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Re: Private Pilot's License
« Reply #20 on: November 17, 2014, 08:37:36 PM »

BTW, there are a bunch of frum pilots out there and we all love giving each other support.
All-in-all, flying is amazing, but don't treat it as a mode of transport unless you plan on getting a few licenses (Instrument rating, commercial rating and maybe even more) and your own plane (so that you can tailor it to your needs).
I know that was a doozie of a post. Feel free to ask me anything else :)
Awesome!
Flying has always been my dream and I even took a few flight lessons but it's way too expensive a hobby for me.
If you're ever flying in the area and have a spare left seat hook me up will ya? :P

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Re: Private Pilot's License
« Reply #21 on: November 17, 2014, 08:40:15 PM »

If you're ever flying in the area and have a spare left seat hook me up will ya? :P
What area? :)

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Re: Private Pilot's License
« Reply #22 on: November 17, 2014, 08:41:08 PM »
What area? :)
NYC Duh :P

Most convenient out of KFRG

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Re: Private Pilot's License
« Reply #23 on: November 17, 2014, 08:42:49 PM »


If you're ever flying in the area and have a spare left seat hook me up will ya? :P
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Re: Private Pilot's License
« Reply #24 on: November 17, 2014, 09:48:58 PM »
Thanks! A lot of interestong info and facts. Was i right that a Bush plane can fly 2k miles without refuling?

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Re: Private Pilot's License
« Reply #25 on: November 17, 2014, 10:19:15 PM »
Thanks! A lot of interestong info and facts. Was i right that a Bush plane can fly 2k miles without refuling?
It would be a massive stretch if possible at all. I would imagine that it would require modification to the fuel system (adding a massive fuel bladder) and that such a trip would be able to be done with only one occupant in the plane. I don't pretend to be an expert on every kind of plane out there, but it sounds a little far fetched. Just to help you understand, let me give you some specs on the planes I am used to flying - Piper Cherokees (in this case a 180HP Archer). The usable fuel on board is 48 gallons. At a rate of 8.5 gal/hr. (which is better than you are likely to get. Usually I get 9-10) that would give just over 5 and a half hours of flying time. Assuming you are doing 125 Knots (which is also a generous number especially if you are flying with passengers), that would give you a range of about 705 nautical miles or about 810 statute miles. Keep in mind that these are likely better than optimal numbers and that you legally have to have enough fuel to fly for at least 30 (during the day) or 45 (at night) minutes past your destination. You would ideally want to have more than that on board.

I don't know anything significant about bush planes but keep in mind that if you have an engine that burns less fuel than what I just mentioned, then it likely flies slower. If you carry more fuel, then either the engine has to be more powerful (and prob burns more fuel) to accommodate the extra weight or you simply wont be able to fit the weight of extra passengers. In the plane I used to fly (a Piper Archer III manufactured in 2000), there was so much avionics that with full fuel you could maybe take one passenger. This is almost like the Seinfeld episode when Kramer and Newman try to figure out how to do the bottle deposits in Michigan.

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Re: Private Pilot's License
« Reply #26 on: November 17, 2014, 10:46:44 PM »
I have one.

Wow. Amazing info. Thanks for writing it up. I am seriously considering doing it.
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Re: Private Pilot's License
« Reply #27 on: November 17, 2014, 10:55:08 PM »
How far is the flight from NY to CLE? Is it too far for the piper?
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Re: Private Pilot's License
« Reply #28 on: November 17, 2014, 11:02:24 PM »
How far is the flight from NY to CLE? Is it too far for the piper?

Definitely doable. Depends how many ppl you want to take and which piper you're talking about but it's 384 nautical miles as the crow flies from KFRG. Figure about 110-125 knots and you got 3-3.5 hours plus a little more for t/o and landing. In either case, you could lighten up on the fuel and make a stop along the way.
Please don't hesitate to ask away on the board or PM me, although I don't always check PMs frequently.
And BTW, check out www.aopa.org they are the most well known pilot advocacy group and there is a wealth of info on their site if you search well enough. If you do decide to go ahead with the training, it's worth it to become a member of AOPA
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Re: Private Pilot's License
« Reply #29 on: November 17, 2014, 11:17:16 PM »
My friend who owns a flying school recently took my dad and a few friends from FRG to upstate Michigan. It was a twin engine though, not sure which one.

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Re: Private Pilot's License
« Reply #30 on: November 17, 2014, 11:23:33 PM »
My friend who owns a flying school recently took my dad and a few friends from FRG to upstate Michigan. It was a twin engine though, not sure which one.
I would guess a Piper Seneca if he was using the school's twin engine

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Re: Private Pilot's License
« Reply #31 on: November 17, 2014, 11:25:05 PM »
I would guess a Piper Seneca if he was using the school's twin engine
Google imaged it and sounds about right....

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Re: Private Pilot's License
« Reply #32 on: November 17, 2014, 11:35:55 PM »
@shtank: if I may ask, what kind of plane do you fly? And do you fly for a living?

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Re: Private Pilot's License
« Reply #33 on: November 17, 2014, 11:40:29 PM »
@shtank: if I may ask, what kind of plane do you fly? And do you fly for a living?
I do not fly for a living. I don't have a commercial license so I am not allowed to charge for flying. Up until now I have flown a bunch of different types of Piper Cherokees. I have a couple of hours in Cessnas but nothing major. I plan on transitioning to Cessnas in the very near future.

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Re: Private Pilot's License
« Reply #34 on: November 17, 2014, 11:42:49 PM »
I do not fly for a living. I don't have a commercial license so I am not allowed to charge for flying. Up until now I have flown a bunch of different types of Piper Cherokees. I have a couple of hours in Cessnas but nothing major. I plan on transitioning to Cessnas in the very near future.
Gosh I'm so jealous, if only I could afford such a hobby :P

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Re: Private Pilot's License
« Reply #35 on: November 17, 2014, 11:51:22 PM »
Gosh I'm so jealous, if only I could afford such a hobby :P
Well, then we're in the same boat pretty much. At least as of now. The ma'alah I had was getting my license before I got married. At this point, however, I spend maybe between $1k and $2k a year on it (usually closer to $1k). I try to go as often as I can with others who are willing to chip in.

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Re: Private Pilot's License
« Reply #36 on: November 17, 2014, 11:51:56 PM »
Gosh I'm so jealous, if only I could afford such a hobby :P
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Re: Private Pilot's License
« Reply #37 on: November 18, 2014, 12:02:48 AM »
The ma'alah I had was getting my license before I got married.
Yeah, one of my regrets...

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Re: Private Pilot's License
« Reply #38 on: November 18, 2014, 12:34:28 AM »
thanks for all the replies @shtank definitely gonna havta to think about considering it

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Re: Private Pilot's License
« Reply #39 on: November 18, 2014, 12:39:16 AM »
Well, then we're in the same boat pretty much. At least as of now. The ma'alah I had was getting my license before I got married. At this point, however, I spend maybe between $1k and $2k a year on it (usually closer to $1k). I try to go as often as I can with others who are willing to chip in.

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