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-The Lufthansa Premier Miles & More World MasterCard
You can enroll in the Miles & More program here.

US to Israel: For departures from the USA nonstop to Tel Aviv: 80K coach, 135K business. For departures from the USA to Tel Aviv via Europe: 100K coach, 185K business, 290K first. For departures from Israel to the USA nonstop or via Europe for Miles & More accounts with an Israeli address on file: 60K coach, 105K business, 170K first.

The card has no foreign exchange fees.
Lufthansa miles have a few sweet uses:

3 one-way domestic first class flights on United:
You can fly on Star Alliance partner United in domestic first class for just 17,000 miles each way with no fuel surcharges.  All United flights between JFK and Los Angeles or S. Francisco and several flights from Newark have lie-flat seats in business class.  Plus you can still order hot kosher meals between JFK and Los Angeles or S. Francisco in business class.  United charges 25,000 of their own miles each way for these seats, so you’ll save 8,000 miles each way via Lufthansa. Within 24 hours Lufthansa does allow free cancellations even on United medal.

Remember to book one-way flights as a round-trip business class is 35,000 but they charge half the price and round down for one-way so it’s only 17,000 each way.

4 one-way coach tickets:
A one-way coach ticket within the US on United will run 12,000 miles.

Business class to Europe:

Business class to Europe is 52,000 miles each way and there are no fuel surcharges on Lot Polish which flies 787s with an excellent lie-flat business class to Warsaw. (Note that United.com can’t search for LOT Polish flights if you use that to search for Star Alliance awards).
Availability is excellent.

Hawaii:

Business class to Hawaii (including lie-flat seats on flights from Houston and Newark) is just 35,000 miles each way when booked with Lufthansa miles flying on United with no fuel surcharges.  That’s a 10,000 mile savings on a round-trip flight compared to using United miles.
Coach is 20K miles each way, a 5,000 mile savings on a round-trip flight compared to using United miles.

Israel based account:
If your Lufthansa account is registered with an Israeli address then you can book tickets from Israel using the much cheaper Europe award rates.  A flight from Israel to the US will be prices like a flight from Europe to the US. (now must call to get this rate)

Other uses:
Lufthansa First Class has significantly better availability when booked with Miles & More as opposed to programs like United.
There is also much better availability on other airlines like Singapore’s top-notch business class when booked via Miles & More as opposed to programs like United.
Barclays cards can be churned, so you can always start saving up for a dream trip.

Mileage Expiration
Miles expire after 36 months, regardless of activity. If you have a Miles & More credit card and use it monthly, then your miles will not expire.
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #220 on: September 08, 2016, 02:00:58 PM »
Thanx. Any difference economy or business ?
Don't think so.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #221 on: September 08, 2016, 02:06:43 PM »
Don't think so.
Thanx for your help.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #222 on: September 09, 2016, 01:30:35 PM »
How much miles is nyc-tlv? and how much tax on swiss business class?

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #224 on: September 19, 2016, 11:13:19 PM »
Just a data point, seems as if with M&M you can get practically any and every seat with miles even if there is only one or two left for sale.
I just booked using my miles for LX in j from TLV for 2 seats, and these are the last few available on that flight.
 

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #225 on: September 20, 2016, 03:37:14 AM »
Just a data point, seems as if with M&M you can get practically any and every seat with miles even if there is only one or two left for sale.
I just booked using my miles for LX in j from TLV for 2 seats, and these are the last few available on that flight.
And the flight I want has over 20 seats available for sale, but none for mileage.

There is no generalization with these things..

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #226 on: September 23, 2016, 04:30:02 PM »
Earn 6,000 M&M Miles for 20 Euro - http://www.mightytravels.com/2016/09/earn-6000-lufthansa-miles-more-miles-for-22-48-with-mtx-connect-just-0-4-cents-per-mile/.

Card received in the mail, and topped up today with 20 euro. Per the T&C 6,000 miles should post in 3 days but can take up to 4 weeks.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #227 on: September 26, 2016, 10:44:41 PM »
Card received in the mail, and topped up today with 20 euro. Per the T&C 6,000 miles should post in 3 days but can take up to 4 weeks.

The 5,000 miles already posted to account for 20 euro.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #228 on: September 27, 2016, 02:23:02 AM »
We can order and be rewarded in the US? Did you use any type of European address?

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #229 on: September 27, 2016, 05:43:56 AM »
We can order and be rewarded in the US? Did you use any type of European address?

Yup works perfect in US, no Europe address needed.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #230 on: September 27, 2016, 08:12:54 AM »
The 5,000 miles already posted to account for 20 euro.
5k or 6k?

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #231 on: September 27, 2016, 08:33:57 AM »
Card received in the mail, and topped up today with 20 euro. Per the T&C 6,000 miles should post in 3 days but can take up to 4 weeks.
Wanted to order, but (1) they wanted 5€ just for ordering, and (2) noticed the following in the T&C: This marketing offer valid for the first 1000 ordered SIM-cards.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #232 on: September 27, 2016, 08:53:44 AM »
5k or 6k?

It's 5,000 for doing the first top up of 20 euro, and 50 for every euro loaded, so if both of them combine, another 1,000 should post soon.

Wanted to order, but (1) they wanted 5€ just for ordering, and (2) noticed the following in the T&C: This marketing offer valid for the first 1000 ordered SIM-cards.

Saw that too on the limit, wouldn't they remove the page to show the promo? Didn't have to pay a fee to request the card, and it was sent quickly.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #233 on: September 27, 2016, 08:55:03 AM »
Wanted to order, but (1) they wanted 5€ just for ordering.

Still not seeing charge http://miles.mtxc.eu/en/order/.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #234 on: September 27, 2016, 09:04:01 AM »
Still not seeing charge http://miles.mtxc.eu/en/order/.
go through with the order and you will see it

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #235 on: September 27, 2016, 12:08:36 PM »
Is the fee to switch from OS to LX/LH €50?

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« Reply #236 on: September 27, 2016, 12:12:17 PM »
Is the fee to switch from OS to LX/LH €50?
€50

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« Reply #237 on: September 27, 2016, 12:14:20 PM »

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #238 on: October 13, 2016, 11:32:13 AM »
my points expire at the end of December, any way to keep them active? i just got a barclay arrival plus card a few weeks ago so not sure if i would be able to get a new m&m before then :/ 

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #239 on: October 19, 2016, 08:47:50 AM »
How much is TLV-NYC in F booked from a m&m account with Israeli address?