Consumer Advocate Attacks Credit Card/Points Blogs

[Achas Veachas]

I hate to change the subject from this tachlisdik conversation, but I'd just like to remind the choshuva oilam how to spell the word "referral".

Thanks in advance

There's a grammar thread for that

[Matovu]

CS1 said it well.

[incendia]

I don't read him religiously.

The few posts I clicked on from TBB had errors in them. Usually when he's posting crowd-sourced info it seemed like.
Same goes for several TIF posts I clicked on from TBB.

TBB?
TIF?

[Aj3042]

Wow.
I couldn't disagree more what that.

My hakaras hatov doesn't end just because I paid for something.

Really? You have hakaras hatov to Steve Jobs for making the iPhone? What about to Bill Gates for making Microsoft? And the Chinese workers making the plastic utensils you eat with you also have hakaras hatov too? That's ludicrous. There's an obvious difference between having hakaras hatov (read: to someone who did a favor for you) and appreciating a mutually beneficial business service (definitely not hakaras hatov).

[Matovu]

TBB?
TIF?

please google it
I once quoted from TBB and it got deleted in seconds... 

[clear thinker]

I hate to change the subject from this tachlisdik conversation, but I'd just like to remind the choshuva oilam how to spell the word "referral".

Thanks in advance

Lol

[Redbull3]

Really? You have hakaras hatov to Steve Jobs for making the iPhone? What about to Bill Gates for making Microsoft? And the Chinese workers making the plastic utensils you eat with you also have hakaras hatov too? That's ludicrous. There's an obvious difference between having hakaras hatov (read: to someone who did a favor for you) and appreciating a mutually beneficial business service (definitely not hakaras hatov).

If you restrict your hakaros hatov to "pure selfless giving" scenarios you will be dishing out very little of it. Not to get all philosophical but what makes something a favor? There's almost always something in it for the giver, even if it's just to feel better about themselves. imo!

[Aj3042]

..and, it addition to that, WE don't pay a dime, it's all free knowledge from Dan that gives us financial opportunities, financial savings, a place to network, and ways to get food recommendations and go to quality places for Kosher meals, convenient minyanim, and Shabbos-friendly spots all for FREE!  We have a basic teachers'/Rabbi/lower-end salary, and we can fly, vacation, hotel, and dine-out alongside many 5-Star families thanks to Dan!

And guess who else enabled that....Chase and AMEX. Do you have hakaras hatov for them too? Or are they just conducting their business for their own good and you're benefiting.
And don't tell me you do have hakaras hatov for them. When was the last time you consistently worked behind the back of a guy you ave a hakaras hatov to and milk from him hundreds of dollars of value of what is clearly not his intention to give to you in the way you're getting it (churning, MS, etc.)

[Dan]

TBB?
TIF?

it got deleted in seconds... 

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=25254.0

[Aj3042]

If you restrict your hakaros hatov to "pure selfless giving" scenarios you will be dishing out very little of it. Not to get all philosophical but what makes something a favor? There's almost always something in it for the giver, even if it's just to feel better about themselves. imo!

Another ludicrous claim. Whether or not anybody is ever 100% altruistic is as you say a philosophical question. What isn't philosophical is a basic distinction between a sale and a favor. If you'd permit yourself a bit of intellectual honesty you'd see that right away.

[Dan]

http://saverocity.com/pfdigest/another-darn-blogs-like-list/
"It’s not hard to find hand-wringing about bloggers selling out and prioritizing money over content. Dan’s Deals shows that that being commercial (and presumably profitable) isn’t ipso facto a bad thing. It’s interesting that while many people hate on certain other sites that shall remain nameless here, there aren’t too many who hate on Dan. He puts a lot of great deals and information out there, plus the forums there have some stuff you won’t find anywhere else on the interwebs."

Guess he'll have to change that if he visits this thread

[Malachi]

I'm shocked this thread hasn't been deleted yet. The Mercedes Benz card is a great card that almost never sees the light of day on the main site. Do I mind? No, this blog is a business. I would do the exact same thing and so would 98% of other people. 

[incendia]

please google it
I once quoted from TBB and it got deleted in seconds... 

I did google it
tbb get me results for Threading Building Blocks

and tif gets me results for Tiffany & co (currently trading at 88.25 down 0.17 for the day)

[Dan]

I did google it
tbb get me results for Threading Building Blocks

and tif gets me results for Tiffany & co (currently trading at 88.25 down 0.17 for the day)

Read the previous page again. I gave you the link.

[etech0]

I did google it
tbb get me results for Threading Building Blocks

+1

[CS1]

And guess who else enabled that....Chase and AMEX. Do you have hakaras hatov for them too? Or are they just conducting their business for their own good and you're benefiting.
And don't tell me you do have hakaras hatov for them. When was the last time you consistently worked behind the back of a guy you ave a hakaras hatov to and milk from him hundreds of dollars of value of what is clearly not his intention to give to you in the way you're getting it (churning, MS, etc.)

Good question: We're in chinuch during a big chunk of the day, I'm sure that there are parallels there. 
(we work hard so that our students benefit. It takes years and it benefits them and the financial office.

We do not reap financial rewards based on performance. We do the best we can in no pay/overtime and often 10-12 years later, the talmidim appreciate and have an inkling of what they've learned from us and from being in the classroom....) So, yes, we "worked behind the back of a guy you have a hakaras hatov to". So do many Shluchim --  All the time.

[Toasted]

There's an obvious difference between having hakaras hatov (read: to someone who did a favor for you) and appreciating a mutually beneficial business service (definitely not hakaras hatov).

And the 3rd category is people who tremendously benefit from a site at no cost and in return wickedly besmirch and accuse its owner. Please find your favorite blog and GO THERE.

[Dan]

Really? You have hakaras hatov to Steve Jobs for making the iPhone? What about to Bill Gates for making Microsoft? And the Chinese workers making the plastic utensils you eat with you also have hakaras hatov too? That's ludicrous. There's an obvious difference between having hakaras hatov (read: to someone who did a favor for you) and appreciating a mutually beneficial business service (definitely not hakaras hatov).

When a doctor heals me I have hakaras hatov.
When a teacher teaches me I have hakaras hatov.
When a business goes out of its way to accommodate a request of mine I have hakaras hatov.
When a waiter gives me good service I have hakaras hatov.
When my accountant does a good job on my taxes I have hakaras hatov.

The fact that all of those people are getting paid has nothing to do with it.  I mean that's really twisted.

[incendia]

Read the previous page again. I gave you the link.

I saw that thanks

[Aj3042]

And the 3rd category is people who tremendously benefit from a site at no cost and in return wickedly besmirch and accuse its owner. Please find your favorite blog and GO THERE.

This has nothing to do with besmirching. I am not speaking negatively of Dan nor of Chase or AMEX. All I'm saying is that they're all the same-providing a service that benefits others for their own gain. Though i admit Dan is probably a good deal more altruistic than Chase is, he still is just a businessman. if that's besmirching to you that's an issue. That's called reality.