Author Topic: Not sitting next to women on plane causes chillul hashem AGAIN. Drudge Report  (Read 20998 times)

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how about one from an accepted source
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So you come on here to be Motzi La'az on an Eda Shleima and their Rabbonim and when someone calls you out on it you go hide in PMs?

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That is definitely the halacha.  If it is actually pikuach nefesh, I think that would be talui on the discussion brought in the shach regarding if you are a doctor and she is choleh sh'yesh bo sakana and nobody else is available to treat her.

But if it's pikuach nefesh, maybe you should just stay home.

a couple in that situation can easily have their 2 sep seats and a middle armrest and be covered by those detaisl...
If extreme, then buy an window and an aisle seat if that's the extent that they require...  no need for further Pikuach Nefesh extremes or staying home...
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a couple in that situation can easily have their 2 sep seats and a middle armrest and be covered by those detaisl...
If extreme, then buy an window and an aisle seat if that's the extent that they require...  no need for further Pikuach Nefesh extremes or staying home...
Are you actually taking henche seriously

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Are you actually taking henche seriously

...no worries.... I know better than that...  ;)  ....   I just think that they all need to chill and see what halacha really states.  Often, their actions and/or alternatives are worse than the original underlying issue....

Imagine when the boats would sail for 8 weeks, and there would be turbulence -- someone could inadvertently fall and bang into someone... It's not planned, it's not an aveira, it's life... #1 -- they'll manage in an appropriate manner --  #2 -- If they are that concerned on an airplane, then it's THEIR responsibility to take necessary paid precautions to avoid it -- and NOT make Delta the culprit....
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a couple in that situation can easily have their 2 sep seats and a middle armrest and be covered by those detaisl...
If extreme, then buy an window and an aisle seat if that's the extent that they require...  no need for further Pikuach Nefesh extremes or staying home...

I was responding to the icy street scenario, to be clear

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I was responding to the icy street scenario, to be clear

haaa..... wow! How's THAT for a 'cross reference'!?!  :) ...'!???!  "schar Halicha"... seems like ages ago -- was that yesterday!?
Or are you referring to the "if-a-lady-slips-down-the-hill-on-the-ice and bumps into a man and is hurt badly and needs medical help - type of scenario.....?....... 
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I can check back in tomorrow night. I am sure this nonsense will still be going on.
Why do these threads remind me of Groundhog Day?
in the name of mutual respect:
If Mary hadn't sat next to a man, there would be no Xmas...

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in the name of mutual respect:
If Mary hadn't sat next to a man, there would be no Xmas...
Since have mutual respect can we use Christmas?  ;)
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in the name of mutual respect:
If Mary hadn't sat next to a man, there would be no Xmas...

My yeshiva didn't have sex ed, but I don't believe sitting next to someone is enough.  ;)

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@CM, I need a popcorn refill urgently!

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@CM, I need a popcorn refill urgently!


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Which one is cm?

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Which one is cm?
They are both him.
Those at the DDF DO tomorrow will have to confirm for those of us who cant make it.
The first one was when the thread was just getting started and he was eating it so gracefully.
the second one was as the thread progessed

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That is definitely the halacha.  If it is actually pikuach nefesh, I think that would be talui on the discussion brought in the shach regarding if you are a doctor and she is choleh sh'yesh bo sakana and nobody else is available to treat her.

But if it's pikuach nefesh, maybe your wife should just stay home.

Ftfy

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My yeshiva didn't have ed, but I don't believe sitting next to someone is enough.  ;)
you know that and I know that, but Immaculate conception doesn't know that...
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FWIW it's finally off of drudge

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FWIW it's finally off of drudge
Its news from a year ago...

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I imagine the issue isn't only about touching or sitting next to a woman, but also about sitting between two women. Not that I'm agreeing or disagreeing, just stating a point.
Isn't that issur לעבור? I didn't see it say לשבת ;).