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What do you do?  Let $2 report on a single credit card.  All of your other cards should report $0, which means you must pay them to $0 before the statements close.

Why $2?  Because you want the lowest amount possible to report that is greater than $0.  $2 is the most reliable number to use that will generally report and not be credited to $0.

Does this work with any cards? Do not do this with Chase, Discover or charge cards.  Chase often updates mid cycle if you pay a balance to $0, leaving you with nothing reporting.  If you want to use Discover, you need to use $3 because they will credit $2 to $0.  Charge cards are counted much differently for utilization, and it varies by scoring model.

But MyFico and CreditKarma say that my utilization is 0%.  Credit Karma is a FAKO, and although even MF will give you this number as a percentage, it is calculated as a ratio by FICO.  $2 counts as usage.

What is the goal of the $2 trick?
  The goal is to get the most points possible out of FICO for the utilization portion of your scores AND to maintain it all the time.  The "all the time" part is the reason you don't use Chase cards.


More Detailed Explanation At CreditBoards

https://creditboards.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=544017

$2 Trick Will Not Work With A Charge Card https://creditboards.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=557648


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Re: $2 trick to increase FICO score.
« Reply #280 on: January 18, 2016, 10:51:44 AM »
its getting more complicated subtotal is there any deference between if the $2 is reported on chase vie non chase ?
what's the whole argument please clear the fog  :-[
Simply put, no. The only difference is that if you pay off that chase balance after the balance posts, chase will immediately update the CRA with that $0 balance, which will look like zero activity.
Who do you think you are fooling? You think you are going to pull a quick one on your Creator? Good luck with that.
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Re: $2 trick to increase FICO score.
« Reply #281 on: January 18, 2016, 12:11:43 PM »
its getting more complicated subtotal is there any deference between if the $2 is reported on chase vie non chase ?
what's the whole argument please clear the fog  :-[
I thought I was on the right track, but I guess I'm with you...

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Re: $2 trick to increase FICO score.
« Reply #282 on: January 18, 2016, 03:18:13 PM »
Simply put, no. The only difference is that if you pay off that chase balance after the balance posts, chase will immediately update the CRA with that $0 balance, which will look like zero activity.
Which will lower your scores.

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Re: $2 trick to increase FICO score.
« Reply #283 on: January 19, 2016, 12:24:54 AM »
Is it sufficient to have $2 report on an AU card?

Or must the card be primary?
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Re: $2 trick to increase FICO score.
« Reply #284 on: January 19, 2016, 12:43:01 AM »
Is it sufficient to have $2 report on an AU card?

Or must the card be primary?
Balance goes by account, not card.
Who do you think you are fooling? You think you are going to pull a quick one on your Creator? Good luck with that.
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Re: $2 trick to increase FICO score.
« Reply #285 on: January 19, 2016, 12:55:32 AM »
Balance goes by account, not card.

So you're saying it's sufficient.

If Card X reports with $2 balance, and Person B is an AU on Card X, Person B need not (and should not) have Card Y (which is a primary card for Person B) report $2.
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Re: $2 trick to increase FICO score.
« Reply #286 on: January 19, 2016, 01:00:15 AM »
So you're saying it's sufficient.

If Card X reports with $2 balance, and Person B is an AU on Card X, Person B need not (and should not) have Card Y (which is a primary card for Person B) report $2.
Oh, I misunderstood your question. I thought you were asking if the money has to be spent by the primary card as apposed to an AU card, if you're the primary cardholder. If the balance reports to your credit report, it shouldn't make a difference if it's on a primary or AU card as far as FICO is concerned, iinm, but I'm not qualified to answer that  authoritatively.
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Re: $2 trick to increase FICO score.
« Reply #287 on: January 19, 2016, 01:03:10 AM »
Please tell me you did not honestly think that I was asking if the actual $2 of spend had to be done by the primary as opposed to the AU.
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Re: $2 trick to increase FICO score.
« Reply #288 on: January 19, 2016, 01:06:10 AM »
Please tell me you did not honestly think that I was asking if the actual $2 of spend had to be done by the primary as opposed to the AU.
I wasn't thinking. My bad.
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Re: $2 trick to increase FICO score.
« Reply #289 on: January 22, 2016, 01:17:35 AM »
I paid my full balance, less $2, the day before statement closing. Now it closed with a $13 credit balance because I received my Visa Checkout offer credit...

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Re: $2 trick to increase FICO score.
« Reply #290 on: January 22, 2016, 01:41:17 AM »
Is it sufficient to have $2 report on an AU card?

Or must the card be primary?


One last question back on the $2 trick (sorry everyone!): If the card that I'm leaving $2 on is an Amex, and my wife is an AU on that account (thereby causing those $2 to show up on her report), is that enough for her to be successfully doing the $2 trick? Or should she have a card that she is a primary on with a $2 balance?
That should work, but it's always safer to control the reporting with AU cards. She should do that with her own card and you should use 1 that doesn't have any AUs. I can't recall if this varies by scoring models, but know it has been discussed on CB.

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Re: $2 trick to increase FICO score.
« Reply #291 on: January 22, 2016, 01:53:01 AM »
Thanks!
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Re: $2 trick to increase FICO score.
« Reply #292 on: January 22, 2016, 02:08:35 AM »
I paid my full balance, less $2, the day before statement closing. Now it closed with a $13 credit balance because I received my Visa Checkout offer credit...
That's why they said not to use a chase card...
Who do you think you are fooling? You think you are going to pull a quick one on your Creator? Good luck with that.
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Re: $2 trick to increase FICO score.
« Reply #293 on: January 22, 2016, 02:21:49 AM »
Please tell me you did not honestly think that I was asking if the actual $2 of spend had to be done by the primary as opposed to the AU.
Its well known FICO doesnt distinguish between AU vs primary balances for utilization  calculations , so why would it be different for the $2 trick?

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Re: $2 trick to increase FICO score.
« Reply #294 on: January 22, 2016, 02:24:00 AM »
Its well known FICO doesnt distinguish between AU vs primary balances for utilization  calculations , so why would it be different for the $2 trick?
Wasn't well known to me...

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Re: $2 trick to increase FICO score.
« Reply #295 on: January 22, 2016, 02:26:57 AM »
Wasn't well known to me...
then you should read how au cards work.

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Re: $2 trick to increase FICO score.
« Reply #296 on: January 22, 2016, 02:28:48 AM »
then you should read how au cards work.
Or just follow the forums once in a while. Btw, should I google or is there a better place to read up?

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Re: $2 trick to increase FICO score.
« Reply #297 on: January 22, 2016, 10:22:03 AM »
That's why they said not to use a chase card...
And how would it help if it was a different card? What I meant to say is that you can't control if there will be a credit the day of closing.

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Re: $2 trick to increase FICO score.
« Reply #298 on: January 22, 2016, 10:23:50 AM »
And how would it help if it was a different card? What I meant to say is that you can't control if there will be a credit the day of closing.
I was joking. There's a totally different reason why chase cards aren't recommender, discussed above. This credit happened to be for chase cards.
Who do you think you are fooling? You think you are going to pull a quick one on your Creator? Good luck with that.
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Re: $2 trick to increase FICO score.
« Reply #299 on: January 22, 2016, 10:43:42 AM »
I was joking. There's a totally different reason why chase cards aren't recommender, discussed above. This credit happened to be for chase cards.
You're right. But I thought the reasons for not using Chase can be worked around, and obviously I couldn't this time.
So basically everyone here following this rule never leaves a balance on their Chase cards?