Author Topic: Not sitting next to women on plane causes chillul hashem AGAIN. Drudge Report  (Read 20986 times)

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So don't walk in NYC or take a subway because usually you don't bump into anyone.
Separate heterim for that although im pretty sure these people stay away from that anyways

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Separate heterim for that although im pretty sure these people stay away from that anyways
these people should calmly try to solve the problem on their own. if people dont want to take a middle seat (dont blame them), then deal with it. if you dont like it, then dont fly, but dont bring down the rest of the jews with you

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I don't define chillul Hashem as the Daily Mail looking down on a practice.  They look down on most of our halachos and minhagim--just it doesn't usually make the news.

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I don't define chillul Hashem as the Daily Mail looking down on a practice.  They look down on most of our halachos and minhagim--just it doesn't usually make the news.
how about for everyone else on the flight? does that qualify as a chilul Hashem?

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I don't define chillul Hashem as the Daily Mail looking down on a practice.  They look down on most of our halachos and minhagim--just it doesn't usually make the news.
How about this leading to a headline in the most read news aggregation site in the country for what any sane person would consider a selfish interpretation of law.
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I don't define chillul Hashem as the Daily Mail looking down on a practice.  They look down on most of our halachos and minhagim--just it doesn't usually make the news.


It does when it affects others. And that's the whole point.
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Again.. This issue ain't gonna go away unless the airlines let travel agents or users buy blocks of seats/rows.
Throw their you know what in jail and watch how quickly it ends.
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Throw their you know what in jail and watch how quickly it ends.
& have stories all over the place of the airline being accused of anti-semitism ? Ain't gonna happen

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& have stories all over the place of the airline being accused of anti-semitism ? Ain't gonna happen
That card like many others get overplayed and becomes worthless.
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That card like many others get overplayed and becomes worthless.
It's just like the blacks claiming racist it's very over used but still way too effective
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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I don't define chillul Hashem as the Daily Mail looking down on a practice.  They look down on most of our halachos and minhagim--just it doesn't usually make the news.
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not saying I agree with the practice or that it is halachicly justified but following halacha is not a chillul hashem no matter how the masses view it. A chillul hashem is when you profane G-d's name by NOT following halacha... The q is, is this in line with halacha? They think yes so no matter what we say they will continue.
At least that is my understanding

As to a solution a friend was telling me about an app where you post your upcoming flights and find ppl on same flight as you and choose your seat accordingly - purpose being of course to find that cute girl, but I guess it could be used to accomplish the opposite

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Total idiots.
I just traveled 8 hrs in economy next to a woman and there were no issues.

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Do they sit next to their wives in Niddah?

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Do they sit next to their wives in Niddah?
Believe it or not, my Rov told me that when someone's wife is Niddah it's preferable next to an unrelated woman on a long-haul flight...

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Believe it or not, my Rov told me that when someone's wife is Niddah it's preferable next to an unrelated woman on a long-haul flight...

Well I guess maybe they don't. I just think they need to R-E-L-A-X.

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How about this leading to a headline in the most read news aggregation site in the country for what any sane person would consider a selfish interpretation of law.

Still not the definition of chillul Hashem.  Chillul Hashem is when you don't follow halacha.  You're free to disagree here on the halacha, but their position has a very reasonable basis.

Total idiots.
I just traveled 8 hrs in economy next to a woman and there were no issues.

Liar.

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i wont sit next ladies, who are not "overdressed". you got a problem with that ??
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Believe it or not, my Rov told me that when someone's wife is Niddah it's preferable next to an unrelated woman on a long-haul flight...
you need a new Rov . asap . better yet your whole shul does ...
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