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DDMS: The Best Cards From Barclays Bank

-The Lufthansa Premier Miles & More World MasterCard
You can enroll in the Miles & More program here.

US to Israel: For departures from the USA nonstop to Tel Aviv: 80K coach, 135K business. For departures from the USA to Tel Aviv via Europe: 100K coach, 185K business, 290K first. For departures from Israel to the USA nonstop or via Europe for Miles & More accounts with an Israeli address on file: 60K coach, 105K business, 170K first.

The card has no foreign exchange fees.
Lufthansa miles have a few sweet uses:

3 one-way domestic first class flights on United:
You can fly on Star Alliance partner United in domestic first class for just 17,000 miles each way with no fuel surcharges.  All United flights between JFK and Los Angeles or S. Francisco and several flights from Newark have lie-flat seats in business class.  Plus you can still order hot kosher meals between JFK and Los Angeles or S. Francisco in business class.  United charges 25,000 of their own miles each way for these seats, so you’ll save 8,000 miles each way via Lufthansa. Within 24 hours Lufthansa does allow free cancellations even on United medal.

Remember to book one-way flights as a round-trip business class is 35,000 but they charge half the price and round down for one-way so it’s only 17,000 each way.

4 one-way coach tickets:
A one-way coach ticket within the US on United will run 12,000 miles.

Business class to Europe:

Business class to Europe is 52,000 miles each way and there are no fuel surcharges on Lot Polish which flies 787s with an excellent lie-flat business class to Warsaw. (Note that United.com can’t search for LOT Polish flights if you use that to search for Star Alliance awards).
Availability is excellent.

Hawaii:

Business class to Hawaii (including lie-flat seats on flights from Houston and Newark) is just 35,000 miles each way when booked with Lufthansa miles flying on United with no fuel surcharges.  That’s a 10,000 mile savings on a round-trip flight compared to using United miles.
Coach is 20K miles each way, a 5,000 mile savings on a round-trip flight compared to using United miles.

Israel based account:
If your Lufthansa account is registered with an Israeli address then you can book tickets from Israel using the much cheaper Europe award rates.  A flight from Israel to the US will be prices like a flight from Europe to the US. (now must call to get this rate)

Other uses:
Lufthansa First Class has significantly better availability when booked with Miles & More as opposed to programs like United.
There is also much better availability on other airlines like Singapore’s top-notch business class when booked via Miles & More as opposed to programs like United.
Barclays cards can be churned, so you can always start saving up for a dream trip.

Mileage Expiration
Miles expire after 36 months, regardless of activity. If you have a Miles & More credit card and use it monthly, then your miles will not expire.
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #260 on: October 31, 2016, 04:55:11 PM »
How much would YQ be for LH F OW, NYC-FRA-YLV ?
I assume you mean TLV

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #261 on: November 07, 2016, 09:27:32 PM »
Is there an expiration for the calling card thing?
It appears it ended at September 30, for the 5k but 50 points per dollar is still valid
Free SIM ended then. Now its 5 Euro for the SIM and first load should get you 5k until January


Any way to confirm this?
Just got 5k M&M posted on SIM purchased after September 30

Seems like its churnable. Giddyup!!!
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #262 on: November 07, 2016, 10:23:42 PM »
Just got 5k M&M posted on SIM purchased after September 30

Seems like its churnable. Giddyup!!!
You've gotten more than one 5K?
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #263 on: November 07, 2016, 11:17:13 PM »
You've gotten more than one 5K?
you can have more than 1 account
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #264 on: November 07, 2016, 11:23:35 PM »
you can have more than 1 account
more than one M&M or more than one sim account?
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #265 on: November 08, 2016, 11:54:09 AM »
Just got 5k M&M posted on SIM purchased after September 30

Seems like its churnable. Giddyup!!!

What are the costs currently?
Link?

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #266 on: November 08, 2016, 02:29:45 PM »
What are the costs currently?
Link?
Same link as above. 5€ for SIM and 20€ for 5k
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #267 on: November 08, 2016, 02:30:07 PM »
Same link as above. 5€ for SIM and 20€ for 5k


Awesome thanks!

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« Reply #268 on: November 08, 2016, 02:30:13 PM »
more than one M&M or more than one sim account?
M&M
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #269 on: November 08, 2016, 02:46:41 PM »
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #270 on: November 09, 2016, 07:54:34 AM »
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #272 on: November 09, 2016, 12:28:34 PM »
whats the best use of expiring miles if i don't plan to use them for flights before expiration date?

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #273 on: November 09, 2016, 12:29:12 PM »
whats the best use of expiring miles if i don't plan to use them for flights before expiration date?

How many?

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #274 on: November 09, 2016, 02:19:55 PM »
How many?

approx 55,000 in account and 21,000 in another

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #275 on: November 09, 2016, 02:35:59 PM »
approx 55,000 in account and 21,000 in another

Easiest is to sell them. 55k you should have no problem selling. 21 I  don't know of anything you can use for...

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #276 on: November 09, 2016, 05:10:47 PM »
Easiest is to sell them. 55k you should have no problem selling. 21 I  don't know of anything you can use for...

except for selling what are the best alternatives?

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #277 on: November 09, 2016, 05:12:32 PM »
except for selling what are the best alternatives?
Vacation!

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #278 on: November 10, 2016, 09:12:57 AM »
Vacation!

Not sure if i can fly before expiration date.  Wanted to know other good uses with these miles or are they strictly for flights only

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #279 on: November 15, 2016, 01:21:25 AM »
Can anyone confirm M&M rate for business from TLV-NYC with an israeli address is 52K one way? everything is coming up for me at 92K one way