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Re: Travel Agent Market Research - Your thoughts on 21st century Agents.
« Reply #100 on: April 26, 2023, 09:54:43 AM »
Not helping those that travel agents scam them out by adding on a $75 fee to an open ticket


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Re: Travel Agent Market Research - Your thoughts on 21st century Agents.
« Reply #101 on: April 26, 2023, 10:16:50 AM »
Not helping those that travel agents scam them out by adding on a $75 fee to an open ticket
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Re: Travel Agent Market Research - Your thoughts on 21st century Agents.
« Reply #102 on: April 27, 2023, 01:27:31 AM »
Not helping those that travel agents scam them out by adding on a $75 fee to an open ticket

They are supposed to work for free?
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: Travel Agent Market Research - Your thoughts on 21st century Agents.
« Reply #103 on: April 27, 2023, 02:17:34 AM »
They are supposed to work for free?
This is, like at least the second end of school year since "Covid closed the ELAl offices..."...
You sold a product, you need to factor in possible future expenses...

I'm sort of done with TA's, at least for the cheap tickets I fly on.
I don't find that they save me time, and if I book direct, I can make changes directly w/ the airline instead of paying the TA a service fee for the changes.

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Re: Travel Agent Market Research - Your thoughts on 21st century Agents.
« Reply #104 on: April 27, 2023, 07:26:49 AM »
They are supposed to work for free?

You sold a product, you need to factor in possible future expenses...

whole concept is im paying  more now so I don't need to pay more later.

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Re: Travel Agent Market Research - Your thoughts on 21st century Agents.
« Reply #105 on: April 27, 2023, 08:50:30 AM »
They are supposed to work for free?
It's interesting that this user's only "contribution" to this site is to attack anyone who dares to say anything negative about their profession as a travel agent. Apparently they don't realize that the ship sailed on travel agents in general about 25 years ago and if one wants to succeed in tha tiny remaining niche they will do so by providing a niche service and doing so with a smile. Can you do us all a favor ilherman and post the name of the commercial enterprise you're shilling for here so that in the event anyone does find themselves in need of a TA they know which one to avoid?

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Re: Travel Agent Market Research - Your thoughts on 21st century Agents.
« Reply #106 on: April 27, 2023, 08:54:55 AM »
They are supposed to work for free?
They paid when they bought the ticket a year ago!

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Re: Travel Agent Market Research - Your thoughts on 21st century Agents.
« Reply #107 on: April 27, 2023, 09:08:51 AM »
It's interesting that this user's only "contribution" to this site is to attack anyone who dares to say anything negative about their profession as a travel agent. Apparently they don't realize that the ship sailed on travel agents in general about 25 years ago and if one wants to succeed in tha tiny remaining niche they will do so by providing a niche service and doing so with a smile. Can you do us all a favor ilherman and post the name of the commercial enterprise you're shilling for here so that in the event anyone does find themselves in need of a TA they know which one to avoid?
Lol - he has almost 9000 posts here. You went through all of them?

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Re: Travel Agent Market Research - Your thoughts on 21st century Agents.
« Reply #108 on: April 27, 2023, 09:44:53 AM »
It's interesting that this user's only "contribution" to this site is to attack anyone who dares to say anything negative about their profession as a travel agent. Apparently they don't realize that the ship sailed on travel agents in general about 25 years ago and if one wants to succeed in tha tiny remaining niche they will do so by providing a niche service and doing so with a smile. Can you do us all a favor ilherman and post the name of the commercial enterprise you're shilling for here so that in the event anyone does find themselves in need of a TA they know which one to avoid?


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Re: Travel Agent Market Research - Your thoughts on 21st century Agents.
« Reply #109 on: April 27, 2023, 11:15:39 AM »
Lol - he has almost 9000 posts here. You went through all of them?
My mistake.

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Re: Travel Agent Market Research - Your thoughts on 21st century Agents.
« Reply #110 on: May 01, 2023, 07:55:06 PM »
I think Plan it rite is a prime example of a 21st century value added agency
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Re: Travel Agent Market Research - Your thoughts on 21st century Agents.
« Reply #111 on: May 01, 2023, 08:01:55 PM »
I think Plan it rite is a prime example of a 21st century value added agency
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For the service he offered, absolutely! It looked great.
Can't compare that to a 'regular' booking though...

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Re: Travel Agent Market Research - Your thoughts on 21st century Agents.
« Reply #112 on: May 01, 2023, 08:04:41 PM »
For the service he offered, absolutely! It looked great.
Can't compare that to a 'regular' booking though...
I'm talking about the business model as a whole, the value they add here will bring them regular business
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Re: Travel Agent Market Research - Your thoughts on 21st century Agents.
« Reply #113 on: May 01, 2023, 10:48:34 PM »
They paid when they bought the ticket a year ago!
They paid for the STU fare. Which is something you can't get online. Now when it comes to chnage the ticket they have to be busy with it again especially since they said the inventory in which they were booked in was not available they probably had to spend time playing around to confirm the seats. I'm not in the travel business and I definitely don't know this Lakewood travel agent. All I'm saying is that it's not like they are גנבים...

And people still enjoy using TA's for a couple of reasons. Not gonna name them all. But I know plenty of successful travel agents and many happy clients.
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Re: Travel Agent Market Research - Your thoughts on 21st century Agents.
« Reply #114 on: May 02, 2023, 02:38:52 AM »
They paid for the STU fare. Which is something you can't get online. Now when it comes to chnage the ticket they have to be busy with it again especially since they said the inventory in which they were booked in was not available they probably had to spend time playing around to confirm the seats.
I get it that there is more work involved now, but shouldn't the TA factor in future costs when originally pricing the tickets?

What if his rent went up now, can he ask prepaid clients from 6 months ago for another $20? What if they asked for $500, not $75, where do you draw the line when/how/who can come back for more money down the line?

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Re: Travel Agent Market Research - Your thoughts on 21st century Agents.
« Reply #115 on: May 02, 2023, 03:47:01 AM »
I get it that there is more work involved now, but shouldn't the TA factor in future costs when originally pricing the tickets?

What if his rent went up now, can he ask prepaid clients from 6 months ago for another $20? What if they asked for $500, not $75, where do you draw the line when/how/who can come back for more money down the line?
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One example of an erliche worker I know - a computer technician (not me) - makes it clear when money will need to be spent and for how much. The diagnostic price is clearly defined. If it will take more than that, the owner is given the chance to back out at each stage. If a part will take an undefined amount of time to arrive, he says so, and he separates the cost of the part (paid up front) and the cost of the install (in case the customer gives up after three weeks). RBs is fond of quoting the Chofetz Chaim somewhere, who exhorts all workers to define as much as possible in advance - this is the way to go. No expectations, no disappointment...
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Re: Travel Agent Market Research - Your thoughts on 21st century Agents.
« Reply #116 on: May 02, 2023, 08:39:13 AM »
This was sent out when tickets were booked originally




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Re: Travel Agent Market Research - Your thoughts on 21st century Agents.
« Reply #117 on: May 02, 2023, 09:49:21 AM »
This was sent out when tickets were booked originally


I don't see anything about them taking care of the return booking
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Re: Travel Agent Market Research - Your thoughts on 21st century Agents.
« Reply #118 on: May 02, 2023, 09:52:45 AM »
I don't see anything about them taking care of the return booking

open return valid one year from departure. Please note if you book through an agent  you're required to use them all the way through.  Airlines generally are not supposed to take over a travel agent booking. (Obviously exceptions apply)

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Re: Travel Agent Market Research - Your thoughts on 21st century Agents.
« Reply #119 on: May 02, 2023, 09:54:07 AM »
open return valid one year from departure. Please note if you book through an agent  you're required to use them all the way through.  Airlines generally are not supposed to take over a travel agent booking. (Obviously exceptions apply)
When my children used similar tickets they needed to call Elal to book their return
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