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Re: NFL Master Thread
« Reply #1560 on: November 07, 2022, 10:22:54 AM »
The ball was getting swatted regardless by the other defender. If the pass isn’t going straight to his stomach and thrown higher towards the sideline it would be a call they need to make.
It was a very catchable ball. You’re saying it’s not PI because the other defender would have made a play on it anyway?! C’mon man.

He tried to stop earlier to come back for the ball and would have been in much better position to make the catch if the defender wasn’t dragging him forward for a few steps before the adjustment. As it is it was catchable.
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Re: NFL Master Thread
« Reply #1561 on: November 07, 2022, 10:31:30 AM »
It was a very catchable ball. You’re saying it’s not PI because the other defender would have made a play on it anyway?! C’mon man.

You think it was catchable, I don’t think he had a chance. Agree to disagree. He’s no Hopkins, and if he was he would have better body positioning and not overrun the pass.

https://twitter.com/runbackdave/status/1589363296821710849

After watching again, the defender sees the ball coming, tries to plant himself but Claypool is still running into him, and puts his hands out to defend pass, then tackled him once it arrived. There’s nothing close to egregious here.
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Re: NFL Master Thread
« Reply #1562 on: November 07, 2022, 10:36:33 AM »
Arguments where you're watching the same exact video and seeing different things are so weird. I mean the defender literally has his arms around the receiver and is physically pulling him the opposite direction the receiver is trying to go.


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Re: NFL Master Thread
« Reply #1563 on: November 07, 2022, 10:48:21 AM »
Arguments where you're watching the same exact video and seeing different things are so weird. I mean the defender literally has his arms around the receiver and is physically pulling him the opposite direction the receiver is trying to go.

You are arguing about egregious, that’s a much higher bar to pass. There’s a dozen plays every week that are more egregious that don’t get called. Usually when the receiver is well defended.
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Re: NFL Master Thread
« Reply #1564 on: November 07, 2022, 10:49:50 AM »
I mean the defender literally has his arms around the receiver...
Maybe we are all blind?  ;)
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Re: NFL Master Thread
« Reply #1565 on: November 07, 2022, 11:06:32 AM »
I am going to guess @yuneeq never read the rule for PI.

Acts that are pass interference include, but are not limited to:
(a) Contact by a player who is not playing the ball that restricts the opponent’s opportunity to make the catch;
(b) Playing through the back of an opponent in an attempt to make a play on the ball;
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Re: NFL Master Thread
« Reply #1566 on: November 07, 2022, 11:23:42 AM »
I am going to guess @yuneeq never read the rule for PI.

Acts that are pass interference include, but are not limited to:
(a) Contact by a player who is not playing the ball that restricts the opponent’s opportunity to make the catch;
(b) Playing through the back of an opponent in an attempt to make a play on the ball;

This applies to 30 plays a game. If you want to argue for egregious (which is how it's often called), you need to ignore the rule book and try to make a subjective call in real time. Anyone that watches football knows that there is literally a missed flag every single play.
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Re: NFL Master Thread
« Reply #1567 on: November 07, 2022, 11:29:56 AM »
This applies to 30 plays a game. If you want to argue for egregious (which is how it's often called), you need to ignore the rule book and try to make a subjective call in real time. Anyone that watches football knows that there is literally a missed flag every single play.
You are ignoring the rule book by keep using the word "egregious".
Your original response was so laughable I didn't even respond to it.
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Re: NFL Master Thread
« Reply #1568 on: November 07, 2022, 03:02:05 PM »
You are ignoring the rule book by keep using the word "egregious".
Your original response was so laughable I didn't even respond to it.

You are ignoring the posts where I said it’s a penalty by the book. Not sure what’s wrong with your reading comprehension.
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Re: NFL Master Thread
« Reply #1569 on: November 07, 2022, 03:12:30 PM »
You are ignoring the posts where I said it’s a penalty by the book. Not sure what’s wrong with your reading comprehension.
I am not ignoring anything. I am calling out your laughable posts. That is why I quoted them.

Where do you get this word "egregious" from as in this post:
You are arguing about egregious, that’s a much higher bar to pass. There’s a dozen plays every week that are more egregious that don’t get called. Usually when the receiver is well defended.
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Re: NFL Master Thread
« Reply #1570 on: November 07, 2022, 04:13:02 PM »
I am not ignoring anything. I am calling out your laughable posts. That is why I quoted them.

Where do you get this word "egregious" from as in this post:

Someone said it's very blatant missed call on a very catchable pass, and another said we must not be watching the same video. I believe we are watching the same thing but disagree about how egregious it is. We all agree it's against the rules, but the rule book isn't always followed.
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Re: NFL Master Thread
« Reply #1571 on: November 07, 2022, 04:16:04 PM »
Someone said it's very blatant missed call on a very catchable pass, and another said we must not be watching the same video. I believe we are watching the same thing but disagree about how egregious it is. We all agree it's against the rules, but the rule book isn't always followed.
My point is "egregious" is a very strong word and as you pointed out a higher bar. Why are you injecting that into the conversation when that is not the bar?
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Re: NFL Master Thread
« Reply #1572 on: November 13, 2022, 04:32:06 PM »
Best 30 seconds at the end of the game I have ever seen.
Min vs Buf
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Re: NFL Master Thread
« Reply #1573 on: November 13, 2022, 06:07:47 PM »
Best 30 seconds at the end of the game I have ever seen.
Min vs Buf
Indeed. It now seems likely that the AFC playoffs will once again be going through arrowhead.
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Re: NFL Master Thread
« Reply #1574 on: November 14, 2022, 11:00:32 PM »
Best 30 seconds at the end of the game I have ever seen.
Min vs Buf
Totally bonkers. More than just the last 30 seconds though, fourth quarter and on was absolutely epic.
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Re: NFL Master Thread
« Reply #1575 on: November 14, 2022, 11:28:08 PM »
Is the Jefferson catch better than OBJ's?

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Re: NFL Master Thread
« Reply #1576 on: November 14, 2022, 11:33:42 PM »
Is the Jefferson catch better than OBJ's?
Not sure which OBJ's catch you are talking about but I hope not. I wasn't that impressed. Defender gets a major assist.
ETA: If this one then OBJ hands down.
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Re: NFL Master Thread
« Reply #1577 on: November 14, 2022, 11:42:03 PM »
Is the Jefferson catch better than OBJ's?
In context, Jefferson's. For a physical feat, I'd say OBJ's.


Jefferson's is more analogous to Tyree's catch.

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Re: NFL Master Thread
« Reply #1578 on: November 15, 2022, 08:29:36 AM »
In context, Jefferson's. For a physical feat, I'd say OBJ's.


Jefferson's is more analogous to Tyree's catch.
I don’t think anything comes close to a Super Bowl game winning drive as far as context
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Re: NFL Master Thread
« Reply #1579 on: November 15, 2022, 09:39:19 AM »
Physically - JJ’s catch is a much better feat. It was OBJ one hand + wrestling it from defenders hands + securing the ball with one hand while falling to the ground.

But still it’s close call, OBJ was the first one to do it, and like Roger Bannister’s 4 minute mile, it’s much more impressive than those that came after him.
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