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Re: Consumer Advocate Attacks Credit Card/Points Blogs
« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2015, 10:43:07 AM »
The FACT is that DDMS is FULL of stuff that I'm pretty sure Dan doesn't make a cent on.

It's also full of things he does make money on. Not just money but his living. What's your point?

And does Capital One not have an affiliate program?

I don't know actually. Do you? BTW having a cc issuer having an affiliate program doesn't mean they would approve every blogger.

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Re: Consumer Advocate Attacks Credit Card/Points Blogs
« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2015, 10:43:45 AM »


The FACT is that DDMS is FULL of stuff that I'm pretty sure Dan doesn't make a cent on.  And does Capital One not have an affiliate program?

The reality is not like you say.
And if not for crapitol one being as bad as they are, I'm sure they would be posted. There is only so much you can pass of as a good deal

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Re: Consumer Advocate Attacks Credit Card/Points Blogs
« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2015, 10:44:58 AM »

The reality is not like you say.
And if not for crapitol one being as bad as they are, I'm sure they would be posted. There is only so much you can pass of as a good deal
Nah, some bloggers push the Disney card ;)

There are many, many cards I turned down from promoting.
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Re: Consumer Advocate Attacks Credit Card/Points Blogs
« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2015, 10:45:10 AM »
They do.

Regardless, what happened to personal responsibility?
It's a bloggers fault if you MS and don't pay your bills?

Exactly, this is the real problem with his stupid post.

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Re: Consumer Advocate Attacks Credit Card/Points Blogs
« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2015, 10:45:10 AM »
The FACT is that DDMS is FULL of stuff that I'm pretty sure Dan doesn't make a cent on.  And does Capital One not have an affiliate program?
"Fact" and "pretty sure" don't mix well, though that's not the point of this conversation

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Re: Consumer Advocate Attacks Credit Card/Points Blogs
« Reply #25 on: February 05, 2015, 10:46:27 AM »
Nah, some bloggers push the Disney card ;)

There are many, many cards I turned down from promoting.

But if the price were right.. you would be crazy to turn it down. Also, picking and choosing is what built your rep as trustworthy which in turn makes you more revenue :). I'm just saying we can't pretend money isn't a factor in how you blog, that would be ridiculous, and I'm only accusing you of being a savvy, rational human being.

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Re: Consumer Advocate Attacks Credit Card/Points Blogs
« Reply #26 on: February 05, 2015, 10:46:31 AM »
Same guy who advises cutting up your mileage earning credit card: http://travel.nationalgeographic.com/travel/traveler-magazine/the-insider/loyalty-programs/

Who advises not collecting miles as they're just a scam: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/20121119145727-332179-frequent-flier-programs-are-a-scam-here-s-why-you-should-quit-yours-now

And who decries lie-flat seats as class-warfare: http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/flights/2014/02/02/travelers-might-have-lost-the-class-war/5174745/

Who wants government regulation of mileage programs: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/christopher-elliott/is-it-time-to-regulate-fr_b_3362291.html

Who thinks airline change fees spread ebola: http://elliott.org/the-navigator/shortsighted-airline-refund-policies-lead-outbreak/ 

Who thinks taxpayers subsidize business travelers: http://consumertraveler.com/columns/travel-like-a-pro/whos-subsidizing-those-first-class-tickets-you/

Who loves earning miles on spend instead of distance: http://elliott.org/blog/love-deltas-new-loyalty-program-youll-probably-hate/

And who asked his readers if he should get into the CC affiliate business: http://elliott.org/blog/now/

OK, so he really really doesn't like us!!

Seems like he's all kinds of special! It's amazing what liberalism can do to the human brain!
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Re: Consumer Advocate Attacks Credit Card/Points Blogs
« Reply #27 on: February 05, 2015, 10:46:53 AM »
Nah, some bloggers push the Disney card ;)

There are many, many cards I turned down from promoting.
One of the reasons I stick with this blog (usually )

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Re: Consumer Advocate Attacks Credit Card/Points Blogs
« Reply #28 on: February 05, 2015, 10:49:03 AM »
I'm just saying we can't pretend money isn't a factor in how you blog,

Nor could we pretend it isn't a factor in how/why we all do our jobs!
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Re: Consumer Advocate Attacks Credit Card/Points Blogs
« Reply #29 on: February 05, 2015, 10:50:26 AM »
Nor could we pretend it isn't a factor in how/why we all do our jobs!

Or how/why we do EVERYTHING!

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Re: Consumer Advocate Attacks Credit Card/Points Blogs
« Reply #30 on: February 05, 2015, 10:51:10 AM »
But if the price were right.. you would be crazy to turn it down. Also, picking and choosing is what built your rep as trustworthy which in turn makes you more revenue :). I'm just saying we can't pretend money isn't a factor in how you blog, that would be ridiculous, and I'm only accusing you of being a savvy, rational human being.
False.
I've been offered paid placements and insane commissions for some cards that I've turned down.
If I can't justify getting the card myself I won't write about it, period.

Yes, of course revenue influences decisions, as it should for any business.  But there are fine lines!
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Re: Consumer Advocate Attacks Credit Card/Points Blogs
« Reply #31 on: February 05, 2015, 10:54:56 AM »
False.
I've been offered paid placements and insane commissions for some cards that I've turned down.
If I can't justify getting the card myself I won't write about it, period.

I do trust you on the cards piece, because teaching us how to manage our wallets is your core competency. If it's not in your short term interest to turn it down, my guess is it's in your long term interest (in your mind). It's either that or irrational Dan you choose :).

And my daily "amazon gold deal of the day" texts and deals to save a a couple dollars on 100 bags of popcorn or a package of diapers, all from amazon hmm, is a reminder that you don't apply that standard (only post about it if it's good enough for me) to all deals that you do for cards.

And I applaud you for it!

Yes, of course revenue influences decisions, as it should for any business.  But there are fine lines!
Thanks for admitting it. (seriously)

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Re: Consumer Advocate Attacks Credit Card/Points Blogs
« Reply #32 on: February 05, 2015, 10:55:17 AM »
Or how/why we do EVERYTHING!

+1 We may not like it, but money makes the world go round!
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Re: Consumer Advocate Attacks Credit Card/Points Blogs
« Reply #33 on: February 05, 2015, 11:01:41 AM »
False.
I've been offered paid placements and insane commissions for some cards that I've turned down.

Although now I'm very curious. Guessing it was for value cards with bad/no reward programs?

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Re: Consumer Advocate Attacks Credit Card/Points Blogs
« Reply #34 on: February 05, 2015, 11:02:25 AM »
Although now I'm very curious. Guessing it was for value cards with bad/no reward programs?
Visa Black, Disney, etc.
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Re: Consumer Advocate Attacks Credit Card/Points Blogs
« Reply #35 on: February 05, 2015, 12:09:58 PM »
Nah, some bloggers push the Disney card ;)

There are many, many cards I turned down from promoting.

IMO there are also things that you dont talk about because you dont get affiliate revenue from them, and because of that I do trust this blog less. Im not saying you are evil and pushing useless CC down your readers' throats but less transparency = less trust 


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Re: Consumer Advocate Attacks Credit Card/Points Blogs
« Reply #36 on: February 05, 2015, 12:13:24 PM »
"Odds are you won't be able to redeem the points the way you want to."
IME he is right sorry to say.
I just found a new supply of forks!

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Re: Consumer Advocate Attacks Credit Card/Points Blogs
« Reply #37 on: February 05, 2015, 12:15:28 PM »
IMO there are also things that you dont talk about because you dont get affiliate revenue from them, and because of that I do trust this blog less. Im not saying you are evil and pushing useless CC down your readers' throats but less transparency = less trust
Depends what.

I didn't make a dime of the Exec 100K/75K cards but covered them more than any other blog.

End of the day, every business is going to push what pays the bills.  The key for any blogger is finding the right balance.
Difference here is that there's DDF where you can talk about everything as opposed to blogs without a forum for that.
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Re: Consumer Advocate Attacks Credit Card/Points Blogs
« Reply #38 on: February 05, 2015, 12:15:35 PM »
IME he is right sorry to say.
You just post it in the appropriate thread & within minutes the pro's map it out for you.

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Re: Consumer Advocate Attacks Credit Card/Points Blogs
« Reply #39 on: February 05, 2015, 12:20:45 PM »
Depends what.

I didn't make a dime of the Exec 100K/75K cards but covered them more than any other blog.

End of the day, every business is going to push what pays the bills.  The key for any blogger is finding the right balance.
Difference here is that there's DDF where you can talk about everything as opposed to blogs without a forum for that.

Can't talk about CB portals which can make a big difference in certain cases, like when Staples first introduced  $200 VGCs on their website