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Re: Frum Orthodox Pilots
« Reply #200 on: August 21, 2024, 01:17:32 PM »
I know its in Israel, but i know a frum guy who is planning on becoming a pilot and plans on doing small flights for private people.
I would think that there are a lot of ex IAF pilots who would be qualified to do that.

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Re: Frum Orthodox Pilots
« Reply #201 on: August 21, 2024, 01:26:57 PM »
I would think that there are a lot of ex IAF pilots who would be qualified to do that.
I know a frum non-IAF LY 787 pilot.
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Re: Frum Orthodox Pilots
« Reply #202 on: August 21, 2024, 01:46:18 PM »
Just remebered this series I watched a decade ago:

Worst Place to be a Pilot is a documentary series which follows the lives of the young British pilots who work for Indonesian airline Susi Air:


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Re: Frum Orthodox Pilots
« Reply #205 on: August 21, 2024, 05:24:30 PM »
no. Pre covid starting salary on the regionals was as little as $35k annually
Well it's 5 years later
Plus airlines probably offer good benefit packages like healthcare and retirement

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Re: Frum Orthodox Pilots
« Reply #206 on: August 21, 2024, 06:38:58 PM »
Interesting interview in Yiddish of a Falcon 900 frum pilot
אלגעמיינע אינטערוויו: ר' חיים פריעדמאן - גרויסע פליגערס פילאט: חלק א' - אינטערוויוס אין די סעריע פון שמועסן מיט אידן וואס האבן טאלאנטן: די וואך אינטערוויו מיט אידן וואס האבן די טאלאנט פון פירן א פליגער אדער העליקאפטער, איבער די קאמפלעצירטע ארבייט פון זיין א פילאט, און אלעס ארום די אינדוסטריע
https://www.yiddish24.com/interviews/38/111804

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Re: Frum Orthodox Pilots
« Reply #207 on: August 21, 2024, 06:56:25 PM »
Well it's 5 years later
Plus airlines probably offer good benefit packages like healthcare and retirement
wow. Apparently it's tripled since then

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Re: Frum Orthodox Pilots
« Reply #208 on: August 21, 2024, 07:35:26 PM »
Interesting interview in Yiddish of a Falcon 900 frum pilot
אלגעמיינע אינטערוויו: ר' חיים פריעדמאן - גרויסע פליגערס פילאט: חלק א' - אינטערוויוס אין די סעריע פון שמועסן מיט אידן וואס האבן טאלאנטן: די וואך אינטערוויו מיט אידן וואס האבן די טאלאנט פון פירן א פליגער אדער העליקאפטער, איבער די קאמפלעצירטע ארבייט פון זיין א פילאט, און אלעס ארום די אינדוסטריע
https://www.yiddish24.com/interviews/38/111804

That's an interesting thing to call a talent. Or does טאלאנט (also?) mean skill in Yiddish?
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Re: Frum Orthodox Pilots
« Reply #209 on: August 21, 2024, 07:52:22 PM »
That's an interesting thing to call a talent. Or does טאלאנט (also?) mean skill in Yiddish?

Talent definitely sounds wrong. There likely isn't an exact translation for skill in Yiddish.   

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Re: Frum Orthodox Pilots
« Reply #210 on: August 22, 2024, 01:06:02 AM »
Talent definitely sounds wrong. There likely isn't an exact translation for skill in Yiddish.

So there is actually an exact translation for skilled in Yiddish - געשולט. A word only good writers/speakers in Yiddish will indeed use.
However, this wouldn't be the translation for the noun - skill, just for the adjective - skilled. 
(The literal meaning of געשולט would be schooled, but would be used as for someone trained/honed/experienced to perfection.) 
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Re: Frum Orthodox Pilots
« Reply #211 on: August 22, 2024, 09:40:39 AM »
Would there be a yichud issue in the cockpit?

Absolutely. Shiur yichud is considered  to be between 2 to 5 minutes among the poskim  - and less if the two are fond / comfortable with each other.  Yichud is discussed among the poskim in elevators, and can also be a problem in the subway/tube - when you have trains where the doors between the wagons are locked, and the stops are distant.

In the post-9/11 era, only pilots have access to the cockpit. On El Al planes, there's even a toilet within the secure cockpit area. El Al may also be equipped with cockpit video recorders, although I doubt poskim would hold that that would solve the issue of yichud, unless it's closed circuit. In the U.S., the NTSB has been pushing for cockpit video recorders to become standard since 2003, but this effort has been consistently opposed by the airline industry and the FAA. Additionally, Part 121 regulations prohibit the use of devices like GoPros in the cockpit, which is why cockpit videos on YouTube typically come from foreign airlines not under FAA jurisdiction. However, all airplanes are equipped with a Cockpit Voice Recorder (CVR) that records a minimum of two hours of audio before looping. U.S. law strictly limits access to CVR audio recordings, restricting it to authorized investigators only.

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Re: Frum Orthodox Pilots
« Reply #212 on: September 02, 2024, 10:52:03 AM »
Is it legal for airlines for forbid pilots to have a beard for religious reasons?
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Re: Frum Orthodox Pilots
« Reply #213 on: September 02, 2024, 12:10:39 PM »
Is it legal for airlines for forbid pilots to have a beard for religious reasons?
If it will interfere with the seal of the oxygen mask....
Same as firefighters

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Re: Frum Orthodox Pilots
« Reply #214 on: September 02, 2024, 12:24:22 PM »
Is it legal for airlines for forbid pilots to have a beard for religious reasons?

https://airlinepilot.life/t/beard-for-airlines/42086/7