Author Topic: KFI - Kashrus Watchdog in Israel  (Read 31730 times)

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Re: KFI - Kashrus Watchdog in Israel
« Reply #120 on: February 19, 2015, 06:26:56 PM »
They plan on sending someone down 1-3 times a week.
wow, that seems like a lot

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Re: KFI - Kashrus Watchdog in Israel
« Reply #121 on: February 19, 2015, 11:31:43 PM »
+1
I'm not sure why any store wouldnt want to  get a free service that brings in more business.
Unless they have something to hide...


wow, that seems like a lot
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Re: KFI - Kashrus Watchdog in Israel
« Reply #122 on: February 21, 2015, 04:58:36 PM »
wow, that seems like a lot
He's the only paid employee. They might have to hire more depending on how many restaurants they certify.
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Re: KFI - Kashrus Watchdog in Israel
« Reply #123 on: February 22, 2015, 07:35:09 AM »
Any possibility on starting s/t similar in the US?

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Re: KFI - Kashrus Watchdog in Israel
« Reply #124 on: February 22, 2015, 08:34:31 AM »
Any possibility on starting s/t similar in the US?
No chance. The hechsherim are much more powerful here. No chance they'd let something like this
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Re: KFI - Kashrus Watchdog in Israel
« Reply #125 on: February 22, 2015, 08:35:25 AM »
No chance. The hechsherim are much more powerful here. No chance they'd let something like this
But the consumers should demand it, unless the hechsherim have s/t to hide, and that makes us all suspicious.

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Re: KFI - Kashrus Watchdog in Israel
« Reply #126 on: February 22, 2015, 08:37:10 AM »
But the consumers should demand it, unless the hechsherim have s/t to hide, and that makes us all suspicious.
Or they don't believe that some other organization has any standards or anything to add.
And the consumers don't believe it's necessary because the hechsherim have done a much better job of engendering trust
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Re: KFI - Kashrus Watchdog in Israel
« Reply #127 on: February 22, 2015, 08:39:18 AM »
Or they don't believe that some other organization has any standards or anything to add.
And the consumers don't believe it's necessary because the hechsherim have done a much better job of engendering trust
Dunno, I've heard of ppl who try not to rely on the OU when eating out in the US.
But I can see your point.

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Re: KFI - Kashrus Watchdog in Israel
« Reply #128 on: February 22, 2015, 09:31:46 AM »
Dunno, I've heard of ppl who try not to rely on the OU when eating out in the US.
Which I assume is just politics.
I can understand if you don't want to eat OU because of certain psakim they have (good luck in America, as almost every heimeshe hechsher relies on them for the core ingredients. And sometimes more than that.)
But from what I've seen personally, their actual hashgacha s excellent
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Re: KFI - Kashrus Watchdog in Israel
« Reply #129 on: February 22, 2015, 09:33:07 AM »
Which I assume is just politics.
I can understand if you don't want to eat OU because of certain psakim they have (good luck in America, as almost every heimeshe hechsher relies on them for the core ingredients. And sometimes more than that.)
But from what I've seen personally, their actual hashgacha s excellent

Thx, good to know.
In Israel, can I assume the same? Or do they rely on different psaks?

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Re: KFI - Kashrus Watchdog in Israel
« Reply #130 on: February 22, 2015, 09:34:20 AM »
Thx, good to know.
In Israel, can I assume the same? Or do they rely on different psaks?
I know nothing about OU Israel
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Re: KFI - Kashrus Watchdog in Israel
« Reply #131 on: February 22, 2015, 09:36:29 AM »
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: KFI - Kashrus Watchdog in Israel
« Reply #132 on: February 22, 2015, 09:40:08 AM »
Thx, good to know.
In Israel, can I assume the same? Or do they rely on different psaks?

From what I understand,  OU Israel is under different management.  That means potentially different psak ( there are sheilos here thay have no relevance in the US and therefore were never asked there) and different standards of oversight.   

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Re: KFI - Kashrus Watchdog in Israel
« Reply #133 on: February 22, 2015, 09:40:37 AM »
From what I understand,  OU Israel is under different management.  That means potentially different psak ( there are sheilos here thay have no relevance in the US and therefore were never asked there) and different standards of oversight.


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Re: KFI - Kashrus Watchdog in Israel
« Reply #134 on: February 22, 2015, 09:44:34 AM »
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The kashrus standards of products, food service establishments and Shechita are the same in Israel as they are in America and the rest of the world. In general, all halachic standards and policy decisions of any OU supervision are established by the OU Poskim and Rabbinic staff in our New York central office. Though the OU employs staff members in Israel to oversee the kashrus supervision, Poskim and Rabbinic Coordinators from the New York office travel to Israel frequently to review the operation on location and confirm that the supervision meets OU standards.

I posted before I saw this.

That notwithstanding, I  know people who are well informed and would not agree with this in it's entirety.