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High commission for fundraisers
« on: January 19, 2015, 11:31:11 PM »
I want to thank all the wonderful fundraisers out there, yasher koiach for all you do. Recently I heard about one particular org giving their fundraisers a %50 commission, is that fair for the donor and recipients of that organization? I am all for fundraisers making a living, but if I pledge $1000 and find out later that the organization only got half of my donation it would make me feel like I was robbed, I feel that fundraisers should have an expected amount to collect annually along with a decent salary and get a bonus like a %10 bonus of all they collect after they hit their expected annual amount so they feel motivated to collect as much as possible just like plenty of business give to their employees, if it's a bad year and they fundraise just double their salary I wouldn't complain that they are getting %50, but when it comes to every single donation they are lechatchila getting half that just rubs me the wrong way.

P.s. in case it's misunderstood I'm not generalizing all fundraisers and all organizations c"v there are plenty of erliche fundraisers that work very hard day and night to help worthy organizations.
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Re: High commission for fundraisers
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2015, 03:44:42 AM »
"להסתובב זה לא אומר להיות חופשי"

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Re: High commission for fundraisers
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2015, 12:10:44 PM »
I started watching but once he said he's gay I decided not to waste my time watching, to hear his opinion.

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Re: High commission for fundraisers
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2015, 12:25:05 PM »
I started watching but once he said he's gay I decided not to waste my time watching, to hear his opinion.

Yes, perfectly reasonable approach.
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Re: High commission for fundraisers
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2015, 12:27:57 PM »
Yes, perfectly reasonable approach.
It's also a 18 minute video

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Re: High commission for fundraisers
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2015, 12:28:53 PM »
I also don't think Tchaikovsky was capable of producing good music because he was gay.

Because, ya know, how could he? He was gay.
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Re: High commission for fundraisers
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2015, 12:33:22 PM »
I also don't think Tchaikovsky was capable of producing good music because he was gay.

Because, ya know, how could he? He was gay.
It's about listening to gay/liberal opinion it's not about work that was done by gay people, if my plumber was gay it wouldn't bother me, but I wouldn't send my son to a gay social worker because of his warped opinions

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Re: High commission for fundraisers
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2015, 12:35:12 PM »
This guy's approach to fundraising is unique, enlightening, and spot on. Has nothing do with being gay or liberal. This is more akin to a plumber than a social worker.

Step out of your box and stop being so judgmental, especially until you spend the time to watch it.

Love those who criticize first, ask questions later.
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Re: High commission for fundraisers
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2015, 12:38:00 PM »
This guy's approach to fundraising is unique, enlightening, and spot on. Has nothing do with being gay or liberal. This is more akin to a plumber than a social worker.

Step out of your box and stop being so judgmental.

Oh, and don't sit there being critical until you spend the time to watch it.
Did you watch the whole video yourself to approve it as not a complete waste of time? If the answer is yes I'll take time to watch it later today.

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Re: High commission for fundraisers
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2015, 12:39:59 PM »
Seriously?

Wouldn't that be funny. Criticizing you for not watching while not having watched myself.

I'm not a hypocrite. I've watched it. Which is how I know how good it is.
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Re: High commission for fundraisers
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2015, 12:45:17 PM »
It actually is a reasonable apporach.

I don't want to listen to Charles Manson talk about music.

If you view homosexuality as morally depraved, its actually quite reasonable.

You may not agree with the outlook, but it does make some sense.

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Re: High commission for fundraisers
« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2015, 12:51:54 PM »
It actually is a reasonable apporach.

I don't want to listen to Charles Manson talk about music.

If you view homosexuality as morally depraved, its actually quite reasonable.

You may not agree with the outlook, but it does make some sense.
And if you found out another speaker lived with his fiance before his wedding would your view be the same? How about if he cheated on his taxes?

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Re: High commission for fundraisers
« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2015, 12:53:52 PM »
Someone's views of morally depraved can start and end at various points.
Some say noone is and some say even speeding ticket guy is.

I'm somewhere in the middle, although my views aren't being discussed, rather the right to think something.

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Re: High commission for fundraisers
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2015, 12:59:21 PM »
So you probably wouldn't do business with someone who was gay or take a loan from that person, or allow your elderly mother to be helped cross the street by someone who was gay, right?

Or perhaps, you would, which seems to imply your radar for "moral depravity" is only switched on when it doesn't suit you. How convenient.

What in the world does fundraising have to do with being gay?
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Re: High commission for fundraisers
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2015, 01:07:26 PM »
The issue in discussion is a moral one, end justifying the means etc.
The moral standing of the speaker is not irrelevant.

Just sayin'

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Re: High commission for fundraisers
« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2015, 01:09:44 PM »
Someone's views of morally depraved can start and end at various points.
Some say noone is and some say even speeding ticket guy is.

I'm somewhere in the middle, although my views aren't being discussed, rather the right to think something.
The homophobia kicks in when people consider being gay as more morally depraved than say cheating with a married woman....
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Re: High commission for fundraisers
« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2015, 01:15:23 PM »
The problem is when people consider being gay as more morally depraved than say cheating with a married woman....
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Re: High commission for fundraisers
« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2015, 01:20:59 PM »
The homophobia kicks in when people consider being gay as more morally depraved than say cheating with a married woman....
One is toavah one is not
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: High commission for fundraisers
« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2015, 01:25:38 PM »
One is toavah one is not
So substitute cheating with eating a non Kosher animal (Dvarim 14:3)...


ETA: never mind, see Yechezkel 22:11 regarding cheating...

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Re: High commission for fundraisers
« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2015, 01:27:03 PM »
I love how evrey thread goes of topic so fast...

Imho a fundraiser is part of an organizations expense, the way how the donor has to view it is that since there is someone reaching out to him there is an expense to the organization.

Finally, you are helping out giving another jew parnasa.

P.s. the organization CEO= no worse then fundraiser.
If u work for a living, why kill urself working?