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urgent help needed- italy no health insurance and broken hip
« on: November 22, 2014, 10:37:56 PM »
hi all,

on friday, erev shabbos my grandmother was in italy (milan) and she slipped on the floor and broke her hip. the problem is that her travelers insurance ran out the day before. (for some reason she didn't buy extra for this last separate part of the trip). she needs surgery but her doc recommnded that she wait until she returns to the states. she is supposed to come back on monday.

a few questions:
1- does anyone know how it works in hospitals in italy with no insurance (like will they charge her an arm and a leg for her stay)?
2- how can she fly between milan-jfk laying flat only (is that even possible?)
3- can anyone help us with this?

thank you :)

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urgent help needed- italy no health insurance and broken hip
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2014, 10:40:14 PM »
Does here regular insurance cover international?

UA has a flight MXP-EWR that has lie flat business, or you have AA to JFK that has lie flat but not at 100% flat.

ETA: or it seems Alitalia is also lie flat to JFK
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Re: urgent help needed- italy no health insurance and broken hip
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2014, 10:48:22 PM »
she has medicaid/medicare so i don't think they will :/

do you know if they are lie flat for take off and landing also?

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Re: urgent help needed- italy no health insurance and broken hip
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2014, 10:57:02 PM »

do you know if they are lie flat for take off and landing also?

That's going to be a challenge, but it's worth calling the airlines to see what they can accommodate...

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Re: urgent help needed- italy no health insurance and broken hip
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2014, 11:10:28 PM »
she has medicaid/medicare so i don't think they will :/

do you know if they are lie flat for take off and landing also?

No. All airlines make the seats go back into full upright position for taxi, take-off, and landing. Only while in the air can they be in full lie flat position. This is due to safety regulations. Airlines won't let it be any other way.
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Re: urgent help needed- italy no health insurance and broken hip
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2014, 01:14:37 AM »
No. All airlines make the seats go back into full upright position for taxi, take-off, and landing. Only while in the air can they be in full lie flat position. This is due to safety regulations. Airlines won't let it be any other way.
Maybe for extreme circumstances like this they will make an exception it's at least worth a phone call
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Re: urgent help needed- italy no health insurance and broken hip
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2014, 01:25:47 AM »
TAM let Rafi stay horizontal for landing because he was sleeping.
I was shocked.
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Re: urgent help needed- italy no health insurance and broken hip
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2014, 01:35:58 AM »
TAM let Rafi stay horizontal for landing because he was sleeping.
I was shocked.
when you own first class all by yourself and nobody is looking, there are different rules.

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Re: urgent help needed- italy no health insurance and broken hip
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2014, 05:27:31 AM »
When I flew us air envoy tlv-phl I put my seat down right after they checked the seat belts and I was out before takeoff I woke up 8 1/2 hours later  :)

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Re: urgent help needed- italy no health insurance and broken hip
« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2014, 06:46:00 AM »
Because they didn't check after that again, but not allowed "lekatchile"

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Re: urgent help needed- italy no health insurance and broken hip
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2014, 08:35:09 AM »
I'm sure there are ways to travel for medical reasons.  Call the airlines and ask.

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Re: urgent help needed- italy no health insurance and broken hip
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2014, 11:02:35 AM »
hi all,

on friday, erev shabbos my grandmother was in italy (milan) and she slipped on the floor and broke her hip. the problem is that her travelers insurance ran out the day before. (for some reason she didn't buy extra for this last separate part of the trip). she needs surgery but her doc recommnded that she wait until she returns to the states. she is supposed to come back on monday.

a few questions:
1- does anyone know how it works in hospitals in italy with no insurance (like will they charge her an arm and a leg for her stay)?
2- how can she fly between milan-jfk laying flat only (is that even possible?)
3- can anyone help us with this?

thank you :)

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Re: urgent help needed- italy no health insurance and broken hip
« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2014, 12:38:55 PM »
hi all,

on friday, erev shabbos my grandmother was in italy (milan) and she slipped on the floor and broke her hip. the problem is that her travelers insurance ran out the day before. (for some reason she didn't buy extra for this last separate part of the trip). she needs surgery but her doc recommnded that she wait until she returns to the states. she is supposed to come back on monday.

a few questions:
1- does anyone know how it works in hospitals in italy with no insurance (like will they charge her an arm and a leg for her stay)?
2- how can she fly between milan-jfk laying flat only (is that even possible?)
3- can anyone help us with this?

thank you :)
Would the Italian hospital allow her to be discharged with a fractured hip?
If you have an accepting MD in the States who would perform her procedure, ask them to advise.
Follow Mordy788's advice as well.
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Re: urgent help needed- italy no health insurance and broken hip
« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2014, 02:22:57 PM »
thanks everyone :). my grandmother is actually going to be having surgery tomorrow in italy (she is covered insurance wise as long as she remains in the hospital that admitted her). hoping that the surgery and everything go well. (if anyone is interested in saying tehillim her name is esther shaindel bas fraidel chedva [kapital 77]). praying that everything goes well and that she can come home soon

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Re: urgent help needed- italy no health insurance and broken hip
« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2014, 02:24:06 PM »
Amen! Glad it worked out with the insurance and I hope it continues to go well.

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Re: urgent help needed- italy no health insurance and broken hip
« Reply #15 on: November 24, 2014, 02:38:19 PM »
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Re: urgent help needed- italy no health insurance and broken hip
« Reply #17 on: November 24, 2014, 05:49:46 PM »
Just an FYI, Lufthansa do an emergency medical evac service - in the past I have flown a patient from Europe to NYC in a lie flat position. But that was a few years back.
http://www.lufthansa.com/online/portal/lh/us/local?nodeid=3322420&l=en

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Re: urgent help needed- italy no health insurance and broken hip
« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2015, 12:08:10 AM »
just wanted to let everyone know that my grandmother FINALLY came home today from milan. she's now in a rehab center in nyc. thanks again for the prayers

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Re: urgent help needed- italy no health insurance and broken hip
« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2015, 01:03:52 AM »
just wanted to let everyone know that my grandmother FINALLY came home today from milan. she's now in a rehab center in nyc. thanks again for the prayers

BH! Thanks for sharing the update. Hope the recovery goes well.
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