Topic Wiki

US customer service 1800-581-6400 8AM-8PM
German customer service +49 (0) 69 209 777 777 7AM-10PM (+6 from EST)

DDMS: The Best Cards From Barclays Bank

-The Lufthansa Premier Miles & More World MasterCard
You can enroll in the Miles & More program here.

US to Israel: For departures from the USA nonstop to Tel Aviv: 80K coach, 135K business. For departures from the USA to Tel Aviv via Europe: 100K coach, 185K business, 290K first. For departures from Israel to the USA nonstop or via Europe for Miles & More accounts with an Israeli address on file: 60K coach, 105K business, 170K first.

The card has no foreign exchange fees.
Lufthansa miles have a few sweet uses:

3 one-way domestic first class flights on United:
You can fly on Star Alliance partner United in domestic first class for just 17,000 miles each way with no fuel surcharges.  All United flights between JFK and Los Angeles or S. Francisco and several flights from Newark have lie-flat seats in business class.  Plus you can still order hot kosher meals between JFK and Los Angeles or S. Francisco in business class.  United charges 25,000 of their own miles each way for these seats, so you’ll save 8,000 miles each way via Lufthansa. Within 24 hours Lufthansa does allow free cancellations even on United medal.

Remember to book one-way flights as a round-trip business class is 35,000 but they charge half the price and round down for one-way so it’s only 17,000 each way.

4 one-way coach tickets:
A one-way coach ticket within the US on United will run 12,000 miles.

Business class to Europe:

Business class to Europe is 52,000 miles each way and there are no fuel surcharges on Lot Polish which flies 787s with an excellent lie-flat business class to Warsaw. (Note that United.com can’t search for LOT Polish flights if you use that to search for Star Alliance awards).
Availability is excellent.

Hawaii:

Business class to Hawaii (including lie-flat seats on flights from Houston and Newark) is just 35,000 miles each way when booked with Lufthansa miles flying on United with no fuel surcharges.  That’s a 10,000 mile savings on a round-trip flight compared to using United miles.
Coach is 20K miles each way, a 5,000 mile savings on a round-trip flight compared to using United miles.

Israel based account:
If your Lufthansa account is registered with an Israeli address then you can book tickets from Israel using the much cheaper Europe award rates.  A flight from Israel to the US will be prices like a flight from Europe to the US. (now must call to get this rate)

Other uses:
Lufthansa First Class has significantly better availability when booked with Miles & More as opposed to programs like United.
There is also much better availability on other airlines like Singapore’s top-notch business class when booked via Miles & More as opposed to programs like United.
Barclays cards can be churned, so you can always start saving up for a dream trip.

Mileage Expiration
Miles expire after 36 months, regardless of activity. If you have a Miles & More credit card and use it monthly, then your miles will not expire.
« Last edited by Thingywingy on June 12, 2020, 06:22:36 PM »

Author Topic: Miles and more  (Read 122138 times)

Offline davidrotts63

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: May 2017
  • Posts: 7218
  • Total likes: 978
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 26
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Programs: Hertz Gold, Hyatt Member, BA Blue, Ebay banned, Amazon Prime
Re: Miles and more
« Reply #500 on: February 17, 2019, 10:48:27 AM »
This myth of combining PNRs is just that, a myth. It cannot be done. Ever.
Can be linked, not combined. (Not talking specifically in this case)
(Quit) pulling out the flowers, and watering the weeds. -Peter Lynch

Offline KidOOO

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Oct 2011
  • Posts: 1821
  • Total likes: 16
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 2
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: NY
Re: Miles and more
« Reply #501 on: February 17, 2019, 11:26:26 PM »
So I just booked 3 people from NYC- to TLV on 4 different PNR's... If I "link" them, will make it any less messy?

Offline helpyouamdme

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite
  • ****
  • Join Date: Aug 2017
  • Posts: 472
  • Total likes: 80
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 4
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
    • contact ‘Kоѕhеr Ski Club’ for the experience of a lifetime!
  • Location: Recalculating signal lost!
Re: Miles and more
« Reply #502 on: February 19, 2019, 09:52:23 AM »
So I just booked 3 people from NYC- to TLV on 4 different PNR's... If I "link" them, will make it any less messy?
but you will have to recheck your bags

Offline shapsam

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Feb 2017
  • Posts: 3017
  • Total likes: 637
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 11
    • View Profile
Re: Miles and more
« Reply #503 on: February 19, 2019, 10:25:03 AM »
but you will have to recheck your bags
-1

Offline KidOOO

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Oct 2011
  • Posts: 1821
  • Total likes: 16
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 2
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: NY
Re: Miles and more
« Reply #504 on: February 21, 2019, 10:06:54 PM »
but you will have to recheck your bags

I think bc same airline won't be an issue at all

Offline sam28

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Jun 2010
  • Posts: 1876
  • Total likes: 137
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
Re: Miles and more
« Reply #505 on: February 22, 2019, 12:35:42 PM »
I just came back business class with LF and did not get my kosher meals they told me they will send me a email I never got one where should I contact them to complain ?

Offline helpyouamdme

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite
  • ****
  • Join Date: Aug 2017
  • Posts: 472
  • Total likes: 80
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 4
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
    • contact ‘Kоѕhеr Ski Club’ for the experience of a lifetime!
  • Location: Recalculating signal lost!
Re: Miles and more
« Reply #506 on: April 18, 2019, 10:28:51 AM »
Just realized that miles and more has completely redesigned their website
Even more what I just realize that they now allow to upgrade on partner operated flights including UA
For example farm New York City to Tel Aviv you need just 45K miles to upgrade from Economy  to Business That's more than the amount on United but you don't have to pay $600 with that amount of miles
« Last Edit: April 18, 2019, 10:43:57 AM by helpyouamdme »

Offline myi

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 20K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Feb 2015
  • Posts: 23540
  • Total likes: 2427
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 356
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: InMyPants! 🙈
  • Programs: 2Many2List!
Re: Miles and more
« Reply #507 on: April 19, 2019, 05:27:53 PM »
Just realized that miles and more has completely redesigned their website
Even more what I just realize that they now allow to upgrade on partner operated flights including UA
For example farm New York City to Tel Aviv you need just 45K miles to upgrade from Economy  to Business That's more than the amount on United but you don't have to pay $600 with that amount of miles
The taxes were insane.
 What's the pricing for an economy tix and taxes? Vs $500-$600 on taxes aside for the award ticket.
  Don't have any miles in account now, otherwise would check on my own.
Quote
Need your LG Exalt fixed? Cracked in half? Water damage? Or parts to repair yourself. 347.201.2501

Offline shapsam

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Feb 2017
  • Posts: 3017
  • Total likes: 637
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 11
    • View Profile
Re: Miles and more
« Reply #508 on: May 30, 2019, 11:12:53 AM »
.

Offline yelped

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Mar 2015
  • Posts: 10471
  • Total likes: 3833
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 43
    • View Profile
Re: Miles and more
« Reply #509 on: May 30, 2019, 12:31:25 PM »
Details?

Offline davidrotts63

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: May 2017
  • Posts: 7218
  • Total likes: 978
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 26
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Programs: Hertz Gold, Hyatt Member, BA Blue, Ebay banned, Amazon Prime
Re: Miles and more
« Reply #510 on: May 30, 2019, 12:33:40 PM »
.
Are we forwarding from WhatsApp with no context now?
(Quit) pulling out the flowers, and watering the weeds. -Peter Lynch

Offline shapsam

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Feb 2017
  • Posts: 3017
  • Total likes: 637
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 11
    • View Profile
Re: Miles and more
« Reply #511 on: May 30, 2019, 01:10:36 PM »
Details?
Are we forwarding from WhatsApp with no context now?
Husband and wife booked from two different third party accounts.

Offline davidrotts63

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: May 2017
  • Posts: 7218
  • Total likes: 978
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 26
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Programs: Hertz Gold, Hyatt Member, BA Blue, Ebay banned, Amazon Prime
Re: Miles and more
« Reply #512 on: May 30, 2019, 01:12:55 PM »
Husband and wife booked from two different third party accounts.
And this happened in what year?
(Quit) pulling out the flowers, and watering the weeds. -Peter Lynch

Offline shapsam

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Feb 2017
  • Posts: 3017
  • Total likes: 637
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 11
    • View Profile
Re: Miles and more
« Reply #513 on: May 30, 2019, 01:17:42 PM »
And this happened in what year?
Booked 2 weeks ago, got the letter last week.

Offline db23

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite + Lifetime Silver Elite
  • *****
  • Join Date: Apr 2014
  • Posts: 613
  • Total likes: 22
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
  • Location: United States
  • Programs: hilton diamond,bonvoy gold, hertz president circle
Re: Miles and more
« Reply #514 on: May 30, 2019, 01:43:45 PM »
i was searching waw-jfk yesterday on LOT and the taxes and fees were for a one way premium cabin ticket $84. today its 427.04 PLN which becomes $111 when converted.

is it possible they raised pricing on these fees over night?

also yesterday it was showing $ and today PLN. i tried on mobile and desktop.


Offline shapsam

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Feb 2017
  • Posts: 3017
  • Total likes: 637
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 11
    • View Profile
Re: Miles and more
« Reply #515 on: June 07, 2019, 07:00:19 PM »

Offline israshot

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Nov 2018
  • Posts: 1103
  • Total likes: 226
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 14
    • View Profile
  • Location: NYC
Re: Miles and more
« Reply #516 on: June 18, 2019, 07:26:49 PM »
This might be a dumb question but it intrigued me.
I'm looking for a flight with SN on UA website and Expert Flyer and see 0 seats for X & I. When I go on M&M I see availability on X. Do they have 2 different X class?

Offline shapsam

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Feb 2017
  • Posts: 3017
  • Total likes: 637
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 11
    • View Profile
Re: Miles and more
« Reply #517 on: June 18, 2019, 07:28:53 PM »
This might be a dumb question but it intrigued me.
I'm looking for a flight with SN on UA website and Expert Flyer and see 0 seats for X & I. When I go on M&M I see availability on X. Do they have 2 different X class?
Yes, M&M has expanded availability for their own airlines.

Offline israshot

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Nov 2018
  • Posts: 1103
  • Total likes: 226
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 14
    • View Profile
  • Location: NYC
Re: Miles and more
« Reply #518 on: June 18, 2019, 07:31:00 PM »
How they differentiate between them?
Isn't this class suppose to go to the inventory if available, and then be seen by any system that has access?

Offline shapsam

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Feb 2017
  • Posts: 3017
  • Total likes: 637
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 11
    • View Profile
Re: Miles and more
« Reply #519 on: June 18, 2019, 07:35:10 PM »
How they differentiate between them?
Isn't this class suppose to go to the inventory if available, and then be seen by any system that has access?
Not sure if it works with different classes, maybe in this case it's not showing for another reason (phantom?) but generally they'll have more availability.