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-The Lufthansa Premier Miles & More World MasterCard
You can enroll in the Miles & More program here.

US to Israel: For departures from the USA nonstop to Tel Aviv: 80K coach, 135K business. For departures from the USA to Tel Aviv via Europe: 100K coach, 185K business, 290K first. For departures from Israel to the USA nonstop or via Europe for Miles & More accounts with an Israeli address on file: 60K coach, 105K business, 170K first.

The card has no foreign exchange fees.
Lufthansa miles have a few sweet uses:

3 one-way domestic first class flights on United:
You can fly on Star Alliance partner United in domestic first class for just 17,000 miles each way with no fuel surcharges.  All United flights between JFK and Los Angeles or S. Francisco and several flights from Newark have lie-flat seats in business class.  Plus you can still order hot kosher meals between JFK and Los Angeles or S. Francisco in business class.  United charges 25,000 of their own miles each way for these seats, so you’ll save 8,000 miles each way via Lufthansa. Within 24 hours Lufthansa does allow free cancellations even on United medal.

Remember to book one-way flights as a round-trip business class is 35,000 but they charge half the price and round down for one-way so it’s only 17,000 each way.

4 one-way coach tickets:
A one-way coach ticket within the US on United will run 12,000 miles.

Business class to Europe:

Business class to Europe is 52,000 miles each way and there are no fuel surcharges on Lot Polish which flies 787s with an excellent lie-flat business class to Warsaw. (Note that United.com can’t search for LOT Polish flights if you use that to search for Star Alliance awards).
Availability is excellent.

Hawaii:

Business class to Hawaii (including lie-flat seats on flights from Houston and Newark) is just 35,000 miles each way when booked with Lufthansa miles flying on United with no fuel surcharges.  That’s a 10,000 mile savings on a round-trip flight compared to using United miles.
Coach is 20K miles each way, a 5,000 mile savings on a round-trip flight compared to using United miles.

Israel based account:
If your Lufthansa account is registered with an Israeli address then you can book tickets from Israel using the much cheaper Europe award rates.  A flight from Israel to the US will be prices like a flight from Europe to the US. (now must call to get this rate)

Other uses:
Lufthansa First Class has significantly better availability when booked with Miles & More as opposed to programs like United.
There is also much better availability on other airlines like Singapore’s top-notch business class when booked via Miles & More as opposed to programs like United.
Barclays cards can be churned, so you can always start saving up for a dream trip.

Mileage Expiration
Miles expire after 36 months, regardless of activity. If you have a Miles & More credit card and use it monthly, then your miles will not expire.
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #240 on: October 19, 2016, 09:07:49 AM »
How much is TLV-NYC in F booked from a m&m account with Israeli address?
should be 85k ow plus yq

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #241 on: October 19, 2016, 09:25:31 AM »
Tnx

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #242 on: October 19, 2016, 10:19:29 AM »
Card received in the mail, and topped up today with 20 euro. Per the T&C 6,000 miles should post in 3 days but can take up to 4 weeks.
Got my miles 3 days after i topped up. Thanks
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #243 on: October 19, 2016, 10:30:31 AM »
Got my miles 3 days after i topped up. Thanks

Great, glad someone else got to benefit too.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #244 on: October 19, 2016, 11:39:29 AM »
Great, glad someone else got to benefit too.
Just bought another one for my daughter's account. Does this extend life of all miles or do you still need to spend monthly on cc to extend or earn from revenue. I messed up and missed a month on my cc. 
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« Reply #245 on: October 19, 2016, 11:49:46 AM »
Just bought another one for my daughter's account. Does this extend life of all miles or do you still need to spend monthly on cc to extend or earn from revenue. I messed up and missed a month on my cc.
its still alive?

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #246 on: October 19, 2016, 12:37:09 PM »
its still alive?
Until Jan 8 according to the link
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #247 on: October 19, 2016, 06:17:00 PM »
What's the best way to top off an account now 2-5k?

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« Reply #248 on: October 19, 2016, 06:20:55 PM »
What's the best way to top off an account now 2-5k?
transfer from spg

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Miles and more
« Reply #249 on: October 19, 2016, 06:22:27 PM »
transfer from spg


Different names

Cc was closed....

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« Reply #250 on: October 19, 2016, 06:32:04 PM »

Different names

Cc was closed....
i guess your only other option is to use their shopping portal or maybe the calling card thing mentioned above. Or sign up for their credit card but those aren't quick.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #251 on: October 19, 2016, 06:50:33 PM »
Is there an expiration for the calling card thing?

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« Reply #252 on: October 19, 2016, 06:56:07 PM »
Is there an expiration for the calling card thing?
look up

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #253 on: October 19, 2016, 07:37:40 PM »
look up

It appears it ended at September 30, for the 5k but 50 points per dollar is still valid

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #254 on: October 19, 2016, 11:22:06 PM »
It appears it ended at September 30, for the 5k but 50 points per dollar is still valid
Free SIM ended then. Now its 5 Euro for the SIM and first load should get you 5k until January
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #255 on: October 20, 2016, 12:25:30 AM »
Free SIM ended then. Now its 5 Euro for the SIM and first load should get you 5k until January


Any way to confirm this?

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #256 on: October 20, 2016, 06:04:28 PM »
Can a m&m award hold expire anytime like sq, or is it guaranteed for the hold period?

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #257 on: October 31, 2016, 12:32:11 PM »
How much would YQ be for LH F OW, NYC-FRA-YLV ?
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« Reply #258 on: October 31, 2016, 02:55:36 PM »
How much would YQ be for LH F OW, NYC-FRA-YLV ?
Using M&M?
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« Reply #259 on: October 31, 2016, 03:05:05 PM »
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