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-The Lufthansa Premier Miles & More World MasterCard
You can enroll in the Miles & More program here.

US to Israel: For departures from the USA nonstop to Tel Aviv: 80K coach, 135K business. For departures from the USA to Tel Aviv via Europe: 100K coach, 185K business, 290K first. For departures from Israel to the USA nonstop or via Europe for Miles & More accounts with an Israeli address on file: 60K coach, 105K business, 170K first.

The card has no foreign exchange fees.
Lufthansa miles have a few sweet uses:

3 one-way domestic first class flights on United:
You can fly on Star Alliance partner United in domestic first class for just 17,000 miles each way with no fuel surcharges.  All United flights between JFK and Los Angeles or S. Francisco and several flights from Newark have lie-flat seats in business class.  Plus you can still order hot kosher meals between JFK and Los Angeles or S. Francisco in business class.  United charges 25,000 of their own miles each way for these seats, so youíll save 8,000 miles each way via Lufthansa. Within 24 hours Lufthansa does allow free cancellations even on United medal.

Remember to book one-way flights as a round-trip business class is 35,000 but they charge half the price and round down for one-way so itís only 17,000 each way.

4 one-way coach tickets:
A one-way coach ticket within the US on United will run 12,000 miles.

Business class to Europe:

Business class to Europe is 52,000 miles each way and there are no fuel surcharges on Lot Polish which flies 787s with an excellent lie-flat business class to Warsaw. (Note that United.com canít search for LOT Polish flights if you use that to search for Star Alliance awards).
Availability is excellent.

Hawaii:

Business class to Hawaii (including lie-flat seats on flights from Houston and Newark) is just 35,000 miles each way when booked with Lufthansa miles flying on United with no fuel surcharges.  Thatís a 10,000 mile savings on a round-trip flight compared to using United miles.
Coach is 20K miles each way, a 5,000 mile savings on a round-trip flight compared to using United miles.

Israel based account:
If your Lufthansa account is registered with an Israeli address then you can book tickets from Israel using the much cheaper Europe award rates.  A flight from Israel to the US will be prices like a flight from Europe to the US. (now must call to get this rate)

Other uses:
Lufthansa First Class has significantly better availability when booked with Miles & More as opposed to programs like United.
There is also much better availability on other airlines like Singaporeís top-notch business class when booked via Miles & More as opposed to programs like United.
Barclays cards can be churned, so you can always start saving up for a dream trip.

Mileage Expiration
Miles expire after 36 months, regardless of activity. If you have a Miles & More credit card and use it monthly, then your miles will not expire.
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #160 on: May 27, 2016, 08:23:44 AM »
Searching for MIA-FRA-HKG in F on AC/UA with no problem within 2 weeks, and wanted to search for longer out on M&M  but nothing shows up. Even the flights that show up on AC/UA within 2 weeks are not showing up on M&M.  :-\

Any idea why?
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #161 on: May 27, 2016, 09:12:22 AM »
Searching for MIA-FRA-HKG in F on AC/UA with no problem within 2 weeks, and wanted to search for longer out on M&M  but nothing shows up. Even the flights that show up on AC/UA within 2 weeks are not showing up on M&M.  :-\

Any idea why?
Phantom? Try clicking through on AC.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #162 on: May 27, 2016, 09:22:01 AM »
Phantom? Try clicking through on AC.

I don't have enough miles to book it so I can only select it before it prompts me that I don't have enough miles but I have not heard of much phantom space for LH F when it comes to AC.
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #163 on: May 27, 2016, 09:37:40 AM »
I don't have enough miles to book it so I can only select it before it prompts me that I don't have enough miles but I have not heard of much phantom space for LH F when it comes to AC.
I've had a lot of issues with LH J.

You can PM me if you'd like to give me the flight numbers.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #164 on: June 02, 2016, 06:34:58 PM »
if a flight on lx/ua shows on all other sites, what is the reason they dont show on Milesmore site? Is it a matter of just calling them?

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #165 on: June 02, 2016, 07:49:30 PM »
if a flight on lx/ua shows on all other sites, what is the reason they dont show on Milesmore site? Is it a matter of just calling them?
Miles and More does not show partner availability on their site. Need to call in to book.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #166 on: June 02, 2016, 07:51:45 PM »
Thanks!

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #167 on: June 03, 2016, 02:07:11 PM »
Miles and More does not show partner availability on their site. Need to call in to book.

I SAW LX flights for award travel on LH site

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #168 on: June 04, 2016, 05:22:50 AM »
I SAW LX flights for award travel on LH site
LX is part of m&m

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #169 on: June 04, 2016, 05:51:47 AM »
LX is part of m&m

YES  lx  show up on M&M SITE---My reply was to  the WRONG info posted by elya below

Quote from: elya on June 02, 2016, 07:49:30 PM

    Miles and More does not show partner availability on their site. Need to call in to book.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #170 on: June 04, 2016, 02:23:29 PM »
YES  lx  show up on M&M SITE---My reply was to  the WRONG info posted by elya below

Quote from: elya on June 02, 2016, 07:49:30 PM

    Miles and More does not show partner availability on their site. Need to call in to book.
Now if LX is part of M&M and thereby not partner, What about my post is wrong info exactly?

I was actually contemplating adding to my original post that LH, LX, OS, and SN are all part of part of M&M and would therefore show online, as opposed to UA (which is what OP asked about) and the like which are partners, and would thereby necessitate calling in to book.

But I figured the folks around here are knowledgeable enough to understand what I meant, I am sorry to have been proven wrong in this regard.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #171 on: June 04, 2016, 03:07:52 PM »
"But I figured the folks around here are knowledgeable enough to understand what I meant, I am sorry to have been proven wrong in this regard."

so your a  nasty smart ass too
not worth my time to reply-

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #172 on: June 04, 2016, 04:35:10 PM »
"But I figured the folks around here are knowledgeable enough to understand what I meant, I am sorry to have been proven wrong in this regard."

so your a  nasty smart ass too
not worth my time to reply-
How about you think twice next time before posting in Bold Capital letters that misinformation was posted, when in fact its just your ignorance.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #173 on: June 06, 2016, 01:14:27 PM »
I have a J ticket on LH and was waitlisted for F by a supervisor in the California call center. Does anyone have experience with M&M waitlist? They say they can only do it for F, not J.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #174 on: June 18, 2016, 08:22:46 PM »
Does changing the address to Israel still help to pay less miles ?

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #175 on: June 19, 2016, 02:54:34 AM »
Does changing the address to Israel still help to pay less miles ?
Yes. Only ex-TLV though.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #176 on: June 19, 2016, 04:50:32 AM »
Yes. Only ex-TLV though.
Thanx, do they allow one way redemptions ?

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #177 on: June 19, 2016, 04:54:17 AM »
Thanx, do they allow one way redemptions ?
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #178 on: June 27, 2016, 03:41:02 PM »
can i book a award flght for a friend with my m&m isreali add.?

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #179 on: July 05, 2016, 04:17:32 PM »
shalom chaverim!
i got a question that might be kind of tough to answer..
what is a good use for m&m miles?
the flights to euro carry over 600$ taxes?!
i dont get it! whats the point?

i live in ny & have family in israel.
got 36k.

any info \ clarity will be greatly appreciated!

thanks