #486 on: July 12, 2018, 07:20:30 PM »
You know they show a breakdown of tbe fees.
Thanks.
You have to click on the "taxes, fees, and surcharged" for it to open; I didn't notice that.
Is United.com the best way to search? Is there way to search on ITA but limit to a certain class of seats?
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #487 on: September 06, 2018, 09:30:02 PM »
Anyone know if LOT typically releases economy or business awards for M&M with 1-2 weeks of flight?

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #488 on: September 30, 2018, 03:37:19 AM »
Help! I have 25k m&m points expiring today. I donít have specific future travel plans. Any advice?

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #489 on: September 30, 2018, 05:04:18 AM »
Help! I have 25k m&m points expiring today. I donít have specific future travel plans. Any advice?

Book a flight as far out as you can -- cancel later and redeposit miles

will the cost to cancel be more than the value of the miles????-- you can only decide-not sure but I believe after you  cancel the miles will be good for another 3 months or so

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #490 on: September 30, 2018, 03:40:49 PM »
Book a flight as far out as you can -- cancel later and redeposit miles

will the cost to cancel be more than the value of the miles????-- you can only decide-not sure but I believe after you  cancel the miles will be good for another 3 months or so
+1 This is the only option if you think the miles are worth more to you than the cancellation fee.
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #491 on: September 30, 2018, 04:33:02 PM »
+1 This is the only option if you think the miles are worth more to you than the cancellation fee.
Thanks, did it. I think 50Ä Are worth it for a domestic RT on United.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #492 on: September 30, 2018, 04:57:39 PM »
Thanks, did it. I think 50Ä Are worth it for a domestic RT on United.
Definitely.
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #493 on: October 04, 2018, 01:42:28 PM »
is it common the phone cs can't find availability i see on their own website?

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #494 on: December 12, 2018, 02:26:34 PM »
Book a flight as far out as you can -- cancel later and redeposit miles

will the cost to cancel be more than the value of the miles????-- you can only decide-not sure but I believe after you  cancel the miles will be good for another 3 months or so
How long are the miles valid for once you cancel the ticket and get the miles re-dopsited?