Author Topic: hyatt chip and pin? (Read 4945 times)

myb821 · « **on:** May 22, 2012, 09:55:40 PM »

I thought i read somewhere that chase was offering the hyatt card with chip and pin but cant seem to find it. Did I imagine this?if not can someone direct me to that thread?

netzih · « **Reply #1 on:** May 22, 2012, 10:16:29 PM »

Quote from: myb821 on May 22, 2012, 09:55:40 PM

I thought i read somewhere that chase was offering the hyatt card with chip and pin but cant seem to find it. Did I imagine this?if not can someone direct me to that thread?

just checked the heart card does have a chip check chase.com/Hyatt

JEWDA · « **Reply #2 on:** May 22, 2012, 10:50:05 PM »

https://creditcards.chase.com/lp/hyatt/naep/?CELL=6C13

AsherO · « **Reply #3 on:** May 23, 2012, 02:00:50 AM »

Quote from: JEWDA on May 22, 2012, 10:50:05 PM

https://creditcards.chase.com/lp/hyatt/naep/?CELL=6C13

DDF Hyatt card link seems to be the same, no?

AJK · « **Reply #4 on:** May 23, 2012, 02:18:59 AM »

@OP -- beware that this card is NOT a chip & pin, it is a chip & sig. There's a difference.

For travel in the EU (e.g. Paris), you'll need the former, as the latter will not be sufficient to pay at kiosks, etc.

FYI - Chase does not offer any C&P cards at this time.

myb821 · « **Reply #5 on:** May 23, 2012, 08:30:59 AM »

Thanks

Dan · « **Reply #6 on:** July 09, 2012, 03:51:16 PM »

Quote from: AJK on May 23, 2012, 02:18:59 AM

@OP -- beware that this card is NOT a chip & pin, it is a chip & sig. There's a difference.

For travel in the EU (e.g. Paris), you'll need the former, as the latter will not be sufficient to pay at kiosks, etc.

FYI - Chase does not offer any C&P cards at this time.

At the Chase luncheon, both Gary and the Chase BA rep claimed that the statement bolded above is untrue.
Anyone have personal experience with a European kiosk and a Chase C&S card?

AJK · « **Reply #7 on:** July 09, 2012, 03:59:03 PM »

My feeling is that they're both mistaken, unfortunately, as the kiosks in the EU require an actual PIN to be entered at the time of purchase. Be interesting to hear otherwise though.

Dan · « **Reply #8 on:** July 09, 2012, 04:02:06 PM »

They both claimed that that's a common misconception.
Would love to hear from anyone about personal experience though (preferably from the past couple months)

gozalim · « **Reply #9 on:** July 09, 2012, 04:05:58 PM »

Quote from: Dan on July 09, 2012, 04:02:06 PM

They both claimed that that's a common misconception.
Would love to hear from anyone about personal experience though (preferably from the past couple months)

if the misconception spreads to the merchant than it may as well be real

AJK · « **Reply #10 on:** July 09, 2012, 04:07:39 PM »

Seems they're right after all!

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/18773459-post19.html

And this thread:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/credit-card-programs/1352097-chase-visa-chip-signature-usage-report-abroad.html

And this article:

http://travel.nytimes.com/2012/06/10/travel/money-tips-for-globe-trotters.html

Quote

As I later learned, even without a PIN, a chip-and-signature card will work at most automated kiosks around the world because a signature is not required for purchases under $50. And at payment terminals used by stores and restaurants, the chip essentially tells the machine, “This card doesn’t have a PIN, so spit out a receipt for the customer to sign.”

Dan · « **Reply #11 on:** July 09, 2012, 04:07:43 PM »

Quote from: gozalim on July 09, 2012, 04:05:58 PM

if the misconception spreads to the merchant than it may as well be real

Merchants can always do a mag swipe.

AJK · « **Reply #12 on:** July 09, 2012, 04:17:11 PM »

I'm glad you pointed that out... Not having a chip and signature/pin was quite annoying in Paris.

Dan · « **Reply #13 on:** July 09, 2012, 04:19:38 PM »

BTW if you have any C&S eligible card (BA, Hyatt, etc) you can just order a new card online and it will have the chip.

AJK · « **Reply #14 on:** July 09, 2012, 04:22:20 PM »

Quote from: Dan on July 09, 2012, 04:19:38 PM

BTW if you have any C&S eligible card (BA, Hyatt, etc) you can just order a new card online and it will have the chip.

... or one could just reapply for the Hyatt card and TOFTT to see if it can be churned

Dan · « **Reply #15 on:** July 09, 2012, 04:24:48 PM »

True, true.
Odds are with a new FFN that it can be.

ChAiM'l · « **Reply #16 on:** July 09, 2012, 04:26:48 PM »

Quote from: Dan on July 09, 2012, 04:07:43 PM

Merchants can always do a mag swipe.

Reminds me of the time I wanted to pay at a local pizza store with a US cc. The guy had no idea what to do with it...

LoLo · « **Reply #17 on:** July 28, 2015, 08:13:38 PM »

(Don't wanna open a new thread for this)

What chip and pin cards are on the market today besides for arrival+? (Obv. with no forex fees)

aradisc · « **Reply #18 on:** July 28, 2015, 08:50:03 PM »

Quote from: LoLo on July 28, 2015, 08:13:38 PM

(Don't wanna open a new thread for this)

What chip and pin cards are on the market today besides for arrival+? (Obv. with no forex fees)

Quite a few. See this spreadsheet, which may even be a bit out of date: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ani-u3tGk5hedGRvcE1ELVg5UmlGZk01SHZvTUMxdUE#gid=0

Basically, most chip cards now offer multiple levels of Cardholder Verification Methods (CVMs). Like the discussion above, if the preferred CVM is not available (usually Chip+Sig for US credit cards), it may fall back onto another method. And if the vendor has enabled it, it may still work with no CVM.

TimT · « **Reply #19 on:** July 28, 2015, 09:31:36 PM »

Quote from: LoLo on July 28, 2015, 08:13:38 PM

(Don't wanna open a new thread for this)

What chip and pin cards are on the market today besides for arrival+? (Obv. with no forex fees)

My new BRG is chip & pin