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Air Canada (AC):
EZE-SCL

Air China (CA):
MUC-ATH
MAD-GRU
BCN-VIE
YUL-HAV

Air France (AF):
Some Routes in the Caribbean - PTP
LAX-PPT
SIN-CGK
EZE-MVD

Air New Zealand (NZ):
LHR-LAX
LAX-RAR

British Airways (BA):
SYD-SIN
AUH-MCT
BAH-DOH
CMB-MLE
NAS-GCM
ANU-SKB
ANU-PLS

Cathay Pacific (CX):
JFK-YVR
BKK-SIN
CNS-BNE

Emirates (EK):
GIG-EZE
SIN-MEL
AKL-SYD
HKG-BKK
JFK-MXP
SIN-CMB
BKK-SYD
KUL-MEL

Eva Air (BR):
LHR-BKK

Garuda Indonesia (GA):
AMS-LGW

Jet Airways (9W):
EWR- BRU
YYZ-BRU

Kenya Airways (KQ):
BKK-HKG
BKK-CAN

KLM (KL):
BAH-AUH
SCL-EZE

Korean Air (KE):
LAX-GRU
VIE-ZRH
HNL-NRT

Kuwait Airways (KU):
JFK-LHR
FRA-GVA
CDG-FCO

LAN (LA):
AKL-SYD
MAD-FRA

Pakistan Airlines (PK):
MAN-JFK

Qantas (QF):
LHR-DXB

Qatar Airways (QR):
GRU-EZE
BKK-HAN

Royal Jordanian (RJ):
BKK-HKG

Singapore Airlines (SQ):
LAX-NRT
JFK-FRA
SFO-HKG
IAH-MAN
MAN-MUC

Swiss (LX):
DXB-MCT

Tam (JJ):
JFK-YYZ

Thai Airways (TG):
LAX-ICN

Turkish Airlines (TK):
GRU-EZE

United Airlines (UA):
HKG-SIN
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Re: 5th Freedom Flights Master Thread
« Reply #160 on: February 14, 2017, 12:03:06 PM »
Let's have a thread where we make up unlikely 5th freedom routes and then post the next day that we were kidding. I'll start.

Hey, guys! Did you hear about HPN-SIN on QF in an A380?
How about adding to the Wiki airports that are least likely to get 5th Freedom flights, so people can avoid mistakes. Start the list with the following four:

TLV
HPN
CLE
PIT
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: 5th Freedom Flights Master Thread
« Reply #161 on: April 15, 2017, 10:04:15 AM »
Ethiopian KUL-SIN

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Re: 5th Freedom Flights Master Thread
« Reply #162 on: June 07, 2017, 10:24:09 AM »
I have UR and MR and trying to get to YVR in J.
What is my best redemption option flying RT on CX?
What would be my best redemption option flying JFK-YVR on PR and then YVR-JFK on CX?

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Re: 5th Freedom Flights Master Thread
« Reply #163 on: June 07, 2017, 10:30:32 AM »
I have UR and MR and trying to get to YVR in J.
What is my best redemption option flying RT on CX?
What would be my best redemption option flying JFK-YVR on PR and then YVR-JFK on CX?
MR > CX  is 50k RT or 30k OW on CX.
MR > NH is 55k RT on PR (can't book NH partners as OW).

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Re: 5th Freedom Flights Master Thread
« Reply #164 on: June 07, 2017, 10:31:06 AM »
I have UR and MR and trying to get to YVR in J.
What is my best redemption option flying RT on CX?
What would be my best redemption option flying JFK-YVR on PR and then YVR-JFK on CX?
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/85765
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: 5th Freedom Flights Master Thread
« Reply #165 on: June 07, 2017, 10:37:14 AM »
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/85765
Thanks Dan.
That post lists JFK-YVR in J for 25K BA. It is now 37.5K BA as per phone rep.

Can you offer any input on redeeming flights on PR?

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Re: 5th Freedom Flights Master Thread
« Reply #166 on: June 07, 2017, 10:40:32 AM »
That post lists JFK-YVR in J for 25K BA.
-1.

Can you offer any input on redeeming flights on PR?
Use Hybrid points.
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Re: 5th Freedom Flights Master Thread
« Reply #167 on: June 07, 2017, 10:44:41 AM »
Use Hybrid points.
that would be 66K as the ticket is pricing at $1,000
IIRC they partner with EK and ANA however I do not have account with EK and cant check the price/availability.

ETA: 62.5K EK on PR from JFK to YVR.
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Re: 5th Freedom Flights Master Thread
« Reply #168 on: June 07, 2017, 10:46:57 AM »
-1.
my bad. was looking in the wrong column. Lol

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Re: 5th Freedom Flights Master Thread
« Reply #169 on: January 04, 2018, 08:53:37 AM »
Are there any 5th Freedoms from JFK-LAX?

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Re: 5th Freedom Flights Master Thread
« Reply #170 on: January 04, 2018, 09:15:23 AM »

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Re: 5th Freedom Flights Master Thread
« Reply #171 on: January 04, 2018, 09:33:32 AM »
Are there any 5th Freedoms from JFK-LAX?
the Qantas flight is not a 5th freedom, but possible to book as a stopover award with AS continuing to Australia eventually

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Re: 5th Freedom Flights Master Thread
« Reply #172 on: January 04, 2018, 11:50:56 AM »
Are there any 5th Freedoms from JFK-LAX?

This is by very definition impossible. The fifth freedom allows an airline to carry revenue traffic between foreign countries as a part of services connecting the airline's own country.
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Re: 5th Freedom Flights Master Thread
« Reply #173 on: January 04, 2018, 11:52:51 AM »
the Qantas flight is not a 5th freedom, but possible to book as a stopover award with AS continuing to Australia eventually

While this may be able to be booked, do you know of anyone who has actually flown that... it's officially cabbatoge.
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Re: 5th Freedom Flights Master Thread
« Reply #174 on: January 04, 2018, 12:01:27 PM »
the Qantas flight is not a 5th freedom, but possible to book as a stopover award with AS continuing to Australia eventually
This is by very definition impossible. The fifth freedom allows an airline to carry revenue traffic between foreign countries as a part of services connecting the airline's own country.
While this may be able to be booked, do you know of anyone who has actually flown that... it's officially cabbatoge.
It's not impossible, it would be under the 8th freedom, which the USA doesnt allow

Yes I know someone who booked and flew it

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Re: 5th Freedom Flights Master Thread
« Reply #175 on: June 28, 2018, 11:33:11 AM »
I'm seeing a BA flight from EWR-ORY. Make sense? Is that new?

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Re: 5th Freedom Flights Master Thread
« Reply #176 on: June 28, 2018, 11:36:16 AM »
I'm seeing a BA flight from EWR-ORY. Make sense? Is that new?
Not new, its Open skies.

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Re: 5th Freedom Flights Master Thread
« Reply #177 on: March 28, 2019, 12:16:15 AM »
Air Canada (AC):
EZE-SCL

Just added this to the wiki.

Looks like EZE is the 5th Freedom capital.
KLM now services this same route.
13.5k FB in Y
34k FB and up in J

Operating 77W AFAIK
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Re: 5th Freedom Flights Master Thread
« Reply #178 on: July 29, 2020, 12:33:19 AM »
Not exactly a 5th freedom but an interesting route nonetheless:
SY 934

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Re: 5th Freedom Flights Master Thread
« Reply #179 on: July 29, 2020, 01:27:57 AM »
Wow does this wiki need a refresh.