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-The Lufthansa Premier Miles & More World MasterCard
You can enroll in the Miles & More program here.

US to Israel: For departures from the USA nonstop to Tel Aviv: 80K coach, 135K business. For departures from the USA to Tel Aviv via Europe: 100K coach, 185K business, 290K first. For departures from Israel to the USA nonstop or via Europe for Miles & More accounts with an Israeli address on file: 60K coach, 105K business, 170K first.

The card has no foreign exchange fees.
Lufthansa miles have a few sweet uses:

3 one-way domestic first class flights on United:
You can fly on Star Alliance partner United in domestic first class for just 17,000 miles each way with no fuel surcharges.  All United flights between JFK and Los Angeles or S. Francisco and several flights from Newark have lie-flat seats in business class.  Plus you can still order hot kosher meals between JFK and Los Angeles or S. Francisco in business class.  United charges 25,000 of their own miles each way for these seats, so youíll save 8,000 miles each way via Lufthansa. Within 24 hours Lufthansa does allow free cancellations even on United medal.

Remember to book one-way flights as a round-trip business class is 35,000 but they charge half the price and round down for one-way so itís only 17,000 each way.

4 one-way coach tickets:
A one-way coach ticket within the US on United will run 12,000 miles.

Business class to Europe:

Business class to Europe is 52,000 miles each way and there are no fuel surcharges on Lot Polish which flies 787s with an excellent lie-flat business class to Warsaw. (Note that United.com canít search for LOT Polish flights if you use that to search for Star Alliance awards).
Availability is excellent.

Hawaii:

Business class to Hawaii (including lie-flat seats on flights from Houston and Newark) is just 35,000 miles each way when booked with Lufthansa miles flying on United with no fuel surcharges.  Thatís a 10,000 mile savings on a round-trip flight compared to using United miles.
Coach is 20K miles each way, a 5,000 mile savings on a round-trip flight compared to using United miles.

Israel based account:
If your Lufthansa account is registered with an Israeli address then you can book tickets from Israel using the much cheaper Europe award rates.  A flight from Israel to the US will be prices like a flight from Europe to the US. (now must call to get this rate)

Other uses:
Lufthansa First Class has significantly better availability when booked with Miles & More as opposed to programs like United.
There is also much better availability on other airlines like Singaporeís top-notch business class when booked via Miles & More as opposed to programs like United.
Barclays cards can be churned, so you can always start saving up for a dream trip.
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #345 on: June 20, 2017, 01:08:24 PM »
Then chances are it's not closed. Call the Germany office and see what's going on.

Thanks you, you were correct. Took a month to sort it out. Not sure what the issue was, could be award wallet trying to login with wrong info or possibly account really was compromised.

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« Reply #346 on: June 20, 2017, 01:38:57 PM »
Thanks you, you were correct. Took a month to sort it out. Not sure what the issue was, could be award wallet trying to login with wrong info or possibly account really was compromised.
Ye they are a HUGE PITA to deal with. But glad it worked out for you in the end.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #347 on: August 02, 2017, 04:08:26 PM »
Is there phantom availability on M&M? Was looking for EWR-TLV and it gives me a valid routing for EWR-MUC-TLV bookable online but phone reps cannot find the same availability. Cant seem to replicate the MUC-TLV portion online either. Is there a better number than the US customer service line which seems to be German anyway?

Also wondering why NYC-MUC-TLV is 92k in J,  but if you split it up into NYC-MUC is 52k and MUC-TLV is 35k in J. with slightly more YQ. 
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #348 on: August 02, 2017, 04:43:51 PM »
Is there phantom availability on M&M? Was looking for EWR-TLV and it gives me a valid routing for EWR-MUC-TLV bookable online but phone reps cannot find the same availability. Cant seem to replicate the MUC-TLV portion online either. Is there a better number than the US customer service line which seems to be German anyway?

Also wondering why NYC-MUC-TLV is 92k in J,  but if you split it up into NYC-MUC is 52k and MUC-TLV is 35k in J. with slightly more YQ.
My experience is that there can be phantom, but the lack of ability to find the second flight on its own is not proof that it is
HUCA a few times and ask them to search each leg individually (even though it's not showing for you that way)
No idea about your second question
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« Reply #349 on: August 02, 2017, 04:55:21 PM »
My experience is that there can be phantom, but the lack of ability to find the second flight on its own is not proof that it is
HUCA a few times and ask them to search each leg individually (even though it's not showing for you that way)
No idea about your second question
Thanks. They dont see either route. Will HUCA
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« Reply #350 on: August 03, 2017, 11:34:54 AM »
Is there phantom availability on M&M? Was looking for EWR-TLV and it gives me a valid routing for EWR-MUC-TLV bookable online but phone reps cannot find the same availability. Cant seem to replicate the MUC-TLV portion online either. Is there a better number than the US customer service line which seems to be German anyway?

Also wondering why NYC-MUC-TLV is 92k in J,  but if you split it up into NYC-MUC is 52k and MUC-TLV is 35k in J. with slightly more YQ.
And the answer is...the dreaded married segment.  >:( >:( >:(
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #351 on: August 09, 2017, 01:59:41 PM »
why am I only seeing flex award pricing on the website, even though the tickets are bookable on united.com?   (and it's not phantom availability, it's on austrian.)

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« Reply #352 on: August 09, 2017, 02:07:46 PM »
why am I only seeing flex award pricing on the website, even though the tickets are bookable on united.com?   (and it's not phantom availability, it's on austrian.)
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« Reply #354 on: August 09, 2017, 02:11:23 PM »
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Israeli address? If yes, call them and they will book it properly at 52k
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« Reply #355 on: August 09, 2017, 02:11:26 PM »
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« Reply #356 on: August 09, 2017, 02:13:01 PM »
sept 7

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« Reply #357 on: August 09, 2017, 02:13:11 PM »
why am I only seeing flex award pricing on the website, even though the tickets are bookable on united.com?   (and it's not phantom availability, it's on austrian.)
Flex award pricing on miles and more is their saver level
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« Reply #358 on: August 09, 2017, 02:15:22 PM »
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I see the same flight available at saver level on both. You'll have to call for the pricing you want as hvaces42 said
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« Reply #359 on: August 09, 2017, 02:16:48 PM »
Keep in mind you'll be paying less miles but a lot more $ booking with miles and more vs United
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