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Re: KFI - Kashrus Watchdog in Israel
« Reply #320 on: October 13, 2015, 11:27:54 AM »
Is having more places to eat in a restaurant for the sake of kashrus or for the sake of taavos?

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Re: KFI - Kashrus Watchdog in Israel
« Reply #321 on: October 13, 2015, 11:29:50 AM »
I am not saying that it is a bad thing, but I wouldn't call that a sacrifice for kashrus.
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Re: KFI - Kashrus Watchdog in Israel
« Reply #322 on: October 13, 2015, 11:36:31 AM »

Is having more places to eat in a restaurant for the sake of kashrus or for the sake of taavos?
It's for the sake of Americans who come to EY and see some Hebrew writing that says badat"z and a guy with a beard and end up eating in places they shouldn't...

Can't tell you how many conversations I've had in just over a year that are shocking.

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Re: KFI - Kashrus Watchdog in Israel
« Reply #323 on: October 13, 2015, 11:38:51 AM »
Is having more places to eat in a restaurant for the sake of kashrus or for the sake of taavos?
more is a relative term. how many restaurants would you consider being for the sake of taavos

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Re: KFI - Kashrus Watchdog in Israel
« Reply #324 on: October 13, 2015, 11:58:03 AM »
I would say that anything more than the basic takeout/fast food and the like for when someone can't cook/make shabbos is a luxury.

Simply-a luxury restaurant is exactly that-a luxury.

I understand the point in their existence and do not mean to say that going to one make one a baal taava, but to make it a chov kadosh is ridiculous.

Question: If the aforementioned restaurants were 1000% kashrus compliant but unprofitable and about to close would you consider giving maaser money to the owner "for the sake of kashrus" to help him stay open so that there should be more restaurant options available.
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Re: KFI - Kashrus Watchdog in Israel
« Reply #325 on: October 14, 2015, 11:46:01 AM »
Wrong. Besides agudahs mashgiach R Weiner has and pays another mashgiach nothing to do with the restaurant.
For the sake of clarity, Rabbi Weiner's son was the Mashgiach there together with Aguda's Mashgiach temporarily over yom tov. (The restaurant paid his salary, not his father) However now Rabbi Weiner's permanent Mashgiach is the only Mashgiach there, and is being paid by the restaurant through Rabbi Weiner.
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Re: KFI - Kashrus Watchdog in Israel
« Reply #326 on: October 14, 2015, 11:48:55 AM »
I would say that anything more than the basic takeout/fast food and the like for when someone can't cook/make shabbos is a luxury.

Simply-a luxury restaurant is exactly that-a luxury.

I understand the point in their existence and do not mean to say that going to one make one a baal taava, but to make it a chov kadosh is ridiculous.

Question: If the aforementioned restaurants were 1000% kashrus compliant but unprofitable and about to close would you consider giving maaser money to the owner "for the sake of kashrus" to help him stay open so that there should be more restaurant options available.
I believe the point is for the many people who eat there (as well as other places...) and do not realize there are major Kashrus problems.

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Re: KFI - Kashrus Watchdog in Israel
« Reply #327 on: October 14, 2015, 12:36:03 PM »
For the sake of clarity, Rabbi Weiner's son was the Mashgiach there together with Aguda's Mashgiach temporarily over yom tov. (The restaurant paid his salary, not his father) However now Rabbi Weiner's permanent Mashgiach is the only Mashgiach there, and is being paid by the restaurant through Rabbi Weiner.

So now this has become a full fledged hechsher. Anyone surprised?
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Re: KFI - Kashrus Watchdog in Israel
« Reply #328 on: October 14, 2015, 12:39:47 PM »
So now this has become a full fledged hechsher. Anyone surprised?
Well not exactly, the Hashgacha stays the same. Just that There's a competent Mashgiach now That's it. And besides, it has only come to this because they tried keeping the status quo, and realized that they are just completely unreliable, but this was not the intention.

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Re: KFI - Kashrus Watchdog in Israel
« Reply #329 on: October 15, 2015, 12:12:00 AM »
So now this has become a full fledged hechsher. Anyone surprised?
no  its like that mashgiach works for the aguda

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Re: KFI - Kashrus Watchdog in Israel
« Reply #330 on: November 19, 2015, 05:40:56 AM »
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Re: KFI - Kashrus Watchdog in Israel
« Reply #331 on: November 19, 2015, 05:47:56 AM »
:D
is that officially KFI or a separate thing?

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Re: KFI - Kashrus Watchdog in Israel
« Reply #332 on: November 19, 2015, 05:52:43 AM »
is that officially KFI or a separate thing?
I assume separate if it's not on their letterhead. But it's a little meinyaan linyan
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Re: KFI - Kashrus Watchdog in Israel
« Reply #333 on: November 19, 2015, 07:08:45 AM »
is that officially KFI or a separate thing?
KFI is History! This is Rabbi Weiners doing. (with Rabbi Kubers backing)

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Re: KFI - Kashrus Watchdog in Israel
« Reply #334 on: November 19, 2015, 07:13:33 AM »
KFI is History!
does R Weiner know this?

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Re: KFI - Kashrus Watchdog in Israel
« Reply #335 on: November 19, 2015, 07:14:40 AM »
does R Weiner know this?
Well, he was the one that told me this. So I should hope so.

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Re: KFI - Kashrus Watchdog in Israel
« Reply #336 on: January 06, 2019, 10:25:26 PM »
Well, he was the one that told me this. So I should hope so.
is there a current equivalent to KFI?
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Re: KFI - Kashrus Watchdog in Israel
« Reply #337 on: January 06, 2019, 11:22:01 PM »
R' Weiner presented at the last AKO vaadim conference under the name ZNT Kashrus.

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Re: KFI - Kashrus Watchdog in Israel
« Reply #338 on: January 07, 2019, 02:33:40 AM »
R' Weiner presented at the last AKO vaadim conference under the name ZNT Kashrus.
Well that's the hechser he currently leads. Has a couple restaurants under his teuda.

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Re: KFI - Kashrus Watchdog in Israel
« Reply #339 on: January 07, 2019, 03:11:47 AM »
Well that's the hechser he currently leads. Has a couple restaurants under his teuda.
Is his organization a "hechsher", or a "haskomah"?
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