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Re: Obamacare Master thread
« Reply #100 on: August 21, 2016, 11:50:14 PM »
Not directly related to the discussion at hand, but definitely has a lot to do with the underlying political bias and economic theory:

https://youtu.be/GTQnarzmTOc
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Re: Obamacare Master thread
« Reply #101 on: August 28, 2016, 11:59:12 PM »
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/health-care-exchange-sign-ups-fall-far-short-of-forecasts/2016/08/27/3d93f602-6895-11e6-99bf-f0cf3a6449a6_story.html

Paging Matovu, you might find some way to spin this as a positive for Obamacare, I promise a detailed response.
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Re: Obamacare Master thread
« Reply #102 on: August 29, 2016, 06:07:48 AM »
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/health-care-exchange-sign-ups-fall-far-short-of-forecasts/2016/08/27/3d93f602-6895-11e6-99bf-f0cf3a6449a6_story.html

Paging Matovu, you might find some way to spin this as a positive for Obamacare, I promise a detailed response.
You've made your point.
You're rooting for it's demise.
And your begging me to fall for your bait.
Soon their gonna call me a troll ?
Without reading the above I'll leave you with this: It needs more healthy participants, and if you give it time and support it the it may work out fine.
Now use my quote as liberal garbage and run.

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Re: Obamacare Master thread
« Reply #103 on: August 29, 2016, 06:39:44 AM »
BTW, what's with your profile pic? It's hard to tell what it is on my phone, but it looks it's a pic of Neturei Karta?!

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Re: Obamacare Master thread
« Reply #104 on: August 29, 2016, 07:10:26 AM »

Without reading the above I'll leave you with this: It needs more healthy participants, and if you give it time and support it the it may work out fine.


That's part of the issue...why should a healthy participant be interested in paying the same premiums as someone in poor health? And how is that even fair?

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Re: Obamacare Master thread
« Reply #105 on: August 29, 2016, 01:20:30 PM »
It needs more healthy participants, and if you give it time and support it the it may work out fine.
Now use my quote as liberal garbage and run.
Yes it may work with healthy people subsidizing the unhealthy. It also may collapse and take the health care system with it.
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Obamacare Master thread
« Reply #106 on: August 29, 2016, 02:10:13 PM »
Yes it may work with healthy people subsidizing the unhealthy. It also may collapse and take the health care system with it.
Bingo

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Re: Obamacare Master thread
« Reply #107 on: August 29, 2016, 04:13:22 PM »
Bingo
Should healthy people be forced to subsidize the unhealthy? Even if yes should that chance of it possibly working be taken at the potential cost of collapsing the entire healthcare system?
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Obamacare Master thread
« Reply #108 on: August 29, 2016, 05:45:01 PM »
BTW, what's with your profile pic? It's hard to tell what it is on my phone, but it looks it's a pic of Neturei Karta?!
Bump

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Re: Obamacare Master thread
« Reply #109 on: August 29, 2016, 06:00:16 PM »
Should healthy people be forced to subsidize the unhealthy? Even if yes should that chance of it possibly working be taken at the potential cost of collapsing the entire healthcare system?

Healthy people are buying insurance to use in case they get sick, not just subsidizing poor people.

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Re: Obamacare Master thread
« Reply #110 on: August 29, 2016, 06:10:12 PM »
Healthy people are buying insurance to use in case they get sick, not just subsidizing poor people.

If it would be based on their acturial tables it would be much cheaper and there would be many more signed up. You also did not address the second part of the question.
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Obamacare Master thread
« Reply #111 on: August 29, 2016, 08:37:51 PM »
Anyone have any DP's on financial assistance for marketplace plans? The website is useless and the reps keep saying "just fill out an application".

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Re: Obamacare Master thread
« Reply #112 on: August 29, 2016, 08:42:06 PM »
Anyone have any DP's on financial assistance for marketplace plans? The website is useless and the reps keep saying "just fill out an application".
Which state? In NY I can help you.
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Re: Obamacare Master thread
« Reply #114 on: August 29, 2016, 10:47:01 PM »

Without reading the above I'll leave you with this: It needs more healthy participants, and if you give it time and support it the it may work out fine.
Are you out of your mind?

The last thing the regime wants, is for Obamacare to "work out fine"!

It was deliberately designed to fail, and is working just as planned.
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Re: Obamacare Master thread
« Reply #115 on: September 01, 2016, 09:50:50 PM »
The path of Obamacare:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/09/01/americas/venezuela-protests/index.html

The last paragraph sounds like it was written by Matovu:

"Venezuelan officials say they aren't to blame for the country's mounting problems; they accuse the political right of carrying out an economic war to undermine the government."
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Re: Obamacare Master thread
« Reply #116 on: September 26, 2016, 01:32:15 PM »
Baloney. I'm paying more than double for my family than I was 3 years ago, and almost every top tier doctor in the city of los angeles won't take any insurance anymore. So both I and my wife had to switch doctors more than once. Cedars Sinai Medical Center and UCLA, the two best hospitals in town, take 2 insurances. 2. So I'm paying a ton more, have a 10K deductible instead of a 2500 deductible, and still have to worry about finding a decent doctor. And everyone I know who was paying their own way before (not on welfare of some sort) has the same issue.
Update: just got my renewal for next year. Premium is going up 27%. deductible is higher, and they are removing ALL out of network coverage (used to be 50% up to the deductible amount). I eagerly await all the explanations of why this is really good for me.

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Re: Obamacare Master thread
« Reply #117 on: September 26, 2016, 01:45:03 PM »
Update: just got my renewal for next year. Premium is going up 27%. deductible is higher, and they are removing ALL out of network coverage (used to be 50% up to the deductible amount). I eagerly await all the explanations of why this is really good for me.
Well, if you were in downstate NY, none of the individual plans sold on exchange ever included out of network benefits IIRC.

Maybe a PM to @Matovu will get you an explanation of why Obamacare might be good for you.
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Re: Obamacare Master thread
« Reply #118 on: September 26, 2016, 01:47:31 PM »
Well, if you were in downstate NY, none of the individual plans sold on exchange ever included out of network benefits IIRC.

Maybe a PM to @Matovu will get you an explanation of why Obamacare might be good for you.
I'm not. NY was never good for individual plans. CA always was.

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Re: Obamacare Master thread
« Reply #119 on: September 26, 2016, 02:09:40 PM »
Update: just got my renewal for next year. Premium is going up 27%. deductible is higher, and they are removing ALL out of network coverage (used to be 50% up to the deductible amount). I eagerly await all the explanations of why this is really good for me.
Wow I thought my 15% was bad