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-The Lufthansa Premier Miles & More World MasterCard
You can enroll in the Miles & More program here.

US to Israel: For departures from the USA nonstop to Tel Aviv: 80K coach, 135K business. For departures from the USA to Tel Aviv via Europe: 100K coach, 185K business, 290K first. For departures from Israel to the USA nonstop or via Europe for Miles & More accounts with an Israeli address on file: 60K coach, 105K business, 170K first.

The card has no foreign exchange fees.
Lufthansa miles have a few sweet uses:

3 one-way domestic first class flights on United:
You can fly on Star Alliance partner United in domestic first class for just 17,000 miles each way with no fuel surcharges.  All United flights between JFK and Los Angeles or S. Francisco and several flights from Newark have lie-flat seats in business class.  Plus you can still order hot kosher meals between JFK and Los Angeles or S. Francisco in business class.  United charges 25,000 of their own miles each way for these seats, so you’ll save 8,000 miles each way via Lufthansa. Within 24 hours Lufthansa does allow free cancellations even on United medal.

Remember to book one-way flights as a round-trip business class is 35,000 but they charge half the price and round down for one-way so it’s only 17,000 each way.

4 one-way coach tickets:
A one-way coach ticket within the US on United will run 12,000 miles.

Business class to Europe:

Business class to Europe is 52,000 miles each way and there are no fuel surcharges on Lot Polish which flies 787s with an excellent lie-flat business class to Warsaw. (Note that United.com can’t search for LOT Polish flights if you use that to search for Star Alliance awards).
Availability is excellent.

Hawaii:

Business class to Hawaii (including lie-flat seats on flights from Houston and Newark) is just 35,000 miles each way when booked with Lufthansa miles flying on United with no fuel surcharges.  That’s a 10,000 mile savings on a round-trip flight compared to using United miles.
Coach is 20K miles each way, a 5,000 mile savings on a round-trip flight compared to using United miles.

Israel based account:
If your Lufthansa account is registered with an Israeli address then you can book tickets from Israel using the much cheaper Europe award rates.  A flight from Israel to the US will be prices like a flight from Europe to the US. (now must call to get this rate)

Other uses:
Lufthansa First Class has significantly better availability when booked with Miles & More as opposed to programs like United.
There is also much better availability on other airlines like Singapore’s top-notch business class when booked via Miles & More as opposed to programs like United.
Barclays cards can be churned, so you can always start saving up for a dream trip.

Mileage Expiration
Miles expire after 36 months, regardless of activity. If you have a Miles & More credit card and use it monthly, then your miles will not expire.
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #495 on: December 13, 2018, 02:14:29 AM »
How long are the miles valid for once you cancel the ticket and get the miles re-dopsited?
From what I was told they will expire at the end of the quarter

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #496 on: December 13, 2018, 03:09:42 AM »
yes-

you can re-do- a new reservation as far out as you find can right b4 they expire to re-extend

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #497 on: February 17, 2019, 12:18:01 AM »
Does anyone know if M&M will combine reservations?

I want to book NYC-WAW and WAW-TLV on the website in 2 diff classes, will they let me combine them on the same PNR after I book? for some reason trying to book it together makes it more expensive than booking separately

Also, if I book 1 passenger in J and one in PE, can I combine them later on the same PNR?

For some reason, I am having trouble with the phone agents getting this done, it would be much easier to do online and then combine later

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #498 on: February 17, 2019, 12:20:38 AM »
Does anyone know if M&M will combine reservations?

I want to book NYC-WAW and WAW-TLV on the website in 2 diff classes, will they let me combine them on the same PNR after I book?

Also, if I book 1 passenger in J and one in PE, can I combine them later on the same PNR?

For some reason, I am having trouble with the phone agents getting this done, it would be much easier to do online and then combine later
This myth of combining PNRs is just that, a myth. It cannot be done. Ever.
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #499 on: February 17, 2019, 12:22:23 AM »
This myth of combining PNRs is just that, a myth. It cannot be done. Ever.

Got it. they want extra 20K for booking it together. what issues can stem from booking each leg separately?   I am assuming at least the bags can be sent all the way?

Also, anyone knows if cancellation/ change is per person or per booking?
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #500 on: February 17, 2019, 10:48:27 AM »
This myth of combining PNRs is just that, a myth. It cannot be done. Ever.
Can be linked, not combined. (Not talking specifically in this case)
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #501 on: February 17, 2019, 11:26:26 PM »
So I just booked 3 people from NYC- to TLV on 4 different PNR's... If I "link" them, will make it any less messy?

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #502 on: February 19, 2019, 09:52:23 AM »
So I just booked 3 people from NYC- to TLV on 4 different PNR's... If I "link" them, will make it any less messy?
but you will have to recheck your bags

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #503 on: February 19, 2019, 10:25:03 AM »
but you will have to recheck your bags
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #504 on: February 21, 2019, 10:06:54 PM »
but you will have to recheck your bags

I think bc same airline won't be an issue at all

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #505 on: February 22, 2019, 12:35:42 PM »
I just came back business class with LF and did not get my kosher meals they told me they will send me a email I never got one where should I contact them to complain ?

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #506 on: April 18, 2019, 10:28:51 AM »
Just realized that miles and more has completely redesigned their website
Even more what I just realize that they now allow to upgrade on partner operated flights including UA
For example farm New York City to Tel Aviv you need just 45K miles to upgrade from Economy  to Business That's more than the amount on United but you don't have to pay $600 with that amount of miles
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #507 on: April 19, 2019, 05:27:53 PM »
Just realized that miles and more has completely redesigned their website
Even more what I just realize that they now allow to upgrade on partner operated flights including UA
For example farm New York City to Tel Aviv you need just 45K miles to upgrade from Economy  to Business That's more than the amount on United but you don't have to pay $600 with that amount of miles
The taxes were insane.
 What's the pricing for an economy tix and taxes? Vs $500-$600 on taxes aside for the award ticket.
  Don't have any miles in account now, otherwise would check on my own.
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #508 on: May 30, 2019, 11:12:53 AM »
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #509 on: May 30, 2019, 12:31:25 PM »
Details?