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-The Lufthansa Premier Miles & More World MasterCard
You can enroll in the Miles & More program here.

US to Israel: For departures from the USA nonstop to Tel Aviv: 80K coach, 135K business. For departures from the USA to Tel Aviv via Europe: 100K coach, 185K business, 290K first. For departures from Israel to the USA nonstop or via Europe for Miles & More accounts with an Israeli address on file: 60K coach, 105K business, 170K first.

The card has no foreign exchange fees.
Lufthansa miles have a few sweet uses:

3 one-way domestic first class flights on United:
You can fly on Star Alliance partner United in domestic first class for just 17,000 miles each way with no fuel surcharges.  All United flights between JFK and Los Angeles or S. Francisco and several flights from Newark have lie-flat seats in business class.  Plus you can still order hot kosher meals between JFK and Los Angeles or S. Francisco in business class.  United charges 25,000 of their own miles each way for these seats, so you’ll save 8,000 miles each way via Lufthansa. Within 24 hours Lufthansa does allow free cancellations even on United medal.

Remember to book one-way flights as a round-trip business class is 35,000 but they charge half the price and round down for one-way so it’s only 17,000 each way.

4 one-way coach tickets:
A one-way coach ticket within the US on United will run 12,000 miles.

Business class to Europe:

Business class to Europe is 52,000 miles each way and there are no fuel surcharges on Lot Polish which flies 787s with an excellent lie-flat business class to Warsaw. (Note that United.com can’t search for LOT Polish flights if you use that to search for Star Alliance awards).
Availability is excellent.

Hawaii:

Business class to Hawaii (including lie-flat seats on flights from Houston and Newark) is just 35,000 miles each way when booked with Lufthansa miles flying on United with no fuel surcharges.  That’s a 10,000 mile savings on a round-trip flight compared to using United miles.
Coach is 20K miles each way, a 5,000 mile savings on a round-trip flight compared to using United miles.

Israel based account:
If your Lufthansa account is registered with an Israeli address then you can book tickets from Israel using the much cheaper Europe award rates.  A flight from Israel to the US will be prices like a flight from Europe to the US. (now must call to get this rate)

Other uses:
Lufthansa First Class has significantly better availability when booked with Miles & More as opposed to programs like United.
There is also much better availability on other airlines like Singapore’s top-notch business class when booked via Miles & More as opposed to programs like United.
Barclays cards can be churned, so you can always start saving up for a dream trip.

Mileage Expiration
Miles expire after 36 months, regardless of activity. If you have a Miles & More credit card and use it monthly, then your miles will not expire.
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #100 on: October 20, 2015, 10:23:13 AM »
What would ATH-MUC-JFK be in J?
Quaerite et Invenietis.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #101 on: October 20, 2015, 10:59:35 AM »
What would ATH-MUC-JFK be in J?

if in ATH when I am there ( right now ) ,  lunch for the whole Mispucha is on me 😊 Pardon the misspelling

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #102 on: October 20, 2015, 11:00:29 AM »
if in ATH when I am there ( right now ) ,  lunch for the whole Mispucha is on me 😊 Pardon the misspelling
I may be there 11/17 with a friend. I do appreciate the offer. If you are around, may take you upon it!
Quaerite et Invenietis.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #103 on: October 20, 2015, 11:14:09 AM »
What would ATH-MUC-JFK be in J?
52K + YQ

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #104 on: October 20, 2015, 11:14:51 AM »
I may be there 11/17 with a friend. I do appreciate the offer. If you are around, may take you upon it!

PMd you .

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #105 on: December 04, 2015, 02:53:47 PM »
I have 55K Miles & More miles, that I'd like to use on a J ticket from LAX-TLV. I'm short 12K, what's the easiest way to get them in? SPG? I heard that takes a while. Or is there something else I should be doing? The actual traveler does live in Israel, is there a way for him to book for 52K or did I misunderstand that?

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #106 on: December 04, 2015, 03:14:36 PM »
I have 55K Miles & More miles, that I'd like to use on a J ticket from LAX-TLV. I'm short 12K, what's the easiest way to get them in? SPG? I heard that takes a while. Or is there something else I should be doing? The actual traveler does live in Israel, is there a way for him to book for 52K or did I misunderstand that?
You can do TLV-LAX for that amount.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #107 on: December 04, 2015, 04:59:54 PM »
You can do TLV-LAX for that amount.
perfect, changed to israeli address, and that worked. thanks

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #108 on: December 04, 2015, 05:26:22 PM »
I have 55K Miles & More miles, that I'd like to use on a J ticket from LAX-TLV. I'm short 12K, what's the easiest way to get them in? SPG? I heard that takes a while. Or is there something else I should be doing? The actual traveler does live in Israel, is there a way for him to book for 52K or did I misunderstand that?

You can do TLV-LAX for that amount.
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Did you mean LAX -TLV ?

perfect, changed to israeli address, and that worked. thanks

Thought you needed LAX To TLV . Confused again 😙 unless Joe4007 meant LAX-TLV

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #109 on: December 04, 2015, 05:32:18 PM »
Thought you needed LAX To TLV . Confused again 😙 unless Joe4007 meant LAX-TLV
You're right,  I needed both.  Thanks!

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #110 on: December 05, 2015, 04:14:36 AM »
You're right,  I needed both.  Thanks!

Great . subscribe to this thread and got card 2x . Any other sweet spots aside from TLV ?

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #111 on: December 05, 2015, 11:11:57 AM »
Great . subscribe to this thread and got card 2x . Any other sweet spots aside from TLV ?

AMM-USA for 52k in J (if you're address is in Jordan).

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #112 on: February 09, 2016, 06:46:08 PM »
Can I book a points+cash ticket on SWISS through miles and more?

Can I transfer Amex points to m&m at 1:1?

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #113 on: February 09, 2016, 06:48:04 PM »
AMM-USA for 52k in J (if you're address is in Jordan).

Out of curiosity, is your address in Jordan :)

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #114 on: February 10, 2016, 02:14:08 AM »
Out of curiosity, is your address in Jordan :)

No :)

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #115 on: February 10, 2016, 04:18:10 AM »
Can I book a points+cash ticket on SWISS through miles and more?

Can I transfer Amex points to m&m at 1:1?

No. No.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #116 on: February 10, 2016, 04:24:47 AM »
Can I book a points+cash ticket on SWISS through miles and more?

Can I transfer Amex points to m&m at 1:1?
SPG is the only currency which transfers to M&M!

(Lately even this option has become risky, as it seems they are specifically auditing accounts with SPG transfer)

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #117 on: February 10, 2016, 04:29:16 AM »
Is there any way to book a points+cash ticket on SWISS airlines through any website or over the phone?

If I have miles from LH/LOT can I combine them with AMEX points to book?

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« Reply #118 on: February 10, 2016, 04:41:15 AM »
If I have miles from LH/LOT can I combine them with AMEX points to book?

You can transfer MR to SPG at 3:1 and then SPG to LH at 20:25.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #119 on: February 10, 2016, 04:49:21 AM »
You can transfer MR to SPG at 3:1 and then SPG to LH at 20:25.

Not the best value... is the transfer value better to M&M than LH?