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-The Lufthansa Premier Miles & More World MasterCard
You can enroll in the Miles & More program here.

US to Israel: For departures from the USA nonstop to Tel Aviv: 80K coach, 135K business. For departures from the USA to Tel Aviv via Europe: 100K coach, 185K business, 290K first. For departures from Israel to the USA nonstop or via Europe for Miles & More accounts with an Israeli address on file: 60K coach, 105K business, 170K first.

The card has no foreign exchange fees.
Lufthansa miles have a few sweet uses:

3 one-way domestic first class flights on United:
You can fly on Star Alliance partner United in domestic first class for just 17,000 miles each way with no fuel surcharges.  All United flights between JFK and Los Angeles or S. Francisco and several flights from Newark have lie-flat seats in business class.  Plus you can still order hot kosher meals between JFK and Los Angeles or S. Francisco in business class.  United charges 25,000 of their own miles each way for these seats, so youíll save 8,000 miles each way via Lufthansa. Within 24 hours Lufthansa does allow free cancellations even on United medal.

Remember to book one-way flights as a round-trip business class is 35,000 but they charge half the price and round down for one-way so itís only 17,000 each way.

4 one-way coach tickets:
A one-way coach ticket within the US on United will run 12,000 miles.

Business class to Europe:

Business class to Europe is 52,000 miles each way and there are no fuel surcharges on Lot Polish which flies 787s with an excellent lie-flat business class to Warsaw. (Note that United.com canít search for LOT Polish flights if you use that to search for Star Alliance awards).
Availability is excellent.

Hawaii:

Business class to Hawaii (including lie-flat seats on flights from Houston and Newark) is just 35,000 miles each way when booked with Lufthansa miles flying on United with no fuel surcharges.  Thatís a 10,000 mile savings on a round-trip flight compared to using United miles.
Coach is 20K miles each way, a 5,000 mile savings on a round-trip flight compared to using United miles.

Israel based account:
If your Lufthansa account is registered with an Israeli address then you can book tickets from Israel using the much cheaper Europe award rates.  A flight from Israel to the US will be prices like a flight from Europe to the US. (now must call to get this rate)

Other uses:
Lufthansa First Class has significantly better availability when booked with Miles & More as opposed to programs like United.
There is also much better availability on other airlines like Singaporeís top-notch business class when booked via Miles & More as opposed to programs like United.
Barclays cards can be churned, so you can always start saving up for a dream trip.

Mileage Expiration
Miles expire after 36 months, regardless of activity. If you have a Miles & More credit card and use it monthly, then your miles will not expire.
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #180 on: July 05, 2016, 05:14:25 PM »
shalom chaverim!
i got a question that might be kind of tough to answer..
what is a good use for m&m miles?
the flights to euro carry over 600$ taxes?!
i dont get it! whats the point?

i live in ny & have family in israel.
got 36k.

any info \ clarity will be greatly appreciated!

thanks
34-5K gets you a domestic RT in business on United.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #181 on: July 05, 2016, 06:07:13 PM »
34-5K gets you a domestic RT in business on United.

great! thank you!
any advice on how to search and  book that?

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #182 on: July 05, 2016, 06:11:00 PM »
great! thank you!
any advice on how to search and  book that?
Search on United for business saver awards and call miles and more to book.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #183 on: July 05, 2016, 06:24:08 PM »
can i book a award flght for a friend with my m&m isreali add.?
Yes.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #184 on: July 05, 2016, 06:52:28 PM »
Search on United for business saver awards and call miles and more to book.
do i need to have a MileagePlus account in order to search?

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #185 on: July 05, 2016, 06:56:06 PM »
No.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #186 on: July 05, 2016, 07:19:29 PM »
No.
joe, thank you so much for your reply. every time!
can you explain the difference btwn saver and standard award?
 am i better off choosing a flight that is available for saver award?
or is it all the same to m&m?

and also, when i call m&m, what exactly do i say? do i give them the dates and flight #? just dates?
anything else i need to know?
 (this is my first time booking an award 8))   


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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #187 on: July 05, 2016, 07:27:26 PM »


joe, thank you so much for your reply. every time!
can you explain the difference btwn saver and standard award?
 am i better off choosing a flight that is available for saver award?
or is it all the same to m&m?

and also, when i call m&m, what exactly do i say? do i give them the dates and flight #? just dates?
anything else i need to know?
 (this is my first time booking an award 8))
Glad to help.

Partners only have access to saver awards, so that's what you need to look for.

Either should work.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #188 on: July 05, 2016, 07:45:09 PM »
ok, great!
one last question for now: :D
on united some flights show miles +5.60. some show miles +11.20 and some miles +86.20.
how does that play out with m&m?

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #189 on: July 05, 2016, 08:02:28 PM »


ok, great!
one last question for now: :D
on united some flights show miles +5.60. some show miles +11.20 and some miles +86.20.
how does that play out with m&m?

Lol. The $5.60 flights are probably one way, the $11.20 round-trip, and the $86.20 is a round-trip within 21 days that they're charging a $75 close in fee (which is irrelevant to you).
Who do you think you are fooling? You think you are going to pull a quick one on your Creator? Good luck with that.
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #190 on: July 06, 2016, 12:41:35 AM »
did anyone here ever book a companion ticket?

i mean: is it a real thing?  do you really get 2 tickets for the price of one

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #191 on: July 10, 2016, 05:09:40 PM »
Do m&m. Miles expire after 3 years regardless of activity ?

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #192 on: July 10, 2016, 10:10:49 PM »
Do m&m. Miles expire after 3 years regardless of activity ?
Unless you have their CC.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #193 on: August 01, 2016, 05:47:53 PM »
Does changing the address to Israel still help to pay less miles ?
Is it totally safe to do this?

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« Reply #194 on: August 01, 2016, 05:52:47 PM »
Is it totally safe to do this?
There is a higher risk of them asking you to send in a copy of AH passport, and proof of address in some instances (their version of auditing the account) if you are booking for a 3rd party.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #195 on: August 02, 2016, 01:18:53 PM »
which M&M number do i use as my "frequent flyer" number when transferring SPG points? is the it the 15 digit "card number" or there is another 9 digit number associated with the account?

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« Reply #196 on: August 02, 2016, 01:29:14 PM »
which M&M number do i use as my "frequent flyer" number when transferring SPG points? is the it the 15 digit "card number" or there is another 9 digit number associated with the account?
That.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #197 on: August 02, 2016, 01:53:52 PM »
Thank you

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #198 on: September 06, 2016, 10:37:39 AM »
Any way to extend the lifetime of miles n more points ? Got 55k expiring end of September

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #199 on: September 06, 2016, 10:43:57 AM »
Any way to extend the lifetime of miles n more points ? Got 55k expiring end of September

And your card is closed?