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QFYJFK-LAX11/14SearchGuyThey even provided foil pan and double wrap to warm the food!
UAJEWR-HNL8/15@YehudaPOM meals
UAY/Y+LIH-LAX8/15@YehudaPOM meals, was booked in Y but was given a Y+ seat
LHJFRA-JFK11/14itsyehudaPOM meals
AAFJFK-LAX5/15itsyehudaPOM meals
ATYCMN-JFK12/15eliteflyerPOM meal
DLJATL-HNL8/15Something FishyPOM meals
DLFLAX-JFK8/15Something FishyPOM meals
PSYJFK-KBP4/16User6669Refrigerate salad and spreads.
HAYJFK-HNL2/1712HRSFA offered aluminum foil to rewrap after checking food
UAJEWR-LAX7/16brodes18POM meals. At first refused due to "regulations", agreed to heat them up after some persuading.
MUJJFK-PVG4/26/17yhoodersPOM meals.My friend reports they heated with no issue.
BAFJFK-LHR3/16LoLoThey even provided foil pan and double wrap to warm the food, then served it on the dishes from my KSML.


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Re: BYOK: Bring Your Own KSML To Be Warmed Up Onboard
« Reply #220 on: October 23, 2017, 09:08:54 AM »
Two logistics questions, in preparation for a trip to DXB in a few weeks, taking DW's "Pom" meals for hotel re-heat:

1. Do I need to freeze my Polar Bear cooler before packing it, or can I pack it room temperature?

2. What heating instructions for frozen meals? I'm guessing 60-90 minutes at 175-200C. Please advise.

Thanks.
1) No need to freeze the bag, but bring many ice packs. Should try to have at least 5 - 10 if you can fit them. It make a big difference in keeping them from defrosting at all.

2) My instructions have been 300 - 350 F for 60 minutes. I rarely had it come out less than piping hot. In fact I usually can't touch the tin for a few minutes after it's delivered. When you're hungry, you don't want to be waiting 90 minutes!

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Re: BYOK: Bring Your Own KSML To Be Warmed Up Onboard
« Reply #221 on: October 23, 2017, 10:58:10 PM »
IIRC POM meals come with instructions on them.
Seems these are the homemade type

Yes, my wife's homemade "Pom" meals.

1) No need to freeze the bag, but bring many ice packs. Should try to have at least 5 - 10 if you can fit them. It make a big difference in keeping them from defrosting at all.

2) My instructions have been 300 - 350 F for 60 minutes. I rarely had it come out less than piping hot. In fact I usually can't touch the tin for a few minutes after it's delivered. When you're hungry, you don't want to be waiting 90 minutes!
You mean the cooler itself? That could be room temp.

And you'd probably get a better answer to your second question in the kosher food while traveling thread.

Ok, I remember reading somewhere that Dan or someone else said that the ice packs may or may not be necessary, but if I have room for them I may as well pack them. It's a short stay in DXB -- 4 nights -- and only two of us traveling, so we should have plenty of room.

I was thinking of grabbing a few 5-lb slices of dry ice, cost permitting.  That might be overkill.

Thanks for the heating recommendations.

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Re: BYOK: Bring Your Own KSML To Be Warmed Up Onboard
« Reply #222 on: October 23, 2017, 11:00:54 PM »
Don't need any ice if the meals have been frozen for several days.

I do 75 minutes at 350 if frozen solid.
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Re: BYOK: Bring Your Own KSML To Be Warmed Up Onboard
« Reply #223 on: October 23, 2017, 11:13:29 PM »
I've never flown with ice packs.
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Re: BYOK: Bring Your Own KSML To Be Warmed Up Onboard
« Reply #224 on: October 24, 2017, 08:22:18 AM »
I've never flown with ice packs.
Don't need any ice if the meals have been frozen for several days.

I do 75 minutes at 350 if frozen solid.

DW cooked extra portions for chag meals, so they are very well frozen now.
Given your advice/experience, I'll forego purchasing the CO2 but will include a few of my own regular ice packs for good measure.
Thanks very much. Looking forward to my first BYOK experience.

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Re: BYOK: Bring Your Own KSML To Be Warmed Up Onboard
« Reply #225 on: November 15, 2017, 05:42:05 PM »
On UA 84 in J now, just got completely shut down by 3 FA's and the service manager!

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Re: BYOK: Bring Your Own KSML To Be Warmed Up Onboard
« Reply #226 on: November 15, 2017, 06:10:37 PM »
On UA 84 in J now, just got completely shut down by 3 FA's and the service manager!
Need to frame it well. Is the ksml cold part frozen? Is the hot meal dried out?

Any kosher wine on the flight?
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Re: BYOK: Bring Your Own KSML To Be Warmed Up Onboard
« Reply #227 on: November 15, 2017, 07:18:25 PM »
Need to frame it well. Is the ksml cold part frozen? Is the hot meal dried out?

Any kosher wine on the flight?
Ye I thought I did, but I guess not well enough.. I even tried your "It tastes worse than it looks" Lol. Guy was too nervous to lose his job..

Not frozen but Breadticks were completely stale.

Didnt try it, had my french roast and corned beef at room temperature.

Yes, as you mentioned it was Convanent, but it was a cheap red Zinfandel.

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Re: BYOK: Bring Your Own KSML To Be Warmed Up Onboard
« Reply #228 on: November 15, 2017, 09:41:36 PM »
DW cooked extra portions for chag meals, so they are very well frozen now.
Given your advice/experience, I'll forego purchasing the CO2 but will include a few of my own regular ice packs for good measure.
Thanks very much. Looking forward to my first BYOK experience.
Thanks again for the advice.
The meals were frozen solid 24h later. I used about 6 ice packs, which were also frozen. This bag is a game-changer.

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Re: BYOK: Bring Your Own KSML To Be Warmed Up Onboard
« Reply #229 on: November 15, 2017, 09:45:34 PM »
Was chatting with AC FA Angela on my DXB-YYZ flight. She said she usually flies the YYZ-TLV on Fridays. She said it is AC policy not to heat up any personal meals in their ovens. Risk of fire (“what if you had plastic inside the foil wrap?” I really don’t see that igniting, but I wasn’t in the mood to argue with her) and what if food leaked from the BYOK onto their regular meals? Contamination concern etc. 

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Polar Bear cooler - Lets get this clarified once and for all.
« Reply #230 on: January 07, 2018, 07:48:05 PM »
I am flying to the Maldives next week - spending four nights there 1st night at FS Kuda, and next 3 at FS Giravaa - they officially have brand new dishes, and pots that they open for your person use when you arrive, and they store it separately, and supposedly they have frum people regularly and are "more than happy to accomodate us" etc.

Wondering if we could get more info on the Polar Bear Cooler.

I definitely do NOT need 50lb of frozen food - and i specifically am aiming to travel with a maximum of 10% more than i actually need.

My questions:

1. If i am bringing meat for 4 days - some Raw meat to be cooked there, some smoked meats for Shabbos all in all 4 meat meals (relying on fish/eggs from the hotel for the other meals)
would the 12 pack be big enough?  or min 24? if 24 - would that fit into a typical hand luggage?

2. How long would ice stay frozen in there? nowadays lots of coolers will keep things frozen for nearly 4-5 days wth minor melting - how does this stack up?

3. If you have used it with ice packs - did you have issues getting through TSA since the packs are technically liquid

4. What foods are recommended to bring on a trip like this - where frozen space is so limited? and what foods were completely regretted?

TIA!!
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Re: BYOK: Bring Your Own KSML To Be Warmed Up Onboard
« Reply #231 on: January 07, 2018, 07:56:53 PM »
Was chatting with AC FA Angela on my DXB-YYZ flight. She said she usually flies the YYZ-TLV on Fridays. She said it is AC policy not to heat up any personal meals in their ovens. Risk of fire (“what if you had plastic inside the foil wrap?” I really don’t see that igniting, but I wasn’t in the mood to argue with her) and what if food leaked from the BYOK onto their regular meals? Contamination concern etc.

Sounds like CX to me.

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Re: BYOK: Bring Your Own KSML To Be Warmed Up Onboard
« Reply #232 on: January 08, 2018, 12:49:21 AM »
I am flying to the Maldives next week - spending four nights there 1st night at FS Kuda, and next 3 at FS Giravaa - they officially have brand new dishes, and pots that they open for your person use when you arrive, and they store it separately, and supposedly they have frum people regularly and are "more than happy to accomodate us" etc.

Wondering if we could get more info on the Polar Bear Cooler.

I definitely do NOT need 50lb of frozen food - and i specifically am aiming to travel with a maximum of 10% more than i actually need.

My questions:

1. If i am bringing meat for 4 days - some Raw meat to be cooked there, some smoked meats for Shabbos all in all 4 meat meals (relying on fish/eggs from the hotel for the other meals)
would the 12 pack be big enough?  or min 24? if 24 - would that fit into a typical hand luggage?

2. How long would ice stay frozen in there? nowadays lots of coolers will keep things frozen for nearly 4-5 days wth minor melting - how does this stack up?

3. If you have used it with ice packs - did you have issues getting through TSA since the packs are technically liquid

4. What foods are recommended to bring on a trip like this - where frozen space is so limited? and what foods were completely regretted?

TIA!!
Tofasta merubah...too many questions.

But you don't need ice in a PBC if the meals are in a deep freeze.
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« Reply #233 on: February 11, 2018, 11:13:38 AM »
Anyone has experience with RJ heating up own food?

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Re: BYOK Master Thread: Bring Your Own KSML To Be Warmed Up Onboard
« Reply #236 on: February 21, 2018, 01:34:39 PM »
No mention of Kosher/religious meals even where he talks about dietary issues.
with a name like that its probably done on purpose.
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Re: BYOK Master Thread: Bring Your Own KSML To Be Warmed Up Onboard
« Reply #237 on: November 15, 2018, 11:08:17 PM »
I bought the small one in the grocery, needs to be warmed up for at least an hour, will it work for BYOK? https://www.alleprocessing.com/product?sku=01-PKPY

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Re: BYOK Master Thread: Bring Your Own KSML To Be Warmed Up Onboard
« Reply #238 on: November 16, 2018, 01:09:20 AM »
I bought the small one in the grocery, needs to be warmed up for at least an hour, will it work for BYOK? https://www.alleprocessing.com/product?sku=01-PKPY
Just tell them to put it in the oven for an hour.
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Re: BYOK Master Thread: Bring Your Own KSML To Be Warmed Up Onboard
« Reply #239 on: May 02, 2019, 06:35:09 PM »
Is BYOK dying?

I was rejected in December on AA from MIA-EZE due to "security reasons."
I was rejected again today on DL from AMS-DTW due to "security reasons."

Anyone else having a harder time of late?
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