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Re: Kippah Sruga - why the stigma?
« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2014, 01:47:07 AM »
I believe he's been doing it for 50 years.  Mishpacha just made it famous.
Black hats didn't start in northern Lithuania?

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Re: Kippah Sruga - why the stigma?
« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2014, 01:48:43 AM »


As of recent,  there's even been an Admu"r who also sports a kippa sruga!  ;D
who?
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Re: Kippah Sruga - why the stigma?
« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2014, 01:49:29 AM »
I believe he's been doing it for 50 years.  Mishpacha just made it famous.
Black hats didn't start in northern Lithuania?
Mishpacha? I never saw it there,  so I guess I'm not sure who you're referring to.

I don't have a  clue where it started,  but I highly doubt it was by yidden.

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Re: Kippah Sruga - why the stigma?
« Reply #23 on: December 04, 2014, 01:59:09 AM »
who?
The Pashkaner. He's a son-in-law of the Imrei Chaim of Vizhnitz and a sixth-generation descendant of the Heilige Ruzhiner.

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Re: Kippah Sruga - why the stigma?
« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2014, 02:01:26 AM »
The Pashkaner. He's a son-in-law of the Imrei Chaim of Vizhnitz and a sixth-generation descendant of the Heilige Ruzhiner.
http://www.mishpacha.com/Browse/Article/4529/Legacy-of-Many-Threads
Mishpacha? I never saw it there,  so I guess I'm not sure who you're referring to.

I don't have a  clue where it started,  but I highly doubt it was by yidden.

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Re: Kippah Sruga - why the stigma?
« Reply #25 on: December 04, 2014, 02:17:24 AM »
This is not a Purim Shpiel! :D











So cute!

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Re: Kippah Sruga - why the stigma?
« Reply #26 on: December 04, 2014, 02:45:10 AM »
The stigma is not the yarmalke per se.  Yarmalke type / hat type is a way of identifying yourself as part of a group.  Among 'black hatters' the kippa sruga represents Modern Orthodox Zionist.  The stigma / resentment / antagonism is against the group, not the headgear itself.
MO, really?
We must have very different definitions of the term. Some of the most non-"Modern Orthodox" I know, wear kippot srugot.
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Re: Kippah Sruga - why the stigma?
« Reply #27 on: December 04, 2014, 07:00:17 AM »
So add mizrachi non-MO.

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Re: Kippah Sruga - why the stigma?
« Reply #28 on: December 04, 2014, 07:13:25 AM »

I believe he's been doing it for 50 years.  Mishpacha just made it famous.
Black hats didn't start in northern Lithuania?

http://www.historyofhats.net/hat-history/history-of-fedora/

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Re: Kippah Sruga - why the stigma?
« Reply #30 on: December 04, 2014, 01:43:00 PM »
This is not a Purim Shpiel! :D




So cute!
hahaha omg,
where did you find those pics?

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Re: Kippah Sruga - why the stigma?
« Reply #31 on: December 04, 2014, 03:51:01 PM »
Gotta love it, no?! :D

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Re: Kippah Sruga - why the stigma?
« Reply #32 on: December 04, 2014, 04:26:10 PM »
The stigma is not the yarmalke per se.  Yarmalke type / hat type is a way of identifying yourself as part of a group.  Among 'black hatters' the kippa sruga represents Modern Orthodox Zionist.  The stigma / resentment / antagonism is against the group, not the headgear itself.

I kinda understand there being some sort of stigma, but is there really mainstream resentment and antagonism?  I've only seen one or two posters here act antagonistic towards MO, but I assumed they're an anomaly.
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Re: Kippah Sruga - why the stigma?
« Reply #33 on: December 04, 2014, 04:58:32 PM »

I kinda understand there being some sort of stigma, but is there really mainstream resentment and antagonism?  I've only seen one or two posters hear act antagonistic towards MO, but I assumed they're an anomaly.

I hope you're correct.

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Re: Kippah Sruga - why the stigma?
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Re: Kippah Sruga - why the stigma?
« Reply #35 on: December 05, 2014, 02:02:34 AM »
If radicals only realized how evil they are, and how much destruction they bring upon humanity :(.

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Re: Kippah Sruga - why the stigma?
« Reply #36 on: December 08, 2014, 09:46:06 AM »

If radicals only realized how evil they are, and how much destruction they bring upon humanity :(.

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Re: Kippah Sruga - why the stigma?
« Reply #37 on: December 08, 2014, 09:48:31 AM »
100%.

People of different persuasions often dress somewhat similarly due to their similar identification. Hippies have long hair, some african americans wear their pants at half mast, etc.
When someone wears or does that thing they are implying that they are affiliated with that group. In our circles it's manifested itself with most 'Ultra' Orthdox Jews wearing Velvet and modern Orthdox wearing knitted/leather.
Wearing it in and of itself doesn't make you a different person but it sends a message to others about who you are.
Therefore, if you wear it people will assume that you associate yourself with Modern Orthodoxy.
Nothing wrong with being Modern Orthodox - but don't expect them to think you're Chasidish, or insulted if they assume you're not Yeshivish.
Well said