Kippah Sruga - why the stigma?

[zale]

Why is there a stigma around a Kippah Sruga (knitted yarmulka)? Why is it not mainstream like any other yarmulka?

[real-brisker]

Why is there a stigma around a Kippah Sruga (knitted yarmulka)? Why is it not mainstream like any other yarmulka?

What's the point of this thread?

[Moshe123]

Because certain people changed the type of yarmulke that was worn in their (former) area for reasons that are obvious.
It's a symptom.

[Menachem613]

Because Moshe Rabbeinu didn't wear one. So who are they to alter the Mesorah.

[efflpetzel]

There's no stigma.

It only becomes a stigma if you view it as such

[lubaby]

There's no stigma.

It only becomes a stigma if you view it as such

Well..
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/headlines-breaking-stories/177575/shas-rav-cohen-the-kippot-srugot-are-amalek.html

[aygart]

Why is there a stigma around a Kippah Sruga (knitted yarmulka)? Why is it not mainstream like any other yarmulka?

Why is there a stigma around a black fedora? Why is it not mainstream like any other hat?

[Achas Veachas]

Why is there a stigma around a Kippah Sruga (knitted yarmulka)? Why is it not mainstream like any other yarmulka?

No stigma. Different strokes for different folks....

[zale]

What's the point of this thread?

To be honest, I like the way it looks. Simple as that. My hesitation to acquiring one is the stigma that surrounds it.

[DP7]

Because people are dumb

[ckmk47]

The stigma is not the yarmalke per se.  Yarmalke type / hat type is a way of identifying yourself as part of a group.  Among 'black hatters' the kippa sruga represents Modern Orthodox Zionist.  The stigma / resentment / antagonism is against the group, not the headgear itself.

[MarkS]

The stigma is not the yarmalke per se.  Yarmalke type / hat type is a way of identifying yourself as part of a group.  Among 'black hatters' the kippa sruga represents Modern Orthodox Zionist.  The stigma / resentment / antagonism is against the group, not the headgear itself.

100%.

People of different persuasions often dress somewhat similarly due to their similar identification. Hippies have long hair, some african americans wear their pants at half mast, etc.
When someone wears or does that thing they are implying that they are affiliated with that group. In our circles it's manifested itself with most 'Ultra' Orthdox Jews wearing Velvet and modern Orthdox wearing knitted/leather.
Wearing it in and of itself doesn't make you a different person but it sends a message to others about who you are.
Therefore, if you wear it people will assume that you associate yourself with Modern Orthodoxy.
Nothing wrong with being Modern Orthodox - but don't expect them to think you're Chasidish, or insulted if they assume you're not Yeshivish.

[aygart]

100%.

People of different persuasions often dress somewhat similarly due to their similar identification. Hippies have long hair, some african americans wear their pants at half mast, etc.
When someone wears or does that thing they are implying that they are affiliated with that group. In our circles it's manifested itself with most 'Ultra' Orthdox Jews wearing Velvet and modern Orthdox wearing knitted/leather.
Wearing it in and of itself doesn't make you a different person but it sends a message to others about who you are.
Therefore, if you wear it people will assume that you associate yourself with Modern Orthodoxy.
Nothing wrong with that - but don't expect them to think your Chasidish!

+1

[zale]

The stigma is not the yarmalke per se.  Yarmalke type / hat type is a way of identifying yourself as part of a group.  Among 'black hatters' the kippa sruga represents Modern Orthodox Zionist.  The stigma / resentment / antagonism is against the group, not the headgear itself.

It represents Modern Orthodox Zionist, or does it just happen to be that MO men tend to like that particular style? Was that style invented on a Kibbutz?

It sounds as though the knitted yarmulka was hijacked by a particular group of people.

[MarkS]

It represents Modern Orthodox Zionist, or does it just happen to be that MO men tend to like that particular style? Was that style invented on a Kibbutz?

It sounds as though the knitted yarmulka was hijacked by a particular group of people.

How it became that way is irrelevant.

If you walk into a meeting with jeans and sneakers you represent yourself differently than if in a suit and tie.
Who decided suits and ties cut better business deals? Does wearing jeans make you less smart/savvy? The fact is that most business men wear s&T and blue collar worker or students wear jeans.
Therefore when wearing one or the other people will make assumptions about you.

[aygart]

It represents Modern Orthodox Zionist, or does it just happen to be that MO men tend to like that particular style? Was that style invented on a Kibbutz?

It sounds as though the knitted yarmulka was hijacked by a particular group of people.

There is a sign up in Rabbi Tendler's shul in Monsey which the basic idea of it is that a kipa sruga was made for comfort while working the field in a kibbutz in hot weather and is inappropriate for tefilah. I think that the sign implies that it is primarily referring to smaller ones, but I am unsure about that. His is certainly not an overly right wing shul.

[avromie7]

How it became that way is irrelevant.

If you walk into a meeting with jeans and sneakers you represent yourself differently than if in a suit and tie.
Who decided suits and ties cut better business deals? Does wearing jeans make you less smart/savvy? The fact is that most business men wear s&T and blue collar worker or students wear jeans.
Therefore when wearing one or the other people will make assumptions about you.

Absolutely correct I just spoke to someone high up in a large frum company and he told me that countless times he had to explain to managers that they want the guy with the jeans and not the guy with the white shirt even though the one with the jeans gave off the impression of being inferior because it was only because of the way he dressed
Even though it's not fair that's the way people are

[Galitzyaner]

Because people are dumb

+1 Simply sheltered and close-minded.
Many of you keep referring to kipa sruga wearers as MO Zionists. There are many MO Kipa Sruga wearers who are A) Left wing,  and B) Not Zionist.  So that should already shatter that silly stereotype.

As of recent,  there's even been an Admu"r who also sports a kippa sruga! 

[thaber]

As of recent,  it's been publicized that there is an Admu"r who also sports a kippa sruga! 

FTFY
And it did start with kibbutzniks,  who were typically zionist

[Galitzyaner]

FTFY
And it did start with kibbutzniks,  who were typically zionist

Who cares who it started from? ! And the fedora started from Italian goyim or cowboys or whoever.  And same with shtreimels etc. What matters is now.

Re. the FTFY,  why do you say so?  Is it not true?