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Re: Consumer Advocate Attacks Credit Card/Points Blogs
« Reply #45 on: February 05, 2015, 12:32:42 PM »
I see many people here are extremely delusional about Dan and his site. I too benefit from it but I don't think for a second that Dan is in this for me. He's in it for himself, to make money. Frum yidden in general seem to have a very Utopian view of their dealings with other frum yidden, which explains why so many get scammed by their friends, neighbors, and community members. Whenever I see commnets on the site lauding Dan (like Dan's the Man) and gushing over him and all he does, I laugh at peoples' naivete.

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Re: Consumer Advocate Attacks Credit Card/Points Blogs
« Reply #46 on: February 05, 2015, 12:35:12 PM »
Nor can you on other deal forums like SD.

Ultimately that undermines the entire business model.  So you have to make the choice, do you want the business to exist or not?

Is the service provided by the business worth "paying" for? Or is it always going to be expected for free?
I dont want this to sound like a personal attack but in contrast many bloggers did talk about the staples deal including some full time bloggers, that make their living as bloggers.

this is your business and you'll run it how you see fit, and I have no problems with that but i do trust you less because you aren't as transparent as other blogs.

A question to you. is DDf a deals forum like SD or a discussion forum like FT ( that does allow discussion of CB portals) ?

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Re: Consumer Advocate Attacks Credit Card/Points Blogs
« Reply #47 on: February 05, 2015, 12:36:32 PM »
I see many people here are extremely delusional about Dan and his site. I too benefit from it but I don't think for a second that Dan is in this for me. He's in it for himself, to make money. Frum yidden in general seem to have a very Utopian view of their dealings with other frum yidden, which explains why so many get scammed by their friends, neighbors, and community members. Whenever I see commnets on the site lauding Dan (like Dan's the Man) and gushing over him and all he does, I laugh at peoples' naivete.

its all in the title Dan's deals

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Re: Consumer Advocate Attacks Credit Card/Points Blogs
« Reply #48 on: February 05, 2015, 12:41:41 PM »
I see many people here are extremely delusional about Dan and his site. I too benefit from it but I don't think for a second that Dan is in this for me. He's in it for himself, to make money. Frum yidden in general seem to have a very Utopian view of their dealings with other frum yidden, which explains why so many get scammed by their friends, neighbors, and community members. Whenever I see commnets on the site lauding Dan (like Dan's the Man) and gushing over him and all he does, I laugh at peoples' naivete.
-1 while what you are saying is true just because Dan makes money off of it is not a reason not to appreciate it and I am very thankful to Dan even though I know he does it to make an honest living
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Consumer Advocate Attacks Credit Card/Points Blogs
« Reply #49 on: February 05, 2015, 12:43:09 PM »
I see many people here are extremely delusional about Dan and his site. I too benefit from it but I don't think for a second that Dan is in this for me. He's in it for himself, to make money. Frum yidden in general seem to have a very Utopian view of their dealings with other frum yidden, which explains why so many get scammed by their friends, neighbors, and community members. Whenever I see commnets on the site lauding Dan (like Dan's the Man) and gushing over him and all he does, I laugh at peoples' naivete.
To be fair, it wasn't a business for the first several years nor was it intended to be. It turned into one because the traffic allowed it to become one.

I don't think people think DD is a tzedaka org.  Rather they appreciate what the business has to offer and what they've gotten out of it.
Do people think Steve Jobs made products just to benefits others?  And yet people still loved what he did for them. Why is that a contradiction?

I dont want this to sound like a personal attack but in contrast many bloggers did talk about the staples deal including some full time bloggers, that make their living as bloggers.

this is your business and you'll run it how you see fit, and I have no problems with that but i do trust you less because you aren't as transparent as other blogs.

A question to you. is DDf a deals forum like SD or a discussion forum like FT ( that does allow discussion of CB portals) ?
CC rev is fickle.
Most other bloggers started only after it came around and many have quit blogging since losing it.

I don't know of any other bloggers that straddle the travel and deal space, but I rely on revenue from both sides to make this work.  Other deal blogs don't tell you every time to go do CB because that would put themselves out of business.

If that makes what I have to say untrustworthy then c'est la vie.
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Re: Consumer Advocate Attacks Credit Card/Points Blogs
« Reply #50 on: February 05, 2015, 12:44:00 PM »
Depends what.

I didn't make a dime of the Exec 100K/75K cards but covered them more than any other blog.

End of the day, every business is going to push what pays the bills.  The key for any blogger is finding the right balance.
Difference here is that there's DDF where you can talk about everything as opposed to blogs without a forum for that.
while we are on the topic, is there any chance you would say why the ritz card did not make ddms. is it not as good as it seems?

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Re: Consumer Advocate Attacks Credit Card/Points Blogs
« Reply #51 on: February 05, 2015, 12:46:15 PM »
while we are on the topic, is there any chance you would say why the ritz card did not make ddms. is it not as good as it seems?
To be honest I've never opened a Marriott cc and haven't look into it.  I find other currencies are a better use of my pulls.

Regardless, I'm far from perfect. I'll be the first to admit that.
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Re: Consumer Advocate Attacks Credit Card/Points Blogs
« Reply #52 on: February 05, 2015, 12:52:07 PM »


A question to you. is DDf a deals forum like SD or a discussion forum like FT ( that does allow discussion of CB portals) ?
i like the description that another blogger gave dansdeals "A Jewish guy from Cleveland who has developed a fantastic resource and community around deals. Almost always adds value to his posts which, bizarrely, do not feel like pure marketing pitches. Nice discussion forums too."

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Re: Consumer Advocate Attacks Credit Card/Points Blogs
« Reply #53 on: February 05, 2015, 12:52:56 PM »
To be fair, it wasn't a business for the first several years nor was it intended to be. It turned into one because the traffic allowed it to become one.

I don't think people think DD is a tzedaka org.  Rather they appreciate what the business has to offer and what they've gotten out of it.
Do people think Steve Jobs made products just to benefits others?  And yet people still loved what he did for them. Why is that a contradiction?

It's a contradiction because nobody has deep personal appreciation towards Steve Jobs for what he produced. Nobody normal would go over him to thank him for saving his time and making him more productive as a result of the iPhone, for allowing him to take great pictures on through the iPhone, and for speeding up his old computer though his Mac. We can appreciate what he did and how he made things better for us without a deep personal appreciation because that's what business is-I get the iPhone, he gets the money, and we're both happy because we both did the other a favor. Therefore, the ones who use your site should appreciate your services but to applaud your efforts on their behalf is absurd. You're in this for yourself the way every other worker in very other industry is.

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« Reply #54 on: February 05, 2015, 12:54:06 PM »
It's a contradiction because nobody has deep personal appreciation towards Steve Jobs for what he produced. Nobody normal would go over him to thank him for saving his time and making him more productive as a result of the iPhone,
Wow.
I couldn't disagree more what that.

My hakaras hatov doesn't end just because I paid for something.
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Re: Consumer Advocate Attacks Credit Card/Points Blogs
« Reply #55 on: February 05, 2015, 12:55:12 PM »
To be honest I've never opened a Marriott cc and haven't look into it.  I find other currencies are a better use of my pulls.

Regardless, I'm far from perfect. I'll be the first to admit that.
??? 140 Ritz is worth about 70k UA that make this card better then any other UA signup bonus and the $300 credit makes up the annual fee even if you dont close the card to get annual fee back

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Re: Consumer Advocate Attacks Credit Card/Points Blogs
« Reply #56 on: February 05, 2015, 12:57:23 PM »
??? 140 Ritz is worth about 70k UA that make this card better then any other UA signup bonus and the $300 credit makes up the annual fee even if you dont close the card to get annual fee back
do you really think he didnt read the ritz thread. im pretty sure hes aware  ;)

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« Reply #57 on: February 05, 2015, 12:58:27 PM »
??? 140 Ritz is worth about 70k UA that make this card better then any other UA signup bonus and the $300 credit makes up the annual fee even if you dont close the card to get annual fee back
Like I said, I don't follow the Marriott program at all and I write about what I know.
Does 140K Marriott really become 70K UA?

do you really think he didnt read the ritz thread. im pretty sure hes aware  ;)
To be honest, I haven't.
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Re: Consumer Advocate Attacks Credit Card/Points Blogs
« Reply #58 on: February 05, 2015, 01:04:59 PM »
To be fair, it wasn't a business for the first several years nor was it intended to be. It turned into one because the traffic allowed it to become one.

I don't think people think DD is a tzedaka org.  Rather they appreciate what the business has to offer and what they've gotten out of it.
Do people think Steve Jobs made products just to benefits others?  And yet people still loved what he did for them. Why is that a contradiction?
CC rev is fickle.
Most other bloggers started only after it came around and many have quit blogging since losing it.

I don't know of any other bloggers that straddle the travel and deal space, but I rely on revenue from both sides to make this work.  Other deal blogs don't tell you every time to go do CB because that would put themselves out of business.

If that makes what I have to say untrustworthy then c'est la vie.

its not that I think you are untrustworthy I dont think you are out to deceive your readers  but there is quality information out there that you dont write about, and their are mediocre deals that you do write about. I cant help but feels that those decisions are driven by what makes you money and what doesnt. When I make a decision I try to do it on what is best for me, and I understand what you post on the MS isn't necessarily whats best for me.

I think that if on MS deals you had a line like " dont forget to use your favorite portal" many people would still use your affiliate links, but that falls under the category of your business


based on some of the comment on the MS posts some people do think that DD is a tzadaka org

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Re: Consumer Advocate Attacks Credit Card/Points Blogs
« Reply #59 on: February 05, 2015, 01:05:05 PM »
I see many people here are extremely delusional about Dan and his site. I too benefit from it but I don't think for a second that Dan is in this for me. He's in it for himself, to make money. Frum yidden in general seem to have a very Utopian view of their dealings with other frum yidden, which explains why so many get scammed by their friends, neighbors, and community members. Whenever I see commnets on the site lauding Dan (like Dan's the Man) and gushing over him and all he does, I laugh at peoples' naivete.
Dan started this thing as a hobby while he was in yeshiva.

The traffic allowed him to make some money on it.

Since he spends all his time working on this, should he not be able to make a living?

I know that even if Dan had a "real job" he would still contribute as much as he can on his blog.

Believe it or not, I know for a fact that Dan likes helping people get good deals, not crap, and that's how this whole thing started.
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