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-The Lufthansa Premier Miles & More World MasterCard
You can enroll in the Miles & More program here.

US to Israel: For departures from the USA nonstop to Tel Aviv: 80K coach, 135K business. For departures from the USA to Tel Aviv via Europe: 100K coach, 185K business, 290K first. For departures from Israel to the USA nonstop or via Europe for Miles & More accounts with an Israeli address on file: 60K coach, 105K business, 170K first.

The card has no foreign exchange fees.
Lufthansa miles have a few sweet uses:

3 one-way domestic first class flights on United:
You can fly on Star Alliance partner United in domestic first class for just 17,000 miles each way with no fuel surcharges.  All United flights between JFK and Los Angeles or S. Francisco and several flights from Newark have lie-flat seats in business class.  Plus you can still order hot kosher meals between JFK and Los Angeles or S. Francisco in business class.  United charges 25,000 of their own miles each way for these seats, so you’ll save 8,000 miles each way via Lufthansa. Within 24 hours Lufthansa does allow free cancellations even on United medal.

Remember to book one-way flights as a round-trip business class is 35,000 but they charge half the price and round down for one-way so it’s only 17,000 each way.

4 one-way coach tickets:
A one-way coach ticket within the US on United will run 12,000 miles.

Business class to Europe:

Business class to Europe is 52,000 miles each way and there are no fuel surcharges on Lot Polish which flies 787s with an excellent lie-flat business class to Warsaw. (Note that United.com can’t search for LOT Polish flights if you use that to search for Star Alliance awards).
Availability is excellent.

Hawaii:

Business class to Hawaii (including lie-flat seats on flights from Houston and Newark) is just 35,000 miles each way when booked with Lufthansa miles flying on United with no fuel surcharges.  That’s a 10,000 mile savings on a round-trip flight compared to using United miles.
Coach is 20K miles each way, a 5,000 mile savings on a round-trip flight compared to using United miles.

Israel based account:
If your Lufthansa account is registered with an Israeli address then you can book tickets from Israel using the much cheaper Europe award rates.  A flight from Israel to the US will be prices like a flight from Europe to the US. (now must call to get this rate)

Other uses:
Lufthansa First Class has significantly better availability when booked with Miles & More as opposed to programs like United.
There is also much better availability on other airlines like Singapore’s top-notch business class when booked via Miles & More as opposed to programs like United.
Barclays cards can be churned, so you can always start saving up for a dream trip.

Mileage Expiration
Miles expire after 36 months, regardless of activity. If you have a Miles & More credit card and use it monthly, then your miles will not expire.
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #540 on: November 14, 2020, 09:27:28 PM »
so i guess i have to book ticket with them wow .

any luck by getting back points that expired with them ?
Book a ticket as far out as possible, and hope for a schedule change :)

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #541 on: January 07, 2021, 09:08:25 PM »
Booked a United Flight with 15k expiring points last March for this February. Was just notified that the flight was changed and I'm entitled to a refund. Will the miles come back as new or with the old expiration which gives me until the end of the quarter to use them? 
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #542 on: January 08, 2021, 07:31:31 AM »
Booked a United Flight with 15k expiring points last March for this February. Was just notified that the flight was changed and I'm entitled to a refund. Will the miles come back as new or with the old expiration which gives me until the end of the quarter to use them?
You’ll get back the miles and they’ll expire at the end of the quarter (3/31/21).

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #543 on: January 21, 2021, 09:47:15 PM »
You’ll get back the miles and they’ll expire at the end of the quarter (3/31/21).
Called and they said 9/30/21 expiration :o :)
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #544 on: January 29, 2021, 02:39:31 PM »
Has there been a stealth devaluation of M&M on US domestic Business Class? Seeing 60k prices for NYC-MIA OW
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #545 on: February 10, 2021, 01:05:36 PM »
Is there any way to book a ticket with them if i fly less then 12 hours they wont let be book ?

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #546 on: October 30, 2021, 11:33:47 PM »
Is this something new or am I doing something wrong? M&M wont let me search for any award flights as I dont have a min of 7.5K points in my account?

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #547 on: November 01, 2021, 12:34:00 AM »
not new

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #548 on: December 02, 2021, 01:43:53 PM »
What if i missed using my miles and more card for one month , would they expire? Or they look at whole quarter? Thanks
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #549 on: February 27, 2022, 02:00:16 PM »
Anyone know how to book a multi stop award ticket online?  Is it possible?

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #550 on: November 09, 2022, 12:30:37 PM »
Is this something new or am I doing something wrong? M&M wont let me search for any award flights as I dont have a min of 7.5K points in my account?

Thank You
Would you be able to search this by calling Lufthansa?
does Lufthansa release more business awards to their own members?

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #551 on: November 09, 2022, 03:18:43 PM »
I have a chunk of KrisFlyer miles that are scheduled to expire in Feb 2023 (after many covid extensions).

How can I extend expiration easily? I remember vaguely that Dan had a post on tips to extend mileage expiration for various programs, but I can't locate it on DDMS.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #552 on: November 10, 2022, 06:42:16 PM »
I have a chunk of KrisFlyer miles that are scheduled to expire in Feb 2023 (after many covid extensions).

How can I extend expiration easily? I remember vaguely that Dan had a post on tips to extend mileage expiration for various programs, but I can't locate it on DDMS.

Same here have a ton of SQ expiring in Feb 23

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #553 on: November 10, 2022, 06:51:12 PM »
I have a chunk of KrisFlyer miles that are scheduled to expire in Feb 2023 (after many covid extensions).

How can I extend expiration easily? I remember vaguely that Dan had a post on tips to extend mileage expiration for various programs, but I can't locate it on DDMS.
This is the Lufthansa Miles and More thread. Maybe post in the SQ thread.
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #554 on: May 05, 2024, 10:58:22 PM »
I just realized I hadn't used my M&M Barclays card in a while, and 139,000 miles expired in January.

Is there anything I can do now to get them back?

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #555 on: May 27, 2024, 08:14:38 AM »
Can anyone check rates for me on Miles and more?
I don't have the required 7,000 points in my account, so I have no way to search for flights...
If there are options, I will transfer points over.
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #556 on: May 27, 2024, 12:40:34 PM »
Transfer from where?

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #557 on: May 27, 2024, 01:10:30 PM »
Transfer from where?
Good point.

Wouldn't be able to transfer. But if there is availability maybe I can find someone who has to book for me...

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #558 on: May 27, 2024, 09:49:40 PM »
If anyone can check availability for me please PM. Don't have 7k in my account.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #559 on: June 10, 2024, 03:29:48 PM »
They have a sale %30 on miles and more purchases good deal now that there is nothing available on star alliance partners